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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    This is fucking mmo-champion. Not Blizzard-champion.
    Uh huh and what have they posted about in the past X years? Blizz stuff. They used to post about other MMOs but never that much and as WoW crushed those games it became kinda pointless I guess? Speak to the people that make those choices. But the 'other' MMOs don't have much attention in their forums/threads. You want to talk FF I can link you to the FF section, it isn't very active though.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Uh huh and what have they posted about in the past X years? Blizz stuff. They used to post about other MMOs but never that much and as WoW crushed those games it became kinda pointless I guess? Speak to the people that make those choices. But the 'other' MMOs don't have much attention in their forums/threads. You want to talk FF I can link you to the FF section, it isn't very active though.
    It's not active because of people like you who feel the need to say negatives things about FFXIV every chance you get. When threads get invaded every single time they are posted and mods do next to nothing about it, people don't want to post anymore. Furthermore, there's as much going on with FFXIV as WoW. This site will post every little piece of nonsense about WoW even when it's trivial and pretty much nobody cares. Yet you think that actual important information that is officially posted about FFXIV on their site isn't good enough to report on here, an MMO site? Ok.

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    Sure, but it's true and humorous.

    Also most weebs get it
    Anime is a word that specifically refers to japanese animation. Calling King of the Hill anime is just wrong.

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    It's not active because of people like you who feel the need to say negatives things about FFXIV every chance you get. When threads get invaded every single time they are posted and mods do next to nothing about it, people don't want to post anymore. Furthermore, there's as much going on with FFXIV as WoW. This site will post every little piece of nonsense about WoW even when it's trivial and pretty much nobody cares. Yet you think that actual important information that is officially posted about FFXIV on their site isn't good enough to report on here, an MMO site? Ok.
    Are you like not reading what I'm saying? I even said I've played FF off and on and enjoyed it here and there. You are just trying to pick a fight because you cannot debate the facts provided.

    You want FF info you likely won't find it on this website and with good reason. There are places to go and find it. Go try FF-champion or FFhead or something? I'm sure their forums are active about the blessed game that has crushed WoW and caused it to shut down. Lolz. Oh wait, FF was the game that had to shut down for almost a year. Whoops.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    The site is for mmorpgs in general
    No. The off topic forums are for mmorpgs in general. Fhe front page is for World of Warcraft, Heroes of the Storm, or Overwatch. It's a Blizzard fansite, not an MMO fansite.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by AryuFate View Post
    Start planning for the future and hire someone to update MMO-C with FFXIV news.
    MMO-C is primarily WoW. Also - 30th September 2010 is barely more 'future' than WoW.

    Due to COVID-19, Germany is running out of sausages and cheese.
    The government considers this to be the Wurst Käse scenario

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    The only reason FFXIV isn't on the front page is likely because the people in charge only care about WoW, seemingly. They don't care how tremendously successful FFXIV is.

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    FFXIV realized their problems and relaunched with a far superior product. WoW has been going for 16 years and never tries to be better even after insane amounts of backlash.
    Final Fantasy started because FFXI was a "failure"(was able to make back its costs and make some money but not enough for them) so they already started making XIV in like 2005 and it failed so bad they had to redo it. I'd say needing to start over twice and having a decade or two of development be a waste goes to show what's clearly the superior product. It may not be what you like but clearly enough people do that Blizzard hasn't needed to do a WoW2.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Then go to a FF fan site, FF reddit or elsewhere to get it? There isn't much to discuss when it comes to FF.
    Yeah, imagine the audacity of these people thinking MMO-champion should cover one of the most popular MMOs. I dont understand how these people think. It makes no sense.

    Btw. Why does the ffxiv reddit have a ton more daily active users, daily posts and daily threads compared to the wow reddit if there is nothing to discuss?

