There's literally no reason we shouldn't be able to reforge Frostmourne as DK's

[Jastall]

I think a cosmetic Frostmourne xmog would be a nice gift at the close of Shadowlands, once we've defeated and/or handled the Jailer. Wouldn't necessarily make it class-specific or restricted, just give it was an Artifact-type xmog option for classes who can use 2H melee weapons as an extra bonus, more or less.

While as a Warrior main this would suit me, I do feel it's too much of a Death Knight weapon to just hand it over to Hunters and Paladins and whatnot. Much like Ashbringer was a Pally weapon and the Warglaives mog is strictly DH, Frostmourne is THE Death Knight weapon and would be best implemented as DK only.

[Aucald]

While as a Warrior main this would suit me, I do feel it's too much of a Death Knight weapon to just hand it over to Hunters and Paladins and whatnot. Much like Ashbringer was a Pally weapon and the Warglaives mog is strictly DH, Frostmourne is THE Death Knight weapon and would be best implemented as DK only.

I mean I main a DK, so I'm not horribly opposed to it being DK-only, but I would wager many people would feel put out by that. Frostmourne is one of those things that kind of feels emblematic beyond the DK glass, unlike Ashbringer or the Warglaives. It's iconic of an era as opposed to a single class or NPC. That's my $0.02, in any case.

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

I mean I main a DK, so I'm not horribly opposed to it being DK-only, but I would wager many people would feel put out by that. Frostmourne is one of those things that kind of feels emblematic beyond the DK glass, unlike Ashbringer or the Warglaives. It's iconic of an era as opposed to a single class or NPC. That's my $0.02, in any case.

I’d get if it would be DK only, but I really don’t care for transmog restrictions, so I’d be happier with it being being restriction-free.

As a DK main, I’d be getting it either way but still.

[Deneios]

Zovaal stole the "memories" of Primus so its a possibilty that Primus never crafted the Frostmourne in the first place only unwillingly provided the blue print.

[Ealyssa]

we're on good terms with the dude who made it.

We are in good terms with Zovaal ? Like WTF ?

And no, the Primus did not forge Frostmourne. It was a device made to manipulate de Burning Legion, brought by the Nathrezim to Sargeras. That was the plan of Denathrius and the Jailer...

[Claymore]

I'd honestly be pissed if it wasn't DK-only, to be honest.

Not because "I'm a special little snowflake", but that as others said, it's simply too iconic to the class itself, much like Ashbringer or the Scythe of Elune. Just as "only Warlocks" got a quest-chain for Green Fire (which was a BLAST! I kind of wish they'd do similar things for other classes), I think sometimes, you do have to preserve the sense of Class-fantasy.

Now having said that, I wouldn't be opposed to every other class getting a new "special weapon" as an equivalent. Maybe Uther aids the Primus in constructing a new Paladin weapon, Kael'thas maybe being involved in a Mage weapon -- you could do some cool stuff there. But Frostmourne itself is *THE* fundamental Death Knight weapon.

[kenn9530]

Honestly, I HAVE to think Blizzard is purposely fucking with us. But we literally have the shards of Frostmourne, we're on good terms with the dude who made it in the first place, and 2hand Frost is playable again -- just let it freaking HAPPEN, Blizzard!

Honestly, it might actually give me a spark of fucking excitement in this expansion again.

One reason its not a deathknight weapon, the weapon is solely for use by the lich king and the lich king alone.

[shade3891]

If you ask me it's a missed chance in Legion.

Frost should have reforged it, and unholy needed a Staff/Scythe and turned into a full ranged spec with minions.

[crakerjack]

You’re only setting yourself up for failure. Frostmourne lore was finished in Legion when we made the matching pair of artifacts for frost DK’s. If that’s the only thing potentially stopping you from quitting, you’re honestly just better off unsubbing.

[javierdsv]

We already did with the Blades of the Fallen Prince, which were stated as being more powerful than Frostmourne. They likely would not release Frostmourne as a transmog option either due to how iconic it is.

This.

It already happened, and the power of the resulting weapons was fully drained in Legion.

So Frostmourne is no more.

Also, creating another mourne blade serves no purpose, the Jailer is strong beyond comprehension and he commands "domination".
The only thing that it could be used for is to "dominate" Anduin back, but wouldn't he still be cursed?

That sword is just a useless tale right now.

[Diaphin]

You already have it.

Thats like giving a kid who wants to watch Avatar: The Last Airbender the live action blue ray.

[Crushima]

I mean, I'm not kidding when I said there's literally no reason. It doesn't even require "bending the lore" (even if it's basically garbage right now, sadly). It's honestly a shame it wasn't an Artifact back in Legion, given how much you could've done with new appearances (at the same time, I'd have probably made Unholy's Artifact a massive Scythe, but that's neither here not there).

They already gave it a sweet new makeover in Legion, I believe, so it's not like it even requires any real effort to have a good-looking version of it for us to unlock.

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Are you talking about Shadowmourne?

It's widely rumored (with loads of evidence) that Shadowmourne literally only exists, because Warriors got more damage out of Axes back in Wrath in PvE, so it honestly makes sense it would seem almost synonymous with "Warriors".

Frostmourne really needs to be a Death Knight-ONLY weapon, though. It is as core to the class's identity -- in fact, even moreso -- than Ashbringer was to Paladins.

Yes, in my haste I wrote Frostmourne, but meant Shadowmourne. I believe this is the closest all classes will get to the fabled Frostmourne, sadly.

