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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Hilarious that this was supposed to be a referendum on Newsom, but became one on Trumpism. Republicans are so stupid, considering how unpopular Trumpism is.
    Yep, Trump got more votes than Yes did in this vote. And that is before the January 6th Insurrection, his popularity has only gone down since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    So they'd need like 90% of the remaining vote or thereabouts to recall?
    It's about 70-75%. But exit polls are still going majority for "No".

    So yeah, that 75% ain't happening.


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  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    NBC just called it, 67% for No.
    ahh thanks nytimes is a bit slower.

  4. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    It's about 70-75%. But exit polls are still going majority for "No".

    So yeah, that 75% ain't happening.
    Yeah, MSNBC already called it.

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    CNN has called it: recall failed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    CNN has called it: recall failed.
    NYTimes just followed suit.


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    Ya'll in CA need to get rid of this recall shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Ya'll in CA need to get rid of this recall shit.
    At the very least, it needs to be heavily reformed so it has a higher threshold required to trigger a recall.
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  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Ya'll in CA need to get rid of this recall shit.
    I think the idea of having a way for the citizens to remove someone from office like this is fine, but the implementation is godawful. People have said it before, but it should probably be a two-step process...or at the very least have "no" votes count towards the person who is being recalled on the 2nd question.

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    That was a brutal beating - 67 - 32. Better than his 2018 victory - 61 - 38. I guess the number can still shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    That was a brutal beating - 67 - 32. Better than his 2018 victory - 61 - 38. I guess the number can still shift.
    It will definitely shift more towards "Yes". Just not enough at this point to get close to 50%. It'll be another ~10 days before the final numbers are in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I think the idea of having a way for the citizens to remove someone from office like this is fine, but the implementation is godawful. People have said it before, but it should probably be a two-step process...or at the very least have "no" votes count towards the person who is being recalled on the 2nd question.
    Non-confidence votes are the kind of standard Democratic process that it's crazy the USA doesn't have more such systems in place as it is.

    But yeah; the usual process is that a non-confidence vote passes, and then​ a new election happens. Combining the two is just . . . weird.


  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I think the idea of having a way for the citizens to remove someone from office like this is fine, but the implementation is godawful. People have said it before, but it should probably be a two-step process...or at the very least have "no" votes count towards the person who is being recalled on the 2nd question.
    Idea might be fine, but any implementation someone will game the system and abuse it. Just another way to kneecap governance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Idea might be fine, but any implementation someone will game the system and abuse it. Just another way to kneecap governance.
    Maybe. But changing the requirements to trigger a recall in the first place would be the way to address something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Maybe. But changing the requirements to trigger a recall in the first place would be the way to address something like that.
    I guess I just don't have any faith in anything like it, since we got one party trying to destroy democracy and turn the country into an autocracy. If we had two functioning parties...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    If we had two functioning parties...
    If we had more than two, we might not have to deal with as much of this bullshit period. But we'd need to change a lot more about our elections than recalls for that to be the case.

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    It's not really shocking that a state like California wouldn't let their state go to a Trump backed libertarian. a used lawnmower would have had better chance. though even a blow out like this can't stop republicans from further undermining free elections even when they seem to be so inept they jump the trigger (a whole day????) before the counting even starts. but it sure seems to fire the base up, so no reason from their point of view to keep towing that line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Idea might be fine, but any implementation someone will game the system and abuse it. Just another way to kneecap governance.
    It'd be pretty straightforward with having to hold another entire election should a recall pass wherein a candidate has to have 51% of the vote.

    Also, the vote total required to initiate a recall should be like 25% of the votes cast in the previous election. 12% is ridiculously easy.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    It will be nice to put this expensive waste of time in the rear view mirror. Now hopefully Newsom can take unpopular but necessary actions without worrying about an imminent recall.
    /s

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    At the very least, it needs to be heavily reformed so it has a higher threshold required to trigger a recall.
    I'm less worried about triggering the recall and more worried about the fact that it only requires a plurality to win if the recall goes through.

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