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    Yeah, imagine the audacity of these people thinking MMO-champion should cover one of the most popular MMOs. I dont understand how these people think. It makes no sense.
    Weird, remember when MMO-champ used to cover other MMOs? I do. Wasn't a lot of traffic for those games. It could be turned around that the 'champion' of MMOs is a certain game that has been covered for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    Btw. Why does the ffxiv reddit have a ton more daily active users, daily posts and daily threads compared to the wow reddit if there is nothing to discuss?
    Maybe because unlike FF there are multiple avenues and reddits for Wow? Wowhead, mmo-champ, specific reddits such as wow economy and other split wow reddits. Did you go add all of that together? No? Oh. Maybe you should do that before trying to spout 'facts'.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    I think the reality is there arent enough people working for the website to do updates for more than just the games we have now. Could be wrong.
    Sure, and thats fine, but it probably wouldnt be hard to get someone to do it for free. That is before considering stuff like, is it even worth posting HotS updates? It is pretty much a dead game. Not to mention that there is a lot of stuff you could do without having front page news, like giving proper forum support with multiple different subforums for different parts of the game.

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Weird, remember when MMO-champ used to cover other MMOs? I do. Wasn't a lot of traffic for those games. It could be turned around that the 'champion' of MMOs is a certain game that has been covered for years.
    So a non argument? Why should MMO-champion not cover one of the top, if not the top MMO currently out there?



    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Maybe because unlike FF there are multiple avenues and reddits for Wow? Wowhead, mmo-champ, specific reddits such as wow economy and other split wow reddits. Did you go add all of that together? No? Oh. Maybe you should do that before trying to spout 'facts'.
    Yeah, FF has no other fansites or ways to leave comments other than ffxiv main reddit page. Lmao. Grasping straws much?

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    Sure, and thats fine, but it probably wouldnt be hard to get someone to do it for free. That is before considering stuff like, is it even worth posting HotS updates? It is pretty much a dead game. Not to mention that there is a lot of stuff you could do without having front page news, like giving proper forum support with multiple different subforums for different parts of the game.
    That would require them to get more moderators...and they're already stretched thin on that front.

    The HotS updates, as I understand it are made by one guy that still plays HotS.

    If MMO-C tried to add in FFXIV support...it would just end up being a half-assed effort and people would still be going to other places to get the relevant information.

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    So a non argument? Why should MMO-champion not cover one of the top, if not the top MMO currently out there?
    Maybe they don't want to? Maybe they are being paid by Blizz? Maybe because FF sections of the forum are frankly not very populated and most threads have been stagnant for a long time? Why dosen't 'Wowhead' cover FF stuff? It 'might be the top MMO currently out there. This is a pro-WoW website for good or ill. I don't call the shots here so why ask me such a nonsense question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    Yeah, FF has no other fansites or ways to leave comments other than ffxiv main reddit page. Lmao. Grasping straws much?
    I dunno do they? Do they show off store bought assets to each other? What do they do? Because I don't know of some major FF website like wowhead or mmochamp

  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Maybe they don't want to? Maybe they are being paid by Blizz? Maybe because FF sections of the forum are frankly not very populated and most threads have been stagnant for a long time? Why dosen't 'Wowhead' cover FF stuff? It 'might be the top MMO currently out there. This is a pro-WoW website for good or ill. I don't call the shots here so why ask me such a nonsense question.
    Did you consider that the idea that the FF section is not very populated is because it has basically no support? FF discussion is thriving everywhere else, why could it not do so here?

    Why are you so afraid of the idea of posting news about other MMOs then?


    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    I dunno do they? Do they show off store bought assets to each other? What do they do? Because I don't know of some major FF website like wowhead or mmochamp
    Of course they do. It has a lot more than WoW has due to it having so much content for different communities, so there end up being a lot of specialised websites for certain communities. There are websites dedicated for everything. Not to mention that in the modern day, one of the biggest sources of places were players talk and share information nowadays is community discord servers, something that ffxiv also has a ton of.

