View Poll Results: What xpac had the more worse story?

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    151 35.95%
  • SL

    269 64.05%
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  1. #221
    ofc WOD is worse.. timetravel crap is always garbage

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by uncl55 View Post
    ofc WOD is worse.. timetravel crap is always garbage
    RIGHT??

    Why do people keep doing it! UGH /sabrina

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Elyiandris View Post
    Both stories are a disaster, but in WoD you knew the franchise would eventually move somewhere familiar to the setting afterwards, like the Legion, Azshara, Zandalar, Kul Tiras or Nzoth. Plus, as some have said, we can ignore it safely and headcanon it out of existence.

    What's left after Shadowlands? They've burned through the entire lore of the setting. I can only hope we can ignore it entirely (other than cosmetics) after it's gone.
    The way these self-congratulatory dimwits are constructing the Shadowlands by setting up all these mystery boxes no one cares about makes me think that we're not going to see any 'real' Warcraft content anymore. It's just going to be more bland Danuser mumbo-jumbo with no basis in Warcraft lore, devoid of interesting characters & locations, internal consistency or any respect for the history of this universe.

    At least you can buy a few more books every year that try to piece together this botched abomination of a story.

    This is what you get when you put some bald contrarian in charge of the story who thinks stuff like GoT season 8 (which was so horrendous that it single-handedly purged all interest for the setting from everyone's minds) is 'genius' while larping on twitter as his cringe self-insert character.
    The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
    Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
    Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?

  4. #224
    They even deprived themselves of the means to retcon it effectively. Story-wise they can't even blow up the shadow lands and roll with 'all death is permanent now' as that would rob the place for many of these godlike beings to interact with the world of the living as well.

  5. #225
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    I just wish they could stop telling they story in small parts were the characters intention is hidden from us. It doesn't make the story any better when things are revealed months from each other. Not everything has to be a mystery. We knew LK wanted, we knew what DW wanted, we knew what Garrosh wanted. Just tell us what exatly the Jailer is going after. It looks like he is after the soul of our world, Azeroth. But just tell us that. Else it will just lead to useless speculations.

  6. #226
    BFA is the worst, followed by SL, then WoD

  7. #227
    This isn't how it works, during the expansion no matter which one, it's the worst f'ing expansion of all time, when the new expansion comes out everyone start bashing that one and reminiscing about how all the previous expansions we're not so bad and actually good and some were exceptional.

    I came back to wow at BFA, on horde, 4 months in to SL i switched to Alliance (joined family), during that bfa time i was all over classic for a good chunk of time, but my gawd BFA was the worst dumpster fire of all time, even worse than WoD, oddly enough i've been coming across threads over the last few months where bfa was actually a really good expansion, heck even WoD has a whole new following of fans ffs.
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    talking trash about SL because you can't accept that there are realities that are not known yet. Is not like that everything outside your limited comfort zone is trash. LOL
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  9. #229
    Shadowlands is worse but WoD end boss switch sucks donkey balls as well

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwes View Post
    Hey,

    inspired by another SL story thread, i asked myself what MMOC ppls say:

    Which one had/has the more worse story? WoD or SL ?

    This thread should not feel like its purely targeted to ppl that do not like the SL story. Or to disgrace SL (or WoD). But i also do not want to add some „i liked both, but WoD more“ and „i liked both, but SL more“ options, since when you like SL factor 100 more than WoD, it still answers the question. In short: I purely wanna find out what ppl vote solely between the 2, even when that poll feels a bit negatively associated (what is not my intention per se).

    So, without any real rating HOW good or bad you find the story of the 2 xpacs: Which one had/has, in your opinion, the more worse story ?

    WoD or SL ?

    Happy voting



    Edit:

    REMINDER: Dont forget we talk solely about the story/writing/lore here, NOT about the xpac itself (xpac as a whole)!
    What could honestly be worse than timey-wimey, poorly used BIG NAME characters ( i mean half the warlords were done in with and not even used as raid bosses ), half written plots, and characters that seemingly do things on a complete whim and forget what happened 20 minutes ago.

    SL has had some interesting lore moments, a for the most part, wholish story, gonna judge it once everything is done. SL feels like the first time in a long time a big bad badie is there from the get go and we know who the final threat is. Covs are very cool, poorly implemented, but storywise, totally cool. It seems like a fleshed out afterlife and gives a lot of context to so many things. You are going to see negativity across the board in the current climate of things wow related.

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    "Draenor is free" is just as bad as "I will never serve", but so far SL has a worse story purely on how absolutely inconsistent it is. I hate making comparisons to shit like star wars but the story in SL feels like the sequel trilogy in that it feels clobbered together at the last minute. Sylvanas going from "You will be made to serve" to "I will never serve" just from the jailor saying the same thing to force a redemption is such laughably bad writing.

  12. #232
    Shadowlands I would consider the worst because its freshest in the mind. BFA and WoD don't get a pass either.

  13. #233
    Shadowlands by far.

    Shadowlands is exactly the level of filler WoD was, except it doesn't even explore interesting character backstories or "what ifs" that people had been considering since the beginning of WoW.

    Sure, time travel nonsense, but time travel had already been in WoW since BC.

    Shadowlands main bad guys are nobodies, it's main locations will be forgotten about the moment we leave them, the characters we met will only continue into a Broker based expansion (meaning all the death realm beings? useless and will be forgotten asap) - It's plot has been nonsense since BfA, none of it's characters are particularly compelling to follow, and the high focus on Sylvanas despite her being one of the most disliked characters in the game's history has certainly not helped whatsoever.

