You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
People do it to show it to other groups that they've done a +15 to get into other M+ groups to cheat the scoring system (or raider.io before Blizzard implemented their own) that's why. It's a catch-22: can't get into M+10-15 group without having the score, but can't get the score without getting into a M+10-15 group either.
The thing is you don't even get that much score if you don't time it, if you just have to slog through it then you can probably find plenty of groups at the end of the week. It's just flat out weird to me to drop 20 bucks for that. Though I guess technically 20 bucks for 4 people for half an hour of their time is kinda a shit wage as well. You are better of working normally..lol.
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
21 pages of some MMOC thread…
Meanwhile in Irvine, CA: „muhahahaha…“
Since BfA there was a clear distinction between timed and not, that was also easily trackable via armory API. Since 9.1 it may be a bit more muddled if you just go by the ingame score, since an untimed dungeon gives score as well, but considerably less. Every dungeon in tyrannic and fortified weeks seperately count towards a total. If you just look at the total it might be less obvious, but it's still kinda weird. I'm not sure if pugs use the ingame score or rio though, as I don't flagellate myself by running pugs.
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
So.. is there a chance that if you buy an untimed run you might end up timing it anyway, or is that strictly out of the question? I'm really trying to understand why people would go that far (especially if it's related to token levels, which implies they paid the 20 bucks).
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
Depends on the group... usually its timed regardless as they put people with the highest io together possible to ensure success. That said there are tiers of booster. 1800/1950/2150/2300 if I'm recalling right... would have to check when I'm off I dont have discord on my phone.
A majority of the buyers come from br realms.
That kinda makes it worse, since they practically have to pay more for less there.
But I guess it makes sense if "untimed" means you might still time it with a reasonablly high chance. If you are at least somewhat competent, then you can at least use it to fill out some of your missing runs and end up with some added value or keystone mastery eventually.
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
Well this thread sure ran out of steam
We're all newbs, some are just more newbier than others.
Just a burned out hardcore raider turned casual.
I'm tired. So very tired. Can I just lay my head on your lap and fall asleep?
#TeamFuckEverything
That's only because FF14 players haven't gotten onto the hate bandwagon circlejerk that everything the company that runs the game does is done for some nefarious purpose not because they want to make a good game. Blizz and FF14 can do the same stuff and the former will be vilified for it.
The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.
Feel free to ignore any nuance of the argument all you want, that doesn't change the fact that the reasons people dislike the Warcraft shop and not the FF14 one matter.Yeah no. If you're a FF14 fan and criticise Blizzard for cash shop items you're a gigantic hypocrite.
Also I find it funny that disingenuous actors like yourself seem to think people are 100% okay with the FF14 shop. People are just less offended by it because, shocker, again the differences between SE & Blizzard, WoW & FF14, the items on each shop and where the money of the shop goes actually matters in the discussion.
I guess you can go to Mr. Gm or Taliesin and Evitel if you want to just blindly bitch about hypocrisies without context.
The amount of people who use gold versus real money is laughably miniscule. And also ignores that you can pay for tokens or whatever with gold all you want, but real money is exchanged at some point in the acquisition and usage of every token.
So you're either delusional or lying.
Last edited by Drindorai; 2021-11-21 at 06:08 AM.