    The idea that there is nothing to discuss about ffxiv just reeks of ignorance.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    Did you consider that the idea that the FF section is not very populated is because it has basically no support? FF discussion is thriving everywhere else, why could it not do so here?
    That goes both ways. Have you considered that the FFXIV section has basically no support because it's not very populated?
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  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    Did you consider that the idea that the FF section is not very populated is because it has basically no support? FF discussion is thriving everywhere else, why could it not do so here?

    Why are you so afraid of the idea of posting news about other MMOs then?
    The FF section has been around for years, it is the fault of the posters in those sections for not discussing the game? If the game needs that much help to generate discussion that is pretty sad.

    They can post it if they want, I'd rather not see it and would want it to have its own header like HotS and OW have so I don't have to see that crap either.

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    While the site is called MMO-Champion, it's very clear the site has always mainly reported on Blizzard games and Blizzard news. Yes there was a time when they tried reporting on other companies games, but it wasn't very successful.

    Also stop being so anal about the websites name when it's clear it was made primarily for World of Warcraft.

    And as others have pointed out already, reporting on another major MMO would mean additional staff, and I doubt the owners of the site would be interested in that, especially when there are enough other sites reporting on FF14 stuff (probably).
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  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Milfshaked View Post
    Of course they do. It has a lot more than WoW has due to it having so much content for different communities, so there end up being a lot of specialised websites for certain communities. There are websites dedicated for everything. Not to mention that in the modern day, one of the biggest sources of places were players talk and share information nowadays is community discord servers, something that ffxiv also has a ton of.

    The idea that there is nothing to discuss about ffxiv just reeks of ignorance.
    The idea that there is nothing to discuss about WoW just reeks of ignorance. Or arrogance. See it can be spun right back at you. Shocking.

    You act like FF is bigger than WoW now, well it isn't on this website. Stop trying to change this website to be what you want. Go to some FF specialized website or the Final Fantasy section of these forums. Don't force it upon people who don't want to see it?

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    Overwatch+hots get places, and theres arguably less news.

    Plot summaries, guides, news about world firsts, community news/events, etc. Lots of potential!
    Ill generally agree that HotS shouldnt be a focus anymore -- but on the secondary part, outside of world firsts/events/dates/etc.....the rest is kind of pointless. Why guides or plot summaries? That isnt even stuff that is posted on front page for WoW usually.

    To me that just sounds like there isnt a lot of news that can be posted on FF14 and instead transform it into a lite-Reddit. If we want to give things that would give more credence to FF14 -- then we sure as hell should give that same treatment to WoW.
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  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    That goes both ways. Have you considered that the FFXIV section basically has no support is because it's not very populated?
    It doesnt. It is rather obvious which comes first. Population comes after support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    The idea that there is nothing to discuss about WoW just reeks of ignorance. Or arrogance. See it can be spun right back at you. Shocking.

    You act like FF is bigger than WoW now, well it isn't on this website. Stop trying to change this website to be what you want. Go to some FF specialized website or the Final Fantasy section of these forums. Don't force it upon people who don't want to see it?
    I never said that there is nothing to discuss about WoW. You are making a fool out of yourself. I am the one arguing for the website called MMO-champion to support more MMOs. I am not arguing for them to stop supporting wow. It is pretty obvious that there is a lot to discuss about a lot of games.

    You seem utterly terrified of the idea of having more than 1 MMO on the site called MMO-champion. Why are you so against this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Final Fantasy started because FFXI was a "failure"(was able to make back its costs and make some money but not enough for them) so they already started making XIV in like 2005 and it failed so bad they had to redo it. I'd say needing to start over twice and having a decade or two of development be a waste goes to show what's clearly the superior product. It may not be what you like but clearly enough people do that Blizzard hasn't needed to do a WoW2.
    Umm...FFXI was such a massive success for them it literally saved the company from bankruptcy...FFXIV arr did much the same if i recall right.

    XI is also still running with a sub and despite being in "Maintenance" it still has updates

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