It's such a significant weapon, that I feel it would be somewhat diminished were it able to be obtainable/transmogrifiable. I was surprised that the Ashbringer was allowed in this regard, though in terms of popularity and lore significance, Frostmourne > all, including Ashbringer, IMO.

[EntertainmentNihilist]

I mean, the LFR SoD one-handed sword is basically frostmourne. Basically, you get to duel-wield two frostmournes.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

One reason its not a deathknight weapon, the weapon is solely for use by the lich king and the lich king alone.

Hey, remember the Undead campaign of Warcraft 3 where you played Arthas as a regular Death Knight before he became the Lich King and he wielded Frostmourne? Weird.

[kenn9530]

Hey, remember the Undead campaign of Warcraft 3 where you played Arthas as a regular Death Knight before he became the Lich King and he wielded Frostmourne? Weird.

Frostmourne only purpose is to be used by the lich king, noone else can use it, if its remade its no longer the same weapon, arthas was not really a deathknight as all the powers he wielded was within the blade itself, it just made him undead and stole his soul so he essential became a puppet for the actual lich king

[Claymore]

Frostmourne only purpose is to be used by the lich king, noone else can use it, if its remade its no longer the same weapon, arthas was not really a deathknight as all the powers he wielded was within the blade itself, it just made him undead and stole his soul so he essential became a puppet for the actual lich king

Simply not true. We know that several months passed between the end of the Human campaign and the start of the Undead campaign, it makes sense he could've learned the basics of being a Death Knight. And literally ALL Death Knights draw power FROM their Runeblades; it's not something you see so much as a game-mechanic anymore (used to, if a Warrior disarmed you, you lost access to almost every single ability including spells), but it's still very much mentioned during the starter-zone. In fact, if you hang around the old Unholy trainer in Acherus (the female Blood Elf), I believe she even mentions this randomly to her students.

By all accounts, Frostmourne was little more than a walkie-talkie for Ner'zhul, he didn't actually exercise any direct influence over Arthas. Arthas served willingly (even whether Frostmourne actually "stole his soul" or not is a little ambiguous), as far as we can tell. He wasn't "the Lich King" until we donned the Helm of Dominion, and literally merged with Ner'zhul. And even so, he is still very obviously a Death Knight -- just, like a really suped-up Death Knight.

Like I said, Blizzard already saw fit to give of all of the shards of Frostmourne, allowing us to "reforge" it once. Why we were locked-in to a pair of 1handers is beyond me. And as I said, given we are on good terms with the Primus (who even if he didn't physically forge it himself, clearly COULD have, given he designed it and was a renowned weaponsmith), and already ESSENTIALLY have Frostmourne, there is simply no reason not to allow it.

[ZazuuPriest]

I mean there's literally no reason a race that can be priests and warriors cant also be paladins but here we are its 2021 and the games shit mate.

[h8ryan]

The reason is because you already reforged Frostmourne into 2 1hers in Legion

I'm not sure why a lore item is so important to you when clearly you weren't following the lore to begin with.

[Hellobolis]

Honestly, I HAVE to think Blizzard is purposely fucking with us. But we literally have the shards of Frostmourne, we're on good terms with the dude who made it in the first place, and 2hand Frost is playable again -- just let it freaking HAPPEN, Blizzard!

Honestly, it might actually give me a spark of fucking excitement in this expansion again.

you aren't on good terms with the jailer, the dude who made it.

and our relationship with the primus is a alliance of convenience/necessity at best right now. more importantly, he intentionally never made mourneblades, so why would he help you make one if it's not needed?

but the biggest reason it won't happen: frostmourne is a box selling name, so if it was gonna happen it would have been an expansion feature. (but you never know, maybe they need to prop up the quarterly report in the next year, might get lucky then.)

[kenn9530]

Simply not true. We know that several months passed between the end of the Human campaign and the start of the Undead campaign, it makes sense he could've learned the basics of being a Death Knight. And literally ALL Death Knights draw power FROM their Runeblades; it's not something you see so much as a game-mechanic anymore (used to, if a Warrior disarmed you, you lost access to almost every single ability including spells), but it's still very much mentioned during the starter-zone. In fact, if you hang around the old Unholy trainer in Acherus (the female Blood Elf), I believe she even mentions this randomly to her students.

By all accounts, Frostmourne was little more than a walkie-talkie for Ner'zhul, he didn't actually exercise any direct influence over Arthas. Arthas served willingly (even whether Frostmourne actually "stole his soul" or not is a little ambiguous), as far as we can tell. He wasn't "the Lich King" until we donned the Helm of Dominion, and literally merged with Ner'zhul. And even so, he is still very obviously a Death Knight -- just, like a really suped-up Death Knight.

Like I said, Blizzard already saw fit to give of all of the shards of Frostmourne, allowing us to "reforge" it once. Why we were locked-in to a pair of 1handers is beyond me. And as I said, given we are on good terms with the Primus (who even if he didn't physically forge it himself, clearly COULD have, given he designed it and was a renowned weaponsmith), and already ESSENTIALLY have Frostmourne, there is simply no reason not to allow it.

Arthas never trained at all in deathknight abilities, you would need years of training to learn abilities to become a deathknight, arthas just had access to the powers frostmourne had within the runes.

The 2 1handers were only fragments of the blade and nowhere near as powerful as frostmourne itself.

Frostmourne is a weapon for sole use by the lich king, you are not the lich king so no you cant have frostmourne. Its not a weapon that should ever touch a players hands.