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    Red face why is no one playing survival. its insanely strong right now

    if youre not topping the dps charts youre topping the bg scoreboards. its nuts how strong it is.

    cluster bombs for absurd aoe dmg. more movement spells than you can think of (disengage, flanking strank, harpoon, cheetah, goblin rocket jump, plus engineer crap).

    then in pvp youre basically a warrior with a pet and ranged abilities.


    it seems either people dont know how to play it or they have yet to realize how strong survival is right now and its being kept a secret by survival players. seriously try it.

    trust me try it. the fun is real.

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    I never understood the survival hunter. Do you need a bow aswell with macros for every ability to replace your weapon in order to use the ranged abilities or do u just not use them at all?

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    Probably because many guilds have a glut of melee, and don’t want any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuq View Post
    I never understood the survival hunter. Do you need a bow aswell with macros for every ability to replace your weapon in order to use the ranged abilities or do u just not use them at all?
    You don't use them period. However only the big focus spenders are melee only, a lot can still be done at range if necessary. And Aspect of the Eagle is a CD to use all your abilities at range for a short time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuq View Post
    I never understood the survival hunter. Do you need a bow aswell with macros for every ability to replace your weapon in order to use the ranged abilities or do u just not use them at all?
    lol what ? It's a melee spec, you use a melee weapon...
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    cause it isn't fun for most people. the people in charge of class design have no clue what they are doing with hunter. most people just stick to bm or mm right now since that is roughly still the class they signed up for. there's a reason hunters used to be the class with the most players and hasn't since legion.

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    Min maxxers are gonna hop on whatever is strong but I know personally when I play hunter it's because I want to play a ranged class, not melee. I have my warrior for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrium View Post
    if youre not topping the dps charts youre topping the bg scoreboards. its nuts how strong it is.

    cluster bombs for absurd aoe dmg. more movement spells than you can think of (disengage, flanking strank, harpoon, cheetah, goblin rocket jump, plus engineer crap).

    then in pvp youre basically a warrior with a pet and ranged abilities.


    it seems either people dont know how to play it or they have yet to realize how strong survival is right now and its being kept a secret by survival players. seriously try it.

    trust me try it. the fun is real.
    Source for topping the dps charts? Maybe in keys but certainly not raids as far as I can tell.
    I will agree it's absurdly fun in PvP but raids, nah. Pretty sure Survival is one of the weakest melee in terms of raw damage and utility.
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    Just waiting for them to roll it back to ranged personally.

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    Hunter fantasy is mostly connected to the bow and being a ranged dps. It just feels weird for people to play it as melee.

    And then you have the meta reasons, like it being hard for melee to get into groups or have spots in raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dafuq View Post
    I never understood the survival hunter. Do you need a bow aswell with macros for every ability to replace your weapon in order to use the ranged abilities or do u just not use them at all?
    Nah, for those two ranged attacks you apparently summon a hand crossbow... For no reason and from some unknown pocket. Yeah it's wierd. But a bit like the Outlaw pistol I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrium View Post
    if youre not topping the dps charts youre topping the bg scoreboards. its nuts how strong it is.

    cluster bombs for absurd aoe dmg. more movement spells than you can think of (disengage, flanking strank, harpoon, cheetah, goblin rocket jump, plus engineer crap).

    then in pvp youre basically a warrior with a pet and ranged abilities.


    it seems either people dont know how to play it or they have yet to realize how strong survival is right now and its being kept a secret by survival players. seriously try it.

    trust me try it. the fun is real.
    "Insanely strong" eh? Guess that's why it hasn't been used in a raid setup for a world first kill in... 6 years. https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...ld-first-kill/

    I actually quite like survival, though they pruned it WAY too much in BFA/SL compared to Legion, where it was WAY too bloated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
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    "Insanely strong" eh? Guess that's why it hasn't been used in a raid setup for a world first kill in... 6 years. https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...ld-first-kill/

    I actually quite like survival, though they pruned it WAY too much in BFA/SL compared to Legion, where it was WAY too bloated.
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    I like it yes, but its not insanely strong, its middle of the pack now, which is a good spot. You can do good in bgs, thats true and its decent in PvE for sure!

    Love the playstyle personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrium View Post
    if youre not topping the dps charts youre topping the bg scoreboards. its nuts how strong it is.

    cluster bombs for absurd aoe dmg. more movement spells than you can think of (disengage, flanking strank, harpoon, cheetah, goblin rocket jump, plus engineer crap).

    then in pvp youre basically a warrior with a pet and ranged abilities.


    it seems either people dont know how to play it or they have yet to realize how strong survival is right now and its being kept a secret by survival players. seriously try it.

    trust me try it. the fun is real.
    It has little to do with performance. The vast majority of hunters play the class to play ranged, specifically focused around the bow or gun.

    Survival goes against the biggest draw of the class itself to go melee. You yourself put it best, it feels like a warrior with a pet. If I wanted to be a warrior, I would be.

    I respect that Blizz wanted to expand the class fantasy, but they went about it in a terrible way and Survival will never be popular regardless of how it performs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DazManianDevil View Post
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...&spec=Survival
    Quality representation this tier! /s
    I'm guessing you can't quite read though.

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    They're imba for PvP but 'meh' for PvE where other Melee classes do a better job in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrium View Post
    if youre not topping the dps charts youre topping the bg scoreboards. its nuts how strong it is.

    cluster bombs for absurd aoe dmg. more movement spells than you can think of (disengage, flanking strank, harpoon, cheetah, goblin rocket jump, plus engineer crap).

    then in pvp youre basically a warrior with a pet and ranged abilities.


    it seems either people dont know how to play it or they have yet to realize how strong survival is right now and its being kept a secret by survival players. seriously try it.

    trust me try it. the fun is real.
    It's because they can't make the spec too strong or you'd have everyone whining that they're forced to play a melee spec. People can't just play what they enjoy they can only play what's best

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    I don't care what's strongest, I care about what I found fun. for me that's beast mastery. ranged attacks without having to stand still (which sets it apart from the casters) and a pet to tank when I'm solo... I've got other characters for melee and I find ranged more fun anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Nah, for those two ranged attacks you apparently summon a hand crossbow... For no reason and from some unknown pocket. Yeah it's wierd. But a bit like the Outlaw pistol I suppose.

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    You mean as weird as summoning an unlimited amount of arrows from an invisible quiver?

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