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  1. #741
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    We already have that with certain non playable classes, races and professions. The point is a identity can be represented multiple ways.

    Blood mage is represented by Mage and Warlock already. I could see a class skin for both classes, or just one or the other, and it still works. And that doesn't get in the way of a full Blood Mage class if they ever want to explore it as a Spellbreaker spec, or as a spec for some sort of Battle-Mage class.

    We have Alchemy as a profession that makes us Alchemists, and you still see potential for an Alchemist class.

    So yes, we can have multiple ways of representing the same thing.
    Blood Mages lean more towards the fire mage, as can be seen by Kael'thas HotS character.
    I agree that in WC3 they were a lot more muddled..

    An Alchemist class/spec would most likely butcher the profession in terms of combat applicability.
    I'm tempted to apply for a moderator position, just so i can go moderator on your asses.

  2. #742
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Blood Mages lean more towards the fire mage, as can be seen by Kael'thas HotS character.
    I agree that in WC3 they were a lot more muddled..

    An Alchemist class/spec would most likely butcher the profession in terms of combat applicability.
    Yet they would all coexist fine. Class Skins are just a glorified customization feature, and I don't see how it would interfere with an actual class later any more than the above examples.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Since Arthas used Frostmourne, which is a Runeblade, and Frostmourne's power eminates from those runes, that made him a Runemaster by default.

  3. #743
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Yet they would all coexist fine. Class Skins are just a glorified customization feature, and I don't see how it would interfere with an actual class later any more than the above examples.
    Because that would be like adding a Wildhammer race while Dwarves have Wildhammer customization options. It's a waste of a feature.
    I'm tempted to apply for a moderator position, just so i can go moderator on your asses.

  4. #744
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Because that would be like adding a Wildhammer race while Dwarves have Wildhammer customization options. It's a waste of a feature.
    You mean exactly what they did with Dark Irons as a race even though we had Dark skin dwarves with red hair in Cataclysm? You're implying double standards that already exist as examples in WoW. No different than Void Elf being playable variations of Blood Elves for the Alliance, which can also be implied as a waste of a feature since they went out of their way of adding new racials and visuals to do so, even though anyone who wants a 'High Elf' could already be playing a Blood Elf. Doesn't mean the feature is unwarranted, does it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Since Arthas used Frostmourne, which is a Runeblade, and Frostmourne's power eminates from those runes, that made him a Runemaster by default.

  5. #745
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    You mean exactly what they did with Dark Irons as a race even though we had Dark skin dwarves with red hair in Cataclysm? You're implying double standards that already exist as examples in WoW. No different than Void Elf being playable variations of Blood Elves for the Alliance, which can also be implied as a waste of a feature since they went out of their way of adding new racials and visuals to do so, even though anyone who wants a 'High Elf' could already be playing a Blood Elf. Doesn't mean the feature is unwarranted, does it?
    You mean this?


    Hardly a Dark Iron representation. Though, it is an attempt.

    As for Void elves, they are definitely a different race. The High elf option for both factions was due to the outstanding demand for them - not their original plan.
    I'm tempted to apply for a moderator position, just so i can go moderator on your asses.

  6. #746
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    You mean this?


    Hardly a Dark Iron representation. Though, it is an attempt.

    As for Void elves, they are definitely a different race. The High elf option for both factions was due to the outstanding demand for them - not their original plan.
    Class Skins is not part of the original plan either. Nor are Allied Races for that matter. It's all in favour of providing more customization options that we otherwise would not have. That's all really.

    The only way to discuss a progression of their original plan is to talk about Classic Plus, really. Back when classes literally had only one viable Raiding spec, one viable PVP spec, and add to that type of design. Modern WoW resembles very little of that original plan, and their choice to balance 36 specs is in the way of adding many new class options.
    Last edited by Triceron; 2021-09-30 at 06:19 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Since Arthas used Frostmourne, which is a Runeblade, and Frostmourne's power eminates from those runes, that made him a Runemaster by default.

  7. #747
    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Class Skins is not part of the original plan either. Nor are Allied Races for that matter. It's all in favour of providing more customization options that we otherwise would not have. That's all really.

    The only way to discuss a progression of their original plan is to talk about Classic Plus, really. Back when classes literally had only one viable Raiding spec, one viable PVP spec, and add to that type of design. Modern WoW resembles very little of that original plan, and their choice to balance 36 specs is in the way of adding many new class options.
    Doesn't cover my concern of overlapping features.
    I'm tempted to apply for a moderator position, just so i can go moderator on your asses.

  8. #748
    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Doesn't cover my concern of overlapping features.
    That's your concern to deal with, really. Not a fault of the feature itself.

    Overlap already exists a fair amount in WoW.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Since Arthas used Frostmourne, which is a Runeblade, and Frostmourne's power eminates from those runes, that made him a Runemaster by default.

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