Where are all the male characters in Warcraft ?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

It helps explain why the story is so bad. Agendas supercede competent writing. You sadly see it everywhere nowadays.

so what wow story's have been made worse for the sole reason that the lead is a woman?

[Darkeon]

so what wow story's have been made worse for the sole reason that the lead is a woman?

I mean, he explains his reasoning on his post. Granted, it's not as fun as trying to paint him as a sexist, but still.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I mean, he explains his reasoning on his post. Granted, it's not as fun as trying to paint him as a sexist, but still.

saying "Agenda superseding competent wiring" Isn't an explanation its just a statement with no reason given to show case it being the case. which is why I asked for examples of said Agenda (lack of men) being the reason the writing is poor.

If Sylvanas was a man with a six pack walking around shirtless or Tyrande was a huge bear of man they would still be written like shit them being woman has nothing to do with why the story is bad.

[Darkeon]

If Sylvanas was a man with a six pack walking around shirtless or Tyrande was a huge bear of man they would still be written like shit them being woman has nothing to do with why the story is bad.

Good thing he didn't say such a thing, I guess.

[Beastiel]

Imagine forgetting that Varian wanted to genocide the Horde after the Wrathgate. And then again after the Siege of Orgrimmar. Whoops.

Yeah imagine wanting to destroy the enemy faction just because they've proven they can't be trusted with peace and because they're the enemy faction. Such toxic masculinity.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Good thing he didn't say such a thing, I guess.

He doesn't say much of any thing which is why i asked for examples, what aren't you getting here?

[arkanon]

You're twisting your arguments.

There's nothing wrong with a female narrative. The problem is the bad writing.

I disagree - there is nothing at all wrong with a well written character who happens to be female, involved in a well written story, but there is everything wrong with a "female narrative" - just look at Ghostbusters 2016, or that all female Oceans movie that everyone has entirely forgotten even happened.

OP might totally disagree, and I could be way off base, but i believe people have issues with the fake 'woke' bullshit happening in many forms of entertainment at the moment - the above two examples being shining examples of why it is a bad idea.

[BaumanKing]

The future is female, old man.

[s_bushido]

Yeah imagine wanting to destroy the enemy faction just because they've proven they can't be trusted with peace and because they're the enemy faction. Such toxic masculinity.

I hope you don't seriously think that people who aren't "evil" consider murdering vast swathes of people because some among them committed atrocities.

[Voidism]

How do you know what they identify as? No one has even asked their pronouns and just assume.

[Video Games]

I'm sick of women who are just men characters. I want more mothers and feminine ones

[vizzle]

Aw, it wants to talk about the basics of storytelling, but can't even figure out that the player being able to side with her didn't make her any less the villain. How adorable. Saurfang was the hero of the Horde's story in BfA. Try to argue that he didn't exemplify everything good about "strong men." Go ahead. It will be fun to watch.

As for Sylvanas supposedly being "redeemed." Well, people complained about Illidan's redemption in Legion, but somehow it magically wasn't made out to be some nefarious Identity Politics™ plot. Because, you know, that would have been a fucking stupid thing to believe.


roflmao

This is what happens, kids, when you fall so far down the rabbit-hole of anti-SJW horseshit. Let it be a cautionary tale.


Imagine forgetting that Varian wanted to genocide the Horde after the Wrathgate. And then again after the Siege of Orgrimmar. Whoops.

Yeah, it's called... war? "Great character" =/= "good character". "Great character" means the character is understandable, built on a strong foundation, and explained well. Varian was a great character.

I forget that I'm trying to discuss with people on a video game forum.

[ldev]

Someone needs to get laid, as this is impossible due to being an incel and not having enough money for.. escort, I'd suggest touching yourself.

[Azerate]

This thread is so stupid it's painful to read

[scubi666stacy]

Well, its usual that men die in wars and then women have to do their jobs.

[Doffen]

How do you know what they identify as? No one has even asked their pronouns and just assume.

Thats what I was thinking!

Outrageous! We live in 2021.


And, totally unrelatable: Boob sliders, when?

[MoanaLisa]

Afrasiabi killed a lot of them in Legion.

[Kithelle]

Don't you like NuTrek? Which is very female heavy to the point where the males are jokes, idiots, or murderers...

[Aresk]

I'm baffled by these questions. The assault on the Sanctum of Domination is led by Bolvar, Thrall, and Jaina: two-third of those are male. Meanwhile, in the weekly story quests, the combined resistance forces are led by the Primus, who is also male. The most recent narrative quest deals with Uther recovering his sense of self and reconciling his feelings about Arthas, with the help of Adrestes, all three of whom are male. The main villains of the narrative have been the Jailer and Sylvanas, half of whom are male. Supporting villain cast are Kel'thuzad, Vyraz, Denathrius, Helya, three-quarters male. I think you're drastically exaggerating the issue here, and I'm not really sure why.

[Beloren]

Oh no, not Sylvanas, Tyrande, Jaina and Azshara. Important characters since the Warcraft 3 days. How dare these be of influence today. It's only about women.

*Slaps Thrall, Baine, Anduin and the Jailer aside*

How dare Elune's primary follower get exposure as we're dealing with Elune's sister. And the only undead character of importance be the one center stage in this undead expansion.

This whiny thread will be closed, and well it should. Jeez. Maybe try and care less about what characters have in their pants. "I can't enjoy this story as much if there's no character with a dick center stage at all times". Ridiculous.

I like all those characters Carrie. Just noticing the total dominance of female characters for the last 2 expansion skins running and how dim the male ones have been.

It’s like they’ve swung full on gem in the opposite direction.

The female characters you mentioned are some of my favourites.

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Rastakhan and Vol'jin got killed off recently, and it's a shame. We still Rokhan, Zekhan and Bwonsamdi though. Only Bwonsamdi has gotten a ton of focus really.

Also I noticed the our roster is lacking female trolls, so it's not just men who are lacking

Talanji? They killed most of the male ones off remember.