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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    For fuck's sake: He's on the line of texts that discuss bringing girls up to the suite, Afrasiabi saying he could marry multiples of them because he was from the Middle East and McCree telling Afrasiabi he misspelled 'fuck' (presumably joking about 'marriage'. You're going to argue that GC was too dumb to not know or understand what was going on?
    Why are you conflating bringing women to a hotel room and sexual harassment in the workplace? Of course GC almost certainly knew what was happening in the office, I'm not excusing him of anything. I'm just saying these particular images don't prove anything except he once posed with a pic of Bill Cosby and got drunk with the guys at Blizzcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Oh sorry, I thought this was in a group chat and not in a conference with all of them present, my bad. oh fucking wait.

    Also with all these sexual harassment accusations you'd think that in the age of smartphones there'd be at least a shred of evidence. Sorry, I don't buy allegations without evidence anymore, there's too many false accusations out there. Show me something concrete other than "penis havers bad! Believe the vagina havers!"
    Afrasiabi was literally sacked for it. Yet the rest somehow knew nothing about it.

    Yet here they are…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    How about guys just stop doing that to women they work with. Can men control themselves?
    Kk, as long as women are held to the exact same standard and also fired for making comments about their male co workers. Because clearly they can't control themselves either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    At best GC knew these guys were up to shit and did nothing, at worst he was actively part of the problem circle.
    Well yeah, I'm not denying that. I'm just saying these pics don't prove shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Afrasiabi was literally sacked for it. Yet the rest somehow knew nothing about it.

    Yet here they are…
    unless I'm missing something here, was it not for allegations?

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Show me something concrete other than "penis havers bad! Believe the vagina havers!"
    this is not what's happening at all... good lord.

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    I say it again: I am 50% sure that the worst of them are at the top of this. I think we will see more and more of those "heroes" fall in the next weeks.
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  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Yes, it's damning because there's a corporation involved. Beoynd that it's a normal day between "dudebro's", assuming there wasn't sexual harassment involved.
    You mean the same behaviour that has been brought to light to exist on a day-to-day business at work, and is being called out as 'frat boy culture' that enabled sexual harassment, abuse and gender discrimination?

    Context, my dudebro. Context.

    We're not talking about you and your friends when you were young. The situation is so far removed that you can't equate this as one and the same as your shootin the shit with your buddies. None of that lead to sexual harassment, abuse or discrimination did it? Think of how the situation changes if you were complicit in knowing a friend who was actively sexually abusive, and you were still hanging around with them and cheering em on for it. That's quite a difference don't you think?
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  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    People were making *millions* out his name, he was very well protected. That kind of thing is quite the incentive to make these kinds of things stay quiet and go away.

    It’s called abuse of power. And it happens a lot.
    Either way. The name Cosby was not associated with being a sexual predator back then. That's my whole point. How and why it wasn't is not important.

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    From the Kotaku article which clearly a lot of people haven't read:
    In one image procured by Kotaku, a group of women are sitting on a bed in the room with the Cosby portrait. One of the women appears to have a hand on another’s breast, which is cheered on by the men in the comments. The images procured by Kotaku, and two sources with knowledge of Afrasiabi’s alleged predatory behavior, Cosby’s reputation was apparently the point of why the group of men gathered around his picture in the photos.

    “It was such a boys club that creating something like the ‘Cosby Suite’ was seen as funny,” one source told Kotaku. “Only you could get an efficy laid, Alex [Afrasiabi],” reads one of the Facebook comments on the picture. “#CozApproved,” reads another written by Kosak.
    No, it wasn't about sex at all. How could anyone come to that conclusion.

    https://kotaku.com/inside-blizzard-d...=1627495648163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    Kk, as long as women are held to the exact same standard and also fired for making comments about their male co workers. Because clearly they can't control themselves either.
    Sure. But i'm sorry to tell you that's much rarer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVargK View Post
    Either way. The name Cosby was not associated with being a sexual predator back then. That's my whole point. How and why it wasn't is not important.
    If this were just about the suite name it'd be one thing. Honestly I think people are getting too wrapped up in the Cosby angle and missing the absolutely damning messages these guys were sending back and forth about the suite.
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  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon View Post
    It just keeps getting worse. Absolutely fuck Blizzard.
    I think at this point this is up there with some of the biggests PR disasters in gaming in a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Sure. But i'm sorry to tell you that's much rarer.
    pffffhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahha hahahhahah omfg hahahahhahahahahhahahha Either you don't have friends or you're not a girl holy shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    unless I'm missing something here, was it not for allegations?
    Allegations that were sufficiently backed to get him sacked. I’m quite sure if there wasn’t the evidence he could have claimed for wrongful dismissal. Seriously, sacking someone from a post like that requires pretty overwhelming evidence.

    That it didn’t go to trial was probably an agreement to protect the company’s reputation. You know, how they tried last week when they put out that statement denying everything. And have since kind of accepted it but individuals have made efforts to try to distance themselves personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    So I guess they will rename/remove that rare ghost crab in Vashj'ir also called Ghostcrawler?
    Good luck trying to remove Thrall from WoW's lore, as well as hundreds of Warcraft characters that are based on all the guard. Good thing Blizzard are good at retconning cos thats gonna be a doozy lol.

    Blizzard just need to end all their games and make new IP's their old ones are fucking dead.
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  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    For fuck's sake: He's on the line of texts that discuss bringing girls up to the suite, Afrasiabi saying he could marry multiples of them because he was from the Middle East and McCree telling Afrasiabi he misspelled 'fuck' (presumably joking about 'marriage'. You're going to argue that GC was too dumb to not know or understand what was going on?
    As douchey as that behavior is, none of it implies sexual harassment.

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    Found a new picture, this time with a bunch of Booze!

    In the OP.

    And, more tweets by hidden IDs. I wonder if they are some of the people from the Picture?!

    JFC dude how far down the rabbit hole are we going?!

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    No, it wasn't about sex at all. How could anyone come to that conclusion.
    So what if it was? How is sex a problem?

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