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    Larry Elder says Slave Owners should be the ones owed reparations

    Yes you heard that right, Larry Elder the front runner in the California recall election(who is black by the way) says that if anyone should be owed reparations it should be slave owners and not the slaves. While appearing on Candace Owens(who is also black) radio show they talked about reparations and that because their "legal property" was taken from them that slave owners should have been paid reparations. Not the the thousands upon thousands of slaves who's forebearers were taken from their homes, packed so tightly onto ships they could barely move, sold like cattle, forcibly bred with one another to make strong babies, women and girls raped by their masters, beaten/killed if they tried to escape and finally worked until their dying breath. Ya those people don't deserve any reparations but the people who did all that to them totally deserve it.

    So beyond the fact that Larry Elder is the living embodiment of Samuel L. Jackson's character Stephen from Quentin Taratino's Django Unchained there are other reasons that Larry Elder is a piece of crap. He believes that minimum wage should be gotten rid of(real surprise there with his views on slavery) and that all Covid restrictions should be removed and no one should need to get a vaccine because well over 660 thousand Americans and growing dead is not a really big deal. He probably has other beliefs and traits that make him a horrible politician but these three are enough for me to never vote for him.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/larry-eld...000601872.html

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    Recall Front-Runner Larry Elder Says He’s a Libertarian and ‘I Don’t Have Horns’

    “The biggest challenge in California in general is the intrusiveness of government,” he said. “I believe that a government that governs less governs best.”

    Hence his views on the minimum wage (there shouldn’t be one), pregnancy discrimination prohibitions in the workplace (leave it to the market), public welfare programs (it encourages “women to marry the government”), public schools (he prefers school vouchers), state-funded health insurance programs (“you need to have competition”) and recreational drugs (he supports legalization).

    Likewise, climate change activists and conservationists are “environmental extremists,” the reformist district attorneys in Los Angeles and San Francisco are “soft on crime” and safety net programs pushed by Democrats represent “an attack on the nuclear family.”

    When selecting a judge or justice, he would model his selection on self-described originalists like Clarence Thomas and the late-Antonin Scalia.

    And for the state Board of Education? “Somebody who has the same philosophy as the former Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos,” he said.


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    Seems to me we have a couple posters here that reflect the same ideology.

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    Sure, it's disgusting, but honestly are we supposed to expect any more from the GOP?

    It is funny that Candace Owens is in the habit of calling other people "race hustlers," though. Given her choice of profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    So beyond the fact that Larry Elder is the living embodiment of Samuel L. Jackson's character Stephen from Quentin Taratino's Django Unchained there are other reasons that Larry Elder is a piece of crap. He believes that minimum wage should be gotten rid of(real surprise there with his views on slavery) and that all Covid restrictions should be removed and no one should need to get a vaccine because well over 660 thousand Americans and growing dead is not a really big deal. He probably has other beliefs and traits that make him a horrible politician but these three are enough for me to never vote for him.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/larry-eld...000601872.html
    Well, here's the thing. Sam Jack's character in DU actually made some sense. Sure, he was a slave...but he was a slave in a comfortable position with no better options that he could see. He lived his entire life as a slave and this was as good as it got for him. Now, I'm not arguing that Stephen wasn't a piece of shit...but his situation is somewhat understandable in the context of his living conditions. Elder's got no excuse.

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    First of all:


    Second:
    "legal property" was taken from them that slave owners should have been paid reparations.
    Slave owners did receive reparations. Slaves didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    Yes you heard that right, Larry Elder the front runner in the California recall election(who is black by the way) says that if anyone should be owed reparations it should be slave owners and not the slaves. While appearing on Candace Owens(who is also black) radio show they talked about reparations and that because their "legal property" was taken from them that slave owners should have been paid reparations. Not the the thousands upon thousands of slaves who's forebearers were taken from their homes, packed so tightly onto ships they could barely move, sold like cattle, forcibly bred with one another to make strong babies, women and girls raped by their masters, beaten/killed if they tried to escape and finally worked until their dying breath. Ya those people don't deserve any reparations but the people who did all that to them totally deserve it.

    So beyond the fact that Larry Elder is the living embodiment of Samuel L. Jackson's character Stephen from Quentin Taratino's Django Unchained there are other reasons that Larry Elder is a piece of crap. He believes that minimum wage should be gotten rid of(real surprise there with his views on slavery) and that all Covid restrictions should be removed and no one should need to get a vaccine because well over 660 thousand Americans and growing dead is not a really big deal. He probably has other beliefs and traits that make him a horrible politician but these three are enough for me to never vote for him.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/larry-eld...000601872.html
    He is also on a platform owned by Chinese billionaires. Which is rather ironic, considering that Republicans hate the Chinese. Don't tell them that though, they really hate it when you point out facts that they are believing a Chinese propagandist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    @Machismo so, how’s that Libertarian ideology sitting with you?
    Dude's okay with seniors and children going hungry...this isn't gonna phase him. He'll say some shit about how he doesn't believe in slavery....but he'll agree that slaves were property and that their owners deserved restitution for that lost property.
    Last edited by Egomaniac; 2021-09-06 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I want a response from a “rigid libertarian” like @Machismo.
    Think he's in timeout right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Dude's okay with seniors and children going hungry...this isn't gonna phase him. He'll say some shit about how he doesn't believe in slavery....but he'll agree that slaves were property and that their owners deserved restitution for that lost property.
    He wouldn't be the first or the last.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I want a response from a “rigid libertarian” like @Machismo.
    Well, he's still on his mandatory MMO-C Vacation. So I'm roleplaying. That's what, in my assessment, his feelings would be on this matter. He'll play lip service to how slavery is terrible and completely incompatible with libertarianism... but yeah, slavers had their property taken from them and that's bad too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I feel bad for anyone who willingly role-plays a libertarian. It’s gotta be rough.
    It's super easy...barely an inconvenience. All I have to do is pretend not to give a fuck about anyone other than myself and it all flows naturally from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    It's super easy...barely an inconvenience. All I have to do is pretend not to give a fuck about anyone other than myself and it all flows naturally from there.
    "I'm the centre of the universe, and I'm going to imagine my perfect world where I can do whatever I want to the NPCs around me. They, of course, won't do anything bad to me even though the lack of rules mean that they could, because why would they want to do that?"

    I think that's about it.
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    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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    It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The plan needs work.

    Love,
    Rand Paul’s ribs
    *Still in Libertarian Cosplay*

    Sounds like something an NPC would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Slave owners did receive reparations. Slaves didn't.
    As far as I can see that was just in a few places. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compen...#United_States

    I'm not saying that they should have been paid - only that most weren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Don't worry, he'll come back and be sure to reply. Dude literally can't help himself.
    If for no other reason than to tell us how we've got him all wrong...and then following it up with arguments that prove we were right.

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    The logic isn't even particularly fucking good. Can easily turn that around, and say that the government (who upheld the legality of slavery), took away the legal property of slaves, their very being and independence, and hence the capacity to use said property to use it for manual labour that you can then sell as a "good" to a plantation owner.

    It is an immensely shit stance, but equally so also completely kneecapped by its own logic.
    Formerly Howeller, lost my account.

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    Eh, it actually happened in D.C., actual reparations were paid out to some slave owners for their " loss of property "

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    Its a good thing these candidates are so vile, the recall election has been a huge inconvenience. It could be a lot worse, but hopefully "inconvenience" will be the end of it since many people would rather stay the course than invite such a level of villainy to power. Big thanks to Florida and Texas for showing what a disastrous GOP government can do and hopefully helping us avoid the same.
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    Stop giving clowns free press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    “I believe that a government that governs less governs best.”
    By that logic fucking Somalia should be paradise on earth.

    Also this logic is clearly never applied to women for example, as when it comes to women, their best government will literally climb into your uterus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Stop giving clowns free press.
    If the clowns are going to use that press to say things like "Slave Owners should be the ones to get reparations"...I'm happy to give them all the press they want.

    When your opponent is in a hole and digging...why would you want to take away his shovel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    By that logic fucking Somalia should be paradise on earth.

    Also this logic is clearly never applied to women for example, as when it comes to women, their best government will literally climb into your uterus.
    But just think of how small the government has to be to get up inside there

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