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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundering View Post
    Becouse people want Blizz to develop the game, and have ingame rewards for playing the game not just to open the wallet and get stuff....... omgod right....
    If you think there are new in-game rewards or that the game isn't developed then you are purposefully ignorant. The presence of for-cash rewards never stopped development in Vanilla in 2004, TBC in 2006, or WotLK in 2008. The "golden days" of WoW for many. Yet now you and others are going to cry how it is suddenly a problem.
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  2. #302
    So I get it - don't think it does much, but I get it. I also think the "so you remove this, but harassment is OK", is wide of the mark - can't this be part of a holistic change trying to remove toxicity from the game?

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Segus1992 View Post
    Eh, I understand the reason, but I also understand being upset about it being removed. Was it only removed from Classic?
    It's removed on the PTR. Probably will happen on shadowlands too

  4. #304
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundering View Post
    Becouse people want Blizz to develop the game, and have ingame rewards for playing the game not just to open the wallet and get stuff....... omgod right....
    A real shame they got rid of prestige rewards like meta-achievement mounts, rare drop mounts, raid reward mounts.

    Except those all still exists. And are usually far more popular outside of the month a new store mount is given away with a 6 month sub.

  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenrys View Post
    So I get it - don't think it does much, but I get it. I also think the "so you remove this, but harassment is OK", is wide of the mark - can't this be part of a holistic change trying to remove toxicity from the game?
    What toxicity? It's a fucking fantasy game. If being /spit warrants an emotional response from anyone, so will /laugh after I kill you in game and tea bag your virtual avatar..

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    And it's still literally just vanity items with 0 impact on gameplay.

    Why do people lose their minds over vanity items? Just don't buy it if you don't like it. It's that easy.
    The simplest answer is because players want those items, and they're already paying monthly for the game. By you buying those vanity items you're promoting the behavior of money grubbing tactics and making it so those mounts will never make it into the game. Sometimes those mounts are just recolors with some shine to them, other times they're very unique and/or have special functions. To players that are dropping literal hundreds into the game a year having mounts that are that special that isn't tied to in game achievements/objectives is an insult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tikcol View Post
    What toxicity? It's a fucking fantasy game. If being /spit warrants an emotional response from anyone, so will /laugh after I kill you in game and tea bag your virtual avatar..
    Ngl, /spit never made me upset to the levels of /rofl did. /spit was just a "wow screw you too!" no matter how many times I was corpse camped by even higher levels. While a 3rd or 4th corpse camp with /rofl and them teabagging was enough to make me see red, log onto my main, and hunt them down.
    You know, it's kinda funny. On this forum you can question and criticize celebrities, developers, even governments. But only two you will net you instant infractions; religion and the actions of moderators. Really puts into perspective the literal god complexes we're dealing with here.

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    You do realize this entire removal is totally pointless.

    You can literally just create any emote you like with /e

    /e Spits on filthy store mount owner.

    There, I fixed it.

    That said, I still firmly believe that WoW has a massive toxicity problem within the community. But tweaking one emote is a pathetic gesture. If you want to address the issues, then you need to engage with the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dark One View Post
    You do realize this entire removal is totally pointless.

    You can literally just create any emote you like with /e

    /e Spits on filthy store mount owner.

    There, I fixed it.

    That said, I still firmly believe that WoW has a massive toxicity problem within the community. But tweaking one emote is a pathetic gesture. If you want to address the issues, then you need to engage with the community.
    Very true, but that doesn't cross over to the other faction. That said /point /rofl still exist and can be macro'd
    You know, it's kinda funny. On this forum you can question and criticize celebrities, developers, even governments. But only two you will net you instant infractions; religion and the actions of moderators. Really puts into perspective the literal god complexes we're dealing with here.

  9. #309
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The presence of for-cash rewards never stopped development in Vanilla in 2004, TBC in 2006, or WotLK in 2008. The "golden days" of WoW for many. Yet now you and others are going to cry how it is suddenly a problem.
    It's funny because back in 2007 when the trading card game Loot Cards existed, nobody cared about having the ability to spend real money on ingame pets/mounts/vanity items. In fact, the biggest complaint is that they were too hard to get, people whining and crying that you had to spend hundreds of dollars on booster packs just to maybe get the item you wanted.

    But now, in TBC Classic, LITERALLY ONE MOUNT gets added, and everyone loses their minds that the game is ruined.

    lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    It's funny because back in 2007 when the trading card game Loot Cards existed, nobody cared about having the ability to spend real money on ingame pets/mounts/vanity items. In fact, the biggest complaint is that they were too hard to get, people whining and crying that you had to spend hundreds of dollars on booster packs just to maybe get the item you wanted.

    But now, in TBC Classic, LITERALLY ONE MOUNT gets added, and everyone loses their minds that the game is ruined.

    lmao
    except they did have issue with it and they *did* mock people at the start with the spectral tiger. Not to mention you clearly didn't play back then or else you'd remember "that retarded horse" from WotLK. Grats, you played yourself.
    You know, it's kinda funny. On this forum you can question and criticize celebrities, developers, even governments. But only two you will net you instant infractions; religion and the actions of moderators. Really puts into perspective the literal god complexes we're dealing with here.