    There's no saving SL.
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  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    pls explain Elune just recent video then, what does it mean, and is there anything behind it than showing that Bowmsamdi is actually and probably best god-like figure in azeroth?
    Like other polytheistic religions Elune as a polytheistic deity has little to no power outside of the realm she is in control of. If that is life or light we do not know yet. Zeus/Jupiter had absolutely no control of knowledge about what goes on within the realm of Hades or under the seas where Poseidon/Neptune ruled. Athena was the Goddess of war and wisdom but outside her realm, she was almost useless. Ares was useless at war.

    That's polytheism, the gods are not the Abrahamic mythological one, very few gods even get that level even in fiction. As for Elune her interactions, her history has shown she can on Azeroth only interact at a limited manner. When the legion invaded all she did was essentially stop Tyrande from being killed yet never lifted a finger for the rest of the Kaldorei. No help in basically any other wars pretty much.

    Her only other interaction is basically turning Kaldorei into whisps on death, what she did was basically due to the nature of being a life/light deity have no means of knowing what's going on in the shadowlands answered the call of the Winterqueen. After the burning of the world tree and while it was happening, her limited ability to intervene she used what she could so the kaldorei who would die didn't suffer and instead of turning them into whisps tried to get them into ardenwield.

  15. #235
    SL is hands down the worst expansion to date , worst launch , worst starting experience , worst post content , worst story. Worst features god it’s absolute trash. At least WOD was fun just got cut way to early.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by xpsync View Post
    This isn't how it works, during the expansion no matter which one, it's the worst f'ing expansion of all time,
    This hasn't been the case since WoD.

    Legion was not the worst due to WoD, BfA was debatably the worst, and SL then re-took worst spot without question.

    The trend broke a long time ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    I'm sorry sir, but we do not serve complimentary cheese when you bring your own whine.

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by bigbleach View Post
    What could honestly be worse than timey-wimey, poorly used BIG NAME characters ( i mean half the warlords were done in with and not even used as raid bosses ), half written plots, and characters that seemingly do things on a complete whim and forget what happened 20 minutes ago.

    SL has had some interesting lore moments, a for the most part, wholish story, gonna judge it once everything is done. SL feels like the first time in a long time a big bad badie is there from the get go and we know who the final threat is. Covs are very cool, poorly implemented, but storywise, totally cool. It seems like a fleshed out afterlife and gives a lot of context to so many things. You are going to see negativity across the board in the current climate of things wow related.
    the funny thing is, i think EXACTLY THIS about Legion:

    What could honestly be worse than timey-wimey, poorly used BIG NAME characters, half written plots, and characters that seemingly do things on a complete whim and forget what happened 20 minutes ago.

    To me Legion felt like a „spit all existing lore/BC stuff in a xpac“ without any deep or consistence. Every class order hall quest was spicked with some lore part, quickly spitted in, quested, some known character quickly killed, forgotten 20mins ago.

    I know there are many ppl out there, for which Legion was one of the best xpacs ever made. To me it more felt like the start of the BfA/SL cheap shit BS and maybe just felt good, because in contrast to WoDs missing content. But i found Legion lousy and its funny to me, that EXACTLY the words you choose, dscribe perfectly, what Legion felt to me.

    So, as always: Tastes differ.

    But thanks for these statement. Even when you describing WoD with this statment, i never found such exact perfect words, to describe what Legion felt to me. So i write this not, to comment the topic or your statement in any way. Since Legion has nothing to do with this topic. I just had to write this, because your words so perfectly described what i felt about Legion.

  18. #238
    SL because SL existed after Sylvanas multiple causal reeeeee to get away.

    You can say she is backed by mystery copied villain of the expansion so she can reeeeee away however she want. But why would the alliance bother to corner her for the nth time fully knowing she would just reeeeeeeeee. Why act surprise. the dialog should be like "We killed all your troops, there is nothing for you to do here, reeeee away!"

    At least show some cut scene of alliance / horde mages and scholar talking about how to stop her reeeeee before confronting her. But no, oooops she reeeeeee away AGAIN, well good jobs guys, we tried. Yeah that's what banshee does, yep yep yep, nothing we can do.
    Last edited by gobio; 2021-08-06 at 06:41 AM.

  19. #239
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    WoD was shit but WoD gave us Gul'dan so I would say its slightly better than SL for that reason alone.

  20. #240
    WoD had the most asspull setup and was the most unfinished/rushed. Otherwise, I think it was okay. We got attacked by orcs. We killed the orcs. Some of them summoned the legion, like orcs do, and we started fighting the legion. If they would have had time to flesh out the in between bits a bit more (shattrah raid, that island that got deleted, the questing in terrokar forrest), it would probably have been a decent expansion with a silly premise.

    BFA has the worst structure and focus. It had the worst character arcs and motivation. It was just terrible from start to finish. The only thing I kinda liked was the Jaina and Zandalar stories during leveling and they were mostly unrelated to what was happening (the tree burning, Nagas, old gods showing up and so on).

    SL as a premise makes sense. It has a pretty good setup and the structure so far is fine..ish. It's just still plagued by the terrible arcs started in BFA (nightwarrior/elune and Sylvanas) and is really trying to hard with creating SUPER shocking MOMENTS 11! without proper setup/buildup. Just like BFA was. Oh and the villain is probably the most boring "super evil titan" since the guy from Guardians of the Galaxy 1.

    So while the SL story is by no means enjoyable to play through, I don't think there will ever be story as bad as BFA.
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