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  1. #81
    I love how fantasy games are no longer going to be allowed to be fantasy based. Everything will soon have to be based off of real life "modern values" which means catering to a small minority group that demand everyone in the world walk on eggshells around them. Like people don't understand that the more you take away, the more you kick and scream, the more you shame, the more bitter and angry people you create who at one point were either neutral or on your side but eventually get tired of the constant "we demand this this and this." "You can't make that joke." "You can't find people attractive." This whole covering up and replacing the women just enforces this awful narrative that women should cover themselves up because men can't control themselves and it's all their fault for showing skin. Like... here's an idea, Blizzard. Stