People who are as ignorant as you are annoying. Raids are not only for scheduled guild groups, there are people who pug and need to wait fora long time before the group is full and can't even do dailies because of this stupid limitation.
Just don't comment if you lack basic imagination, ok?
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This guy gets it. Ignorants please read before making fool of yourself.
It's probably a relatively easy fix. If you're in a raid group and a member of the group is within 40 yards then quest progress does not count. That maintains the integrity of 20 ppl not being able to do a quest and speeding through and gives players a chance to do quests while I raid group forms.
I see literally zero reason for why this restriction should remain. If the issue is large groups farming quests, just make it reward less XP the more people are around, starting at 5 players within X distance or so.
More importantly they need to take a look at which quests give credit while in a raid and which don't. For example the callings are inconsistent in this regard. I can't remember which way around, but the 0/3 quests and 0/100% bar ones have this issue. One of them gives credit for WQs done while in a raid group, the other doesn't. The only WQ this is relevant for is the world boss, because you can't do other WQs while in a raid anyway, so it already gets filtered at that level. No need for the calling itself to care whether you're in a raid or not.
have people run out of things to complain about?
i mean, it would be slight QOL improvement... but this should be WAAAAY down on their list of changes to the game...
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it does seem like a bit of an outdated restriction.
No. That would make questing stupid. You would join a 40man of "QUICK DAILEEEEESS FAST PUSSSSSSSH!!11!!!!1" group and you'll watch tv.
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That implies we all play like you. I raid lead a lot of pugs for example and I keep having to do the easy-ish job of inviting while in a raid group. I get it that in a guild that forms groups in 10 seconds it's not a big deal for example.
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I don't think it ever did (assuming it's allowed with range or at least zone checks of at most 4 other people nearby).
The only excuse I can think of is it might be more resources-hungry, but I doubt that's important.
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Oh that's a GREAT solution also (restricted to raid GROUP). This would remove the excuse that it may be resources-hungry to do a range check or a zone check.
Well.. they might say "but you can change people in groups" but I think that's already 'illegal' when in combat.
nah not really. that was the case in legion with that automated WQ thing, but it's never really been an issue since they broke that functionality.
most quests already have some sort of thing on them that you don't get credit if a party member whos 100 yards away orso completes an objective. throw in a few quests where you have to manually loot or talk to an npc and the benefit of being 40 people diminishes drastically.
i'm sure there are some exploits possible, but i doubt itll go back to legion levels of afk while doing WQ.
Anyone who is 'raiding when they're in a raid group' is basically just low-key outing themselves as never having raided on a set numbers mode.
On prog you have people step out based on what group you want to push the next boss with, on-farm you have people stepping out and in to get FnF achievements/chances to drop specific loot or simply because every guild ever runs a bench.
Further, no one ever has to be 'waiting at the stone' on the bench, generally, it's quicker and easier for the raid to summon you to the boss than have you zone in and hoof it.
Is this a massive issue that requires a hotfix? No, it's been in the game for 15 years. Is it "not a problem" or only an issue because "people have run out of things to complain about"? No, You either inconvenience people on the bench because they have to alt-tab and do something else or you inconvenience the officers/RL because people have to constantly drop and pick up the group based on the boss.
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