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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    you wanted drones who do what they are told and when they become expendable they should see themselves out the door without any protest.
    It's funny you say drones when i can name the people that made doom and half life but I cant name anybody in the sea of moden devs. They're drones NOW. They were people then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    No, you're misrepresenting it.

    And Alex can get stuffed. A senior developer (who more than likely knew before all this), whose first response to this whole situation is to shame paying customers on Twitter while it's his colleagues sexually harassing other employees.
    Again you are misrepresenting what he said and are lying about what he is doing. Your silence and refusal to condemn the behavior that Alex called out is tells me you are OK with it. Your silence speaks volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Because of his resume, lol
    no no you don't get be bring nuance into this now. because no one here has argued you should just hire someone because of their race or ethnicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    Actually there's been multiple comments about how whenever someone makes accusations such as these they should be doubted and questioned.
    Erm.. why shouldn't they be? They should be doubted, questioned and forwarded (higher ups, authorities). I'm not going to just take someone's word for something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    It's funny you say drones when i can name the people that made doom and half life but I cant name anybody in the sea of moden devs. They're drones NOW. They were people then.
    man, it's almost like your problem is with the very nature of capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    no no you don't get be bring nuance into this now. because no one here has argued you should just hire someone because of their race or ethnicity.
    Except you, with your equity and aa talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magical Mudcrab View Post
    The hill you've opted to die on is a silly one. I explicitly said that people attacking Blizzard employees are in the wrong. The inference that should be drawn from that is an acknowledgement that some players are attacking individuals at the company and that I, strangely, consider it to be wrong. Weird how someone can acknowledge that there is some subset of players doing something wrong and simultaneously point at senior Blizzard staff (who likely knew about ongoing sexual misconduct but didn't give a shit until it became public) like Klontzas and say the comment about customers being part of the problem (which, for the record, was never about harassment of employees on social media) is stupid, especially when the relationship between Blizzard and its customers is purely transactional (i.e.: customers are paying Blizzard for ongoing development in a live service game). Again, because you seem to just constantly overlook it, the only problem that should exist is between Blizzard and its customers and it's on Blizzard to rectify the situation.

    Regarding not hiding behind their employees, really? Did you not read the statement Frances Townsend who called the lawsuit lies and tried to dismiss the allegations? Or the official statement supplied to Polygon that tried to use the suicide of an employee as a shield? Really?
    That is not hiding behind employees. That is you once again blatantly misrepresenting what they are saying and doing. Denying the specific charges against them is not in any way "hiding behind the employees".

    Since you are going to continue to lie and distort what they are saying and doing, we are done here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    man, it's almost like your problem is with the very nature of capitalism.
    REEEEEEEEE CAPTIALISM REEEEEEE.

    No, just corporatism. Capitalism gave us games in the first place. I am grateful to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Except you, with your equity and aa talk
    except you, who thinks a racially homogenous country by definition of its racial hegemony creates better content. okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Erm.. why shouldn't they be? They should be doubted, questioned and forwarded (higher ups, authorities). I'm not going to just take someone's word for something.
    Do you doubt when your friend tells you he got mugged or beaten up? Or any other fucking crime but sexual nature? I was raped in a particularly humiliating manner long time ago and after lengthy period of therapy I finally found courage to tell one person about it and first question was how did I get hard. So even if I'm really pasifist by nature, I would like to kick the teeth in of every twat who starts to question the victims, because they would 100% not do it if it were any other crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    REEEEEEEEE CAPTIALISM REEEEEEE.

    No, just corporatism. Capitalism gave us games in the first place. I am grateful to it.
    lol omg you are seriously crying about the outcomes that capitalism creates and saying it's not capitalism, I can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    Actually there's been multiple comments about how whenever someone makes accusations such as these they should be doubted and questioned. Which is extremely offensive and one of the most harmful things you can do to victims of sexual abuse. I cba shuffling through this pile of garbage again to find them tho, sorry.
    I know right? Imagine not believing all women by default, how offensive.
    It's not like liars and manipulators exist, right?
    Right, let's throw the presumption of innocence and investigation under the rule of law out the window, that's too """""""""""""offensive""""""""""""" a practice to keep.

    Let's just believe everyone. I'm sure nobody will try to make use of that for personal gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    That is not hiding behind employees. That is you once again blatantly misrepresenting what they are saying and doing. Denying the specific charges against them is not in any way "hiding behind the employees".

    Since you are going to continue to lie and distort what they are saying and doing, we are done here.
    Yeah, calling your employees liars to try and push the heat off yourself and onto them as well as trying to discredit the DFEH by using their employee's suicide is in no way trying to use your employees as a shield. You got me. Feel free to continue to support those practices while saying anyone who criticizes Blizzard's practices is OK with harassing its employees, even when you quote people explicitly saying that harassing the employees is wrong, it's a good look.
    Sylvanas didn't even win the popular vote, she was elected by an indirect election of representatives. #NotMyWarchief

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    except you, who thinks a racially homogenous country by definition of its racial hegemony creates better content. okay.
    It's not the race, it's the work culture and passion, something the west used to have. David whitaker's work on xenoblade x ost was excellent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    Do you doubt when your friend tells you he got mugged or beaten up? Or any other fucking crime but sexual nature? I was raped in a particularly humiliating manner long time ago and after lengthy period of therapy I finally found courage to tell one person about it and first question was how did I get hard. So even if I'm really pasifist by nature, I would like to kick the teeth in of every twat who starts to question the victims, because they would 100% not do it if it were any other crime.
    Friends, probably no. Should you doubt someone who stands to gain thousand if not tens of thousands of dollars in a lawsuit? Yes. Again this whole oh they are a victim and no human being would ever lie about something to get free money mentality is retarded.

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    New info the Cosby suuite Group.

    At this point they should burn the WoW IP down.

    There is no coming back from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    Do you doubt when your friend tells you he got mugged or beaten up?
    Yes. And then I would judge how believable their story was. But even if I believed them in the end, sure I would still doubt it at first to some degree. I'm not an idiot. People lie, even friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straga21 View Post
    Friends, probably no. Should you doubt someone who stands to gain thousand if not tens of thousands of dollars in a lawsuit? Yes. Again this whole oh they are a victim and no human being would ever lie about something to get free money mentality is retarded.
    Doubting one person is healthy.

    Doubting every single woman that spoke up so far, and some men, well, that is something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    Do you doubt when your friend tells you he got mugged or beaten up? Or any other fucking crime but sexual nature? I was raped in a particularly humiliating manner long time ago and after lengthy period of therapy I finally found courage to tell one person about it and first question was how did I get hard. So even if I'm really pasifist by nature, I would like to kick the teeth in of every twat who starts to question the victims, because they would 100% not do it if it were any other crime.
    Then you'd be wrong. I would 100% want any crime being brought up to be questioned and investigated, no matter their nature.
    You can't just take someone's word for granted and carry out sentence just from that, else you open society to unbelievable amounts of manipulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    lol omg you are seriously crying about the outcomes that capitalism creates and saying it's not capitalism, I can't.
    Yeah. Stupid ass socialists blame everything on capitalism itself rather tham corporations when my capitalist work place doesn't do anything bad and most individuals are capitalist. You mad i sold a vita game on ebay for 200 dollars last year?

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