  11. #311
    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    you clearly didn't play back then
    Opened my WoW account in December 2007. Keep seething

    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    "that retarded horse" from WotLK.
    I wasn't even talking about that. Didn't mention it a single time anywhere in my post.

    Grats, you're illiterate.

    Lmao, THIS gets infracted for "trolling" ? Good fucking job MMO-C mods.
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  12. #312
    Quote Originally Posted by Leotheras the Blind View Post
    except they did have issue with it and they *did* mock people at the start with the spectral tiger. Not to mention you clearly didn't play back then or else you'd remember "that retarded horse" from WotLK. Grats, you played yourself.
    The game has players who openly mock those without FOMO items - the same ones wish to remove items at the expense of others and the games health. The cash shop is well deserved.

  13. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    PATCH NOTES: WE HAVE REMOVED PLAYER'S ABILITY TO SIT.

    Player characters: Legs...so tired....
    I bet they will put in a CD between how often you can sit and stand, it's enough with 10 seconds to remove teabagging. You read it here first!

  14. #314
    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    It's funny because back in 2007 when the trading card game Loot Cards existed, nobody cared about having the ability to spend real money on ingame pets/mounts/vanity items. In fact, the biggest complaint is that they were too hard to get, people whining and crying that you had to spend hundreds of dollars on booster packs just to maybe get the item you wanted.
    The difference being that those items were largely intended to promote the TCG.

    Is it "okay" from a modern perspective?
    Not necessarily, but i'd argue that due to the fact that they've added an actual cashshop and discontinued the TCG (with HS being its spiritual successor), was not intended as solely to be an MTX for WoW.

    Also, if they wanted to pull the "TCG" card, they should've added a TCG mount - this comparison with the TCG is completely made up by players, not by Blizzard.
    If the TCG actually had not existed in TBC, you'd actually believe that Blizzard would have not added the mount to TBCC?
    You actually think they would've said "whelp, can't do that!"?
    The boost is proof that Blizzard, when money is on the line, doesn't care about historical precedence.
    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    But now, in TBC Classic, LITERALLY ONE MOUNT gets added, and everyone loses their minds that the game is ruined.
    Because most people can see the writing on the wall.

    Blizzard went from "Character Boosts are not in keeping with Classic. We don't want to break any hearts." to "58 boosts are fine to deliver the TBC experience" within less than two years, the mount is just the icing on the cake and i (and many others) don't trust Blizzard one bit that more MTX will follow.
    You don't need a crystal ball to predict that Blizzard will add the WoW Token to Classic servers before we'll arrive at Classic WoD (if such a thing would ever happen to begin with).

  15. #315
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    The difference being that those items were largely intended to promote the TCG.
    So. It was still a item earned in-game through cash. Same principle as any other items purchased today with real money that appear in-game. If one is bad then the other has to be bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    If it's female, you /moan. If it's male, you /moon.

    Or the reverse, for some.
    NO!!!

    /insult is too weak
    /fart is too inconckusive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Multitorix Davlen View Post
    They super did. I remember quite a few disparaging remarks when I got sparkle pony all those years ago. The shit now is pretty much on par for the old store mounts.
    It is not even close, not even 1/10th of what was going on on the classic servers.
    People were spiting and calling out all sort of rude things to the players lol.. an absolute assault.

  18. #318
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    So. It was still a item earned in-game through cash. Same principle as any other items purchased today with real money that appear in-game. If one is bad then the other has to be bad.
    I wouldn't call those TCG items good, but i think items intended for cross promotions aren't on the same level as janking in a mount into a game whose community is very aversed to MTX, while the equation of Blizzard is simply based on the concept of "There aren't enough people willing to quit over that it'll end up as a net loss for us".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven View Post
    You would think so, but sadly a big part of them are not children, and most of them did /spit on people becouse of a certain streamer telling them to.
    Yeah exactly. But to my eyes they are children, they might happen to have adult shapes :P but their brains are definitely inferior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoundOfGuns View Post
    On one hand... If you are so pathetic about your shitty, 14 year old content (and i mean the purists who bawl over every change) that you get mad at people for buying some edition with a mount in it... ya' kinda deserve getting slapped in some way? Like, shut up, man, i played it when that came out. You aren't anything special just for playing that now, 2nd-Row. Sit down.

    But this is also not... harassment. It's an emote. Im not playing BC, i did that 14 years and thats that for me. So this just seems very idiotic. Thats almost as dumb as when they removed the Troll-Emote about killing two dwarfs.
    Trust me, it was harassment. People with the mount were getting maybe 20 spits per minute rofl. And many others were calling names to those... Blizzard probably got record reports so the easiest thing to do is remove the emote.

    Now, if you ask me, they should simply cancel it when casted towards a person on that mount. That would make it fair.

  20. #320
    I'm not a vindictive man, but I think it would be hilarious if the community attached another emote to spam others with toxicity. Maybe we're asking the wrong questions here.

    Maybe the only question worth asking is, "How many emotes can we potentially get 'banned'?"

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