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  1. #341
    A fun game that doesn't require 800 mods and a dozen spreadsheets to play

  2. #342
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Spears View Post
    Is this the same group of people who where gonna pick their covenants based on personal taste?

    I keep hearing about these magical invisible majorities but whenever something comes along where we can actually poll them they suddenly can't be found...
    Yes, I am specifically saying that the people who do not participate in forum discussions also, surprisingly, do not participate in polls on forums. Who could've possibly guessed there wouldn't be a whole lot of overlap there?

  3. #343
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Yes, I am specifically saying that the people who do not participate in forum discussions also, surprisingly, do not participate in polls on forums. Who could've possibly guessed there wouldn't be a whole lot of overlap there?
    I meant using a program to scrap the armory. We saw with covenants the " We do what we want!" crowd makes up an extreme minority of players. I just grow weary of people with terrible arguments trying to hide behind fantasy rather then being able to come up with logical arguments to support their position.

    Edit: I wouldn't trust a average wow player to honestly tell me what they had for lunch. There are absurd levels of ego at play in this games community.

  4. #344
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Spears View Post
    I meant using a program to scrap the armory. We saw with covenants the " We do what we want!" crowd makes up an extreme minority of players. I just grow weary of people with terrible arguments trying to hide behind fantasy rather then being able to come up with logical arguments to support their position.

    Edit: I wouldn't trust a average wow player to honestly tell me what they had for lunch. There are absurd levels of ego at play in this games community.
    Excuse me for using your evidence (" whenever something comes along where we can actually poll them they suddenly can't be found...") against you. It was truly my mistake to even begin to postulate against the notion that every WoW player truly, deeply despises the game. I mean why else would they continue to buy new expansions and pay $15/mo to play it? Sunk cost fallacy, amirite guys?! People like you are the unsung heroes of the community, reminding us at every turn that the old WoW was good but the new WoW is bad.

    Whoops, my bad.

  5. #345
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Spears View Post
    I meant using a program to scrap the armory. We saw with covenants the " We do what we want!" crowd makes up an extreme minority of players. I just grow weary of people with terrible arguments trying to hide behind fantasy rather then being able to come up with logical arguments to support their position.

    Edit: I wouldn't trust a average wow player to honestly tell me what they had for lunch. There are absurd levels of ego at play in this games community.
    To be fair, the 'everyone picked the mathematically superior covenant' argument relies on a piece of information that you (or anyone else) does NOT have – peoples motivation for picking said covenant. DK’s and Necrolord Is probably the best example of a situation where the ‘best’ covenant is also the strongest thematically.

    I have no doubt that a lot of peopl looked at a guide and just did what it said, so im not saying that this was NOT the case, but, we do not have the information required to use the data as evidence.

    Some people may have chosen their covenant for xmog, the mount, theme, RP reasons, their enjoyment of the ability, or performance. To take the limited data we have and claim everyone who made their decision based it purely on performance is disingenuous.
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  6. #346
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    10 man mythic raiding.

    Nothing else comes even close to that.
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    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
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    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  7. #347
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    Being able to BiS a character so I can bis an alt and then bis another alt.

  8. #348
    I have no hope for WOW anymore. It's a zombie game, dead but still moving around
    Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam

  9. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    10 man mythic raiding.

    Nothing else comes even close to that.
    Personally, I have always prefered smaller, tight knit raid teams over large ones. Large scale PVP is fun, but I always found large scale raids to be less enjoyable than the 10mans. The introduction of Flex was very welcome, as at the time I was running 2 raid teams - the main raid team, and the friends and family team. The problem was, the friends and family team needed a lot of help, so trying to balance having enough mains while still making sure all the friends and family got in was challenging.

    Yes, Flex was very easy, but it meant we could bring some alts (from the main raiders) and still bring all friends and family. Was it difficult? no, not at all, but it was ideal for what we wanted.

    Im not sure about 10man Mythic though, I just think the game has increased in difficulty so much, pretty much everything in a 10man would be a 1shot, timers would be insanely tight, and even a single death would be a wipe, as that one person is a huge percentage of the teams damage. It also forces simplifcation of mechanics, as you have less players available to complete tasks. It would end up playing on rails - You bring 2 tanks, 2 healers, and these exact dps specs, or you are gonna have a bad time.

    What im saying is, imo, its a cool thought, but in practice i just dont see it working

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    I have no hope for WOW anymore. It's a zombie game, dead but still moving around
    HAHA, this is actually surprisingly accurate.
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  10. #350
    Dear Blizzard, if you're reading this and you go with all the suggestions of remaking azeroth please remember to put Zidormi somewhere so we can go back, thanks.
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    - Bring back my damn zoom distance/MoP Portals - I read OP minimum, 1st page maximum-make wow alt friendly again -Please post constructively(topkek) -Kill myself

  11. #351
    barely into 9.1 and ppl talking about 10.0 already.

  12. #352
    Blizzard has a severe issue with every class that is not Demon Hunter navigating the game world on a completely different level. I’d love if blizzard went to the drawing board with how these classes move and navigate and give everybody a fresh coat of paint. Make moving around fun for everyone. I can’t even play a class that isnt DH because of how bloated and slow everything else feels. It doesn’t even feel like the same game. Just find movement gimmicks that are unique and fun to press for every class. That’s all I want.
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  13. #353
    I think 4th (or for Druids 5th) specs would be cool, if it also brought favorites back like Gladiator. But it also runs the risk of the major addition being a new spec and if you don't play that spec, you don't get a new addition.

  14. #354
    Ion to be replaced, Drago expansion
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    Biden is a creepy old dude, I will not be voting for the guy.
    ^ This is from a self-proclaimed Trump-hater who goes round vote-policing, berating and insulting other users for expressing their doubts and reservations about Joe Biden. He also urges others to end relationships and friendships just to "vote Trump out". https://ibb.co/2jRnZGC He can't seem to walk the talk himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis-GR View Post
    Return to Azeroth, no need to visit other planets/planes.
    We just came from there.

  16. #356
    Ion leaving Blizzard to pursue new opportunities.

  17. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Excuse me for using your evidence (" whenever something comes along where we can actually poll them they suddenly can't be found...") against you. It was truly my mistake to even begin to postulate against the notion that every WoW player truly, deeply despises the game. I mean why else would they continue to buy new expansions and pay $15/mo to play it? Sunk cost fallacy, amirite guys?! People like you are the unsung heroes of the community, reminding us at every turn that the old WoW was good but the new WoW is bad.

    Whoops, my bad.
    It is more the case of people being unable to either be honest or properly convey what it is they want out of the game. I am not immune to this either it is a natural human failing. The key is to take a step back and look at what it actually is people are doing rather then what they claim to be doing. Relying on feedback is always limited as you have to trust the person is able to take a step back and actually analyze what it is they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    To be fair, the 'everyone picked the mathematically superior covenant' argument relies on a piece of information that you (or anyone else) does NOT have – peoples motivation for picking said covenant. DK’s and Necrolord Is probably the best example of a situation where the ‘best’ covenant is also the strongest thematically.

    I have no doubt that a lot of peopl looked at a guide and just did what it said, so im not saying that this was NOT the case, but, we do not have the information required to use the data as evidence.

    Some people may have chosen their covenant for xmog, the mount, theme, RP reasons, their enjoyment of the ability, or performance. To take the limited data we have and claim everyone who made their decision based it purely on performance is disingenuous.
    When we are talking about numbers in the millions and only four possible choices do we truly need to account for those extreme outliners? You are right I can't read the mind of every single person that plays but there are massive enough differences that those outliners are...well outliners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbolt View Post
    Being able to BiS a character so I can bis an alt and then bis another alt.
    Yes please. Atm, devs seem terrified at the mere idea of letting the players "beat" their game, i.e. acquiring BiS in a reasonable time frame, so that alts can be played and brought to a comparable power level. Because the "alt friendliest expansion ever" is actually even less friendly than freaking Cata.
    If the Janitor managed to pwn Azeroth:

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    "Die, wold soul of *incomprehensible mumbling* with your death my plan to *incomprehensible mumbling* finally fullfilled and *incomprehensible mumbling*!"

  19. #359
    Remove artifact power grind. Power progression should be tied to level and level only, not covenants, renown or artifact power.

  20. #360
    #1 Blizzard listening to feedback. Not just saying they are.
    #2 Get more creative then just setting a time gating to everything to keep content "alive" for longer during patch cycles.

    Example: 7 weeks to complete a quest isnt great content.

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