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    Googled him and the first thing that came up was a movie called uncle tom with candice owens. I refuse to learn anymore about this man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    Googled him and the first thing that came up was a movie called uncle tom with candice owens.
    Awkward.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    It can also be that the candidate knows exactly what he wants to cut but doesn't want to actually say it or he just wants to use "small government" as an excuse rather than explain the actual motivations.
    Reminds me os Rick Snyder in Michigan. That shit ass refused to talk about policies, refused to debate, yet we all knew what he wanted to do, just he was never in record admitting to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    cmon man thats not what i said (and im not a dem)



    isnt herman dead? lol
    Yes, died July 30th last year in covid-19; so after the release of the movie.

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    Megyn Kelly is a black conservative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladeXcrasher View Post
    Megyn Kelly is a black conservative?
    Too many of “the blacks” in the film for the base so you need a blue eyed blonde hair white woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    cmon man thats not what i said (and im not a dem)



    isnt herman dead? lol
    Provocative Black Conservative thinkers... including Megyn Kelly
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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Its a good thing these candidates are so vile, the recall election has been a huge inconvenience.
    A huge extremely expensive inconvenience. The final cost was reported as $276 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Is there a secret contest in the GOP to see who can say the most outrageous shit?
    They're letting the disposables push the line further and further. Once they see when their base turns against them, then they know just how far they can go.
    That's been my theory since around 2008. Obama's election, when I turned 30, is when I became active in politics and saw precisely how fuckered up things were becoming on the R side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    The left-wing news feeds I get on Facebook are freaking the fuck out over him, for honestly no reason. I get people need to go out and vote, but this chuckle-head ain't gonna get elected in Cali. The recall is a two-step process. Vote to have the recall, then vote for a replacement (who could still be Newsom).
    This is actually incorrect, which is WHY people are freaking the fuck out. The recall is a one-step process with two questions:
    1) Should Newsom be recalled?
    2) If he is, who replaces him?

    The first requires a simple majority. But if 50.1% of the votes are Yes, then the second only requires a plurality (and Newsom himself is ineligible, having just been recalled). With Larry Elder being the apparent GOP favorite, he could very easily win with as little as 16% of the vote so long as the other 84% is split between the other forty-five candidates.

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    A movie with a guy who believes slave owners deserve reparations, a woman who thinks racism doesn't exist, and a clown who died after adamantly claiming COVID-19 wasn't that bad. I didn't know Idiocracy had a sequel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    This is actually incorrect, which is WHY people are freaking the fuck out. The recall is a one-step process with two questions:
    1) Should Newsom be recalled?
    2) If he is, who replaces him?

    The first requires a simple majority. But if 50.1% of the votes are Yes, then the second only requires a plurality (and Newsom himself is ineligible, having just been recalled). With Larry Elder being the apparent GOP favorite, he could very easily win with as little as 16% of the vote so long as the other 84% is split between the other forty-five candidates.
    CA loves it's confusing direct democracy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    With Larry Elder being the apparent GOP favorite, he could very easily win with as little as 16% of the vote so long as the other 84% is split between the other forty-five candidates.
    Which is why threads and posts that take his obvious bait and give the guy more air/talk time then he deserves are counter-productive and play into his hands. It's insane that we haven't learned this lesson after Trump won a federal election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    CA loves it's confusing direct democracy...
    Oh, this inane process only exists with recalls, not normal elections. The process was instituted about a hundred years ago, and the original bill did provide for two separate elections (one for the recall, one for the replacement) before being combined into one, and while it's not entirely clear why that change was made the general assumption is that it was for the sake of cost and convenience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Which is why threads and posts that take his obvious bait and give the guy more air/talk time then he deserves are counter-productive and play into his hands. It's insane that we haven't learned this lesson after Trump won a federal election.
    Honestly, I find it very difficult to agree here. The media was largely ignoring him until very recently, when polling showed a very real chance that the recall would succeed and he would win. After focusing on how horrible his policies are and how likely it is that he would win due to voter apathy (as recalls historically have very low turn-out, especially from the governor's own party), polling has swung wildly in the other direction to the point that even Vegas betting odds are solidly against a successful recall.

    The ratio of "the media reports Larry Elder verbatim" to "commentary on how completely batshit insane he is and how much we need to not risk that shit" has been pretty good here.

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    Is the CA Recall the Trolley Problem for the PodCaster set?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    This is actually incorrect, which is WHY people are freaking the fuck out. The recall is a one-step process with two questions:
    1) Should Newsom be recalled?
    2) If he is, who replaces him?

    The first requires a simple majority. But if 50.1% of the votes are Yes, then the second only requires a plurality (and Newsom himself is ineligible, having just been recalled). With Larry Elder being the apparent GOP favorite, he could very easily win with as little as 16% of the vote so long as the other 84% is split between the other forty-five candidates.
    Ah my mistake, shoulda googled rather than going off memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Ah my mistake, shoulda googled rather than going off memory.
    It happens. You might also have been thinking of the regular election taking place next year, in which whoever wins the recall would still have to run again and someone like Larry Elder would easily lose (possibly to Gavin Newsom, who could still run to get his old job back) and get kicked to the curb. The problem is that even with a Democratic super majority in the state legislature, there's a lot of damage that could still be done with a year and change in office. Damage like removing all of our Covid mitigations. Or replacing Senator Diane Feinstein if she dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Honestly, I find it very difficult to agree here. The media was largely ignoring him until very recently, when polling showed a very real chance that the recall would succeed and he would win. After focusing on how horrible his policies are and how likely it is that he would win due to voter apathy (as recalls historically have very low turn-out, especially from the governor's own party), polling has swung wildly in the other direction to the point that even Vegas betting odds are solidly against a successful recall.

    The ratio of "the media reports Larry Elder verbatim" to "commentary on how completely batshit insane he is and how much we need to not risk that shit" has been pretty good here.
    I put very little stock in polling data that doesn't come from Pew, but I hope you're right.
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  19. #79
    Here is another reason to not support Elder, besides his fucking dumbass racism. He wants to replace Diane Feinstein with Stephen Miller if she dies.

    https://www.wonkette.com/next-possib...stephen-miller

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    I do think Elder is good for Newsom. It gives him somebody to run against.

    According to the latest count, 25% of eligible voters had already mailed their votes in. That is not good news for the GOP.

    Newsom may be a smarmy kind of guy, but ultimately, with the exception of the French Laundry thing, he has done okay.

    Unlike during Gray Davis' governorship, the state does not have a budget crisis. In fact it has a budget surplus and ever increasing revenue.

    No energy crisis either. No rolling blackouts for at least 2 decades. No, 2020 does not count as rolling blackout. It was limited to 2 million customers in Northern California, and lasted only one hour on Friday and minutes on Saturday.

    As for Covid, by any metrics (case number, hospitalization, death and economy) California is doing a lot better than the other 3 large states.

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