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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Because of his resume, lol
    But as you said, the Japanese wouldn’t hire him because it’s ok for them to be racist.

    Also what if he was the one who decided on the gatcha system. Are you blindly hiring people just because they worked on a Japanese game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    It's not the race, it's the work culture and passion, something the west used to have. David whitaker's work on xenoblade x ost was excellent
    the passion needed to die from exhaustion while on the job. again you just want servants you can toss aside quietly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    It's not the race, it's the work culture and passion, something the west used to have. David whitaker's work on xenoblade x ost was excellent
    You could also point out the fact that it has been shown that more inclusive and diverse teams typically make better decisions and yield better results.
    Sylvanas didn't even win the popular vote, she was elected by an indirect election of representatives. #NotMyWarchief

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrollHunter3000 View Post
    If there is no equality of results, why is that? Either you believe one group is better than the other or you must accept there is an inequity in the process leading up to those results. Which is it?
    Or a mix of both. It needs to be studied case by case.
    I'm gonna give you an example: Most swimmers are whites, while most runners are black. And it's not a racism thing, it's because physically each one is better on each thing.
    Another example: the most dangerous and hard works are occupied by men. Are they women excluded from those jobs by their genitals? Or maybe because they require a level of resistance and strenght that most women can sustain (miners, fishermen, etc)
    Another one: most high executives are men, because the job requires time that most women don't want to sacrifice because that means they can't form a family and raise their children (men can have children at old age, but women are only fertile until certain age). We can talk about no job should mean to sacrifice your life and if there's too a predilection to pick men first, but as you see there are more factors.
    This happens too when the employer suspects that a woman could get pregnant, so she would have to leave to give birth. The solutions isn't to have a 50% quota, but to have both parents take FORCED paternity leave like some countries have.

    We shouldn't automatically imply that there's not equality of opportunity each time we don't see equiality of results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluvs View Post
    New info the Cosby suuite Group.

    At this point they should burn the WoW IP down.

    There is no coming back from this.
    The people invbolved in that are gone. Basically what you are asking for is all the innocent people to lose their jobs.

    They will come back. It will never be all the way back, will be very slowly, and a very bumpy ride, but they will come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimin View Post
    I know right? Imagine not believing all women by default, how offensive.
    It's not like liars and manipulators exist, right?
    Right, let's throw the presumption of innocence and investigation under the rule of law out the window, that's too """""""""""""offensive""""""""""""" a practice to keep.

    Let's just believe everyone. I'm sure nobody will try to make use of that for personal gain.
    Is a court case the only thing you’ll accept?

    Is bill cosby a rapist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimin View Post
    Then you'd be wrong. I would 100% want any crime being brought up to be questioned and investigated, no matter their nature.
    You can't just take someone's word for granted and carry out sentence just from that, else you open society to unbelievable amounts of manipulation.
    I didn't mean it shouldn't be investigated, of course it needs to be investigated. But we, as regular human beings should place trust into victims and their stories. These are not easy things to come forward with. The shame, confusion and even guilt are such dominant feelings when you're victim of these sorts of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Yeah. Stupid ass socialists blame everything on capitalism itself rather tham corporations when my capitalist work place doesn't do anything bad and most individuals are capitalist. You mad i sold a vita game on ebay for 200 dollars last year?
    LMAO I'm not the one who champions capitalism all while decrying the outcomes it creates. I have never spent $200 on any video game when I can pirate that shit lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluvs View Post
    Doubting one person is healthy.

    Doubting every single woman that spoke up so far, and some men, well, that is something else.
    They're both healthy.
    You doubt everyone involved. You investigate everything and everyone.
    Then, after you've ascertained the individual truth of each case, you dole out the sentence. But only then.

    The fact that it's one person claiming X or n+1 people claiming X doesn't mean the second isn't investigated just as throughly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluvs View Post
    Doubting one person is healthy.

    Doubting every single woman that spoke up so far, and some men, well, that is something else.
    It is not something else. If they bring proof on an individual level. I will believe those ones. If someone says oh yeah I was totally molested during a drunken work party 10 years ago, it was not consensual or anything like it totally happened and all the proof I have is that I am saying this. Now that we've got that out of the way I'd like my thousands of lawsuit dollars on my credit card by tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    But as you said, the Japanese wouldn’t hire him because it’s ok for them to be racist.

    Also what if he was the one who decided on the gatcha system. Are you blindly hiring people just because they worked on a Japanese game?
    They should, but they don't have to. And you really suggesting looking at a resume is blind, reallllllly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    But we, as regular human beings should place trust into victims and their stories.
    Why in the fuck?
    Some tell the truth, some lie. If you blindly believe everyone, then you're a fool.
    I have a bridge to sell you btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Is a court case the only thing you’ll accept?

    Is bill cosby a rapist?
    NO he is not. A sexual predator? Yes. A rapist, no because he currently has no rape conviction against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    LMAO I'm not the one who champions capitalism all while decrying the outcomes it creates. I have never spent $200 on any video game when I can pirate that shit lol.
    Yes i champion a system that has raised then poverty floor so high, we'd be kings hundreds of years ago. No I don't think it's perfect before you screech at me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Yeah. Stupid ass socialists blame everything on capitalism itself rather tham corporations when my capitalist work place doesn't do anything bad and most individuals are capitalist. You mad i sold a vita game on ebay for 200 dollars last year?
    While you can argue the details, corporations and corporativism are a direct consequence of capitalism. Free market and capitalism is at the core of many problems that we have today. E.G.: Insulin and big pharma in the US.

    Not here to argue which system is better because it's pointless, but capitalism comes with a lot of baggage and many problems.
    I don't want solutions. I want to be mad. - PoorlyDrawnlines

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    NO he is not. A sexual predator? Yes. A rapist, no because he currently has no rape conviction against him.
    You need a reality check. He is a rapist.

    I’m going to Godwin here: I guess hitler was innocent of genocide? He wasn’t convicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Is a court case the only thing you’ll accept?
    People are innocent until proven guilty.
    It's the standard I want for myself and thus I will defend it for anybody else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tooshie View Post
    I didn't mean it shouldn't be investigated, of course it needs to be investigated. But we, as regular human beings should place trust into victims and their stories. These are not easy things to come forward with. The shame, confusion and even guilt are such dominant feelings when you're victim of these sorts of things.
    I'm not gonna let compassion shroud my judgement. People lie all the time.
    I will not mistreat Jussiette Smollette and her story about being a victim of white Maga rape... but neither will I blindly trust this alleged victim by default before an investigation has taken place.

    Better risk being heartless than a manipulated tool and fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimin View Post
    They're both healthy.
    You doubt everyone involved. You investigate everything and everyone.
    Then, after you've ascertained the individual truth of each case, you dole out the sentence. But only then.

    The fact that it's one person claiming X or n+1 people claiming X doesn't mean the second isn't investigated just as throughly.
    You missed the part where the investigation already happened and there is plenty of proof. Sure they will have their day in court, but if a person is holding the murder weapon atop a bloody corpse and other 100 people said they watched him stab someone, don't be surprised if the court rules that he is a murderer.

    Being overly skeptical of everything is not a good thing, and contrary to popular belief, not a sign of intelligence either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Yes i champion a system that has raised then poverty floor so high, we'd be kings hundreds of years ago. No I don't think it's perfect before you screech at me
    a hundred years ago most people became homeless and lost their livelihoods because of capitalist greed. never at any point in time would you or I be "kings" in the capitalist system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluvs View Post
    While you can argue the details, corporations and corporativism are a direct consequence of capitalism. Free market and capitalism is at the core of many problems that we have today. E.G.: Insulin and big pharma in the US.

    Not here to argue which system is better because it's pointless, but capitalism comes with a lot of baggage and many problems.
    If there are 2 businesses, one goes full blizzard corporation and one is a humble ma and pa shop, you'd blame the system and not the people who chose to go full corporation? Lol

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