That doesn't warrant my instant gratitude for something that should've been that way since the start.
Even if this is an effect of a change in leadership they will inherit my skeptisism and distrust from the old leadership.
If they keep this up over the course of a number of major patches and actually deal with widespread feedback when they get it the first time, then I will reconsider my stance. Not sooner.
Blizzard has something to prove. And I don't owe them anything.
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The main reason for the negative response is a general sentiment from the community along the lines of "if you can do this now, why the fuck couldn't this have been done a year ago for any reason other than hubris and wilful stupidity?"
Active disrespect of people's time leads to resentment. It's fairly understandable.
Knowledge is power, and power corrupts. So study hard and be evil.
The best kind of enlightened centrism is to not actually have a set of opinions, beliefs, or values.
Sometimes people are being legitimate when they complain. Not everyone that has a pulse is somehow lesser than people who simply aren't invested. And if you aren't, you don't get to be on a pedestal about it.
Because it's happening with every single system they put out, looks almost intentional.
THE HORDE WILL ENDURE
THE HORDE IS STRONG!
God, I love the "NOOO THEY'RE JUST IRRATIONAL HATERS!!!!" copium. Not like at least 80% of the first 2-3 pages is posts explaining it loud and clear.
Too little, too late.
Problems that have been festering for years and the slew of new problems introduced due to all the bogus systems on top of systems every expansion were its downfall. The PR disaster that has ensued is just expediting it, sadly.
I don't believe people want to see little trickling olive branches and scraps of "changes" after everything. I think they want to see large sweeping changes or reverting to prior expansions' ways that were widely accepted as better. Until then? Pound sand, Bli$$ard
Nope. If we call everyone that complains a whiner and everyone that defends a drone without understanding the position of either, it just means we're super smart and in no way having the backbone of a chocolate éclair.
Bonus points for a sig that's about criticizing people for being inflammatory towards alternate belief systems while simultaneously rejecting literally everyone's.
It's a normal response for customers that have been burned one too many times. It also did not help in the least that they went ahead and tried to justify their descision with some nebulous lore bullshit that was just a blatant lie. For many people they have already burned through all the customer goodwill that they had accumulated, getting some of that back will take alot more than begrudgingly doing changes we've been asking for from the beginning. The first chance at real redemption for them will be in 10.0.
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
I’m not gonna pay blizz on the back for making changes that they had feedback on for over a year
ESPECIALLY when they have the nerve to say “millions of players experienced shadowlands in their favorite covenant and they couldn’t have without our restrictions” knowing that restrictions added nothing and I mean nothing to the gameplay experience
The intro skip has been in the beginning of the expansion since WoD but it takes a year for shadowlands to get it. They knew conduit energy was a garbage system but they did nothing about it. They had a crappy game and defended these choices tooth and nail before deciding to come out with a salty non apology to tell us “hey guys we are going to listen to you. We aren’t saying we were wrong but you were right”
They launched a broken game and said “the ripcord doesn’t exist because it would require redoing multiple systems from the ground up” to justify being stubborn jackasses
The changes aren’t the result of new management but it is the result of them being forced to make the game for the players because they ignored them for a year
The systems designer lead is an asshole and I’m so glad he got shit on Twitter and is now being forced to scrap the garbage he created
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It’s the same shit from BfA and it’s getting old
They keep “learning” the same damn lesson every expansion and the players are the ones that have to deal with it because it’s obvious from that post they don’t play the damn game
This is just the same thing they've been doing since Legion. They introduce a system, double-down on it in the face of overwhelming criticism, and then eventually walk it back after enough people unsubscribe. People aren't positive because this isn't a change, it's literally just more of the same.
When 10.0 rolls around, if they don't include predatory game systems, or God forbid, actually listen to the feedback that people post on the Beta feedback forums, then we can say it's positive change.
the changes may be positive, but a lot of it isn't for various reasons. some being that people were complaining about it about a year and a half ago, blizzard doesn't listen to feedback until at least halfway through an expac instead of when it matters most, and things being time gated for no reason (see the new "easier" covenant swapping that actually requires that character to have max renown which means that character STILL has to grind renown before they can swap without hassle).
there are plenty of reasons to still be mad.
Because the anti blizzard circle jerking gives more upvotes.
5 minutes of study can tell why people shit on the game
It is both too hard and too easy at the same time
both too grindy and nothing to do at the same time
Too elitist/hardcore and casual at the same time
You can fly or can't fly is both a problem for people at the same time
You can pug or you have to be with guilds at the same time
M+ exists but also M+ doesn't reward enough at the same time
Mythic Exists or Lower difficulties exist at the same time.
Simply put no matter what people gonna bitch because they want polar opposites in the same game and every single one of those people have to be equally catered to otherwise you fail as a business and a game designer.
I actually think it is even worse in that the alpha/beta showed a car with some issues but none too bad(and since a demo model kinda expected) but oromised not only the car that works pretty well but extras as well.
Theeen they give you something worse then the demo model
I am btw referring to alpha/beta torghast everyone praised and todays choreghast
I don't care about Wow 11.0, if it's not solo-MMO. No half-measures - just perfect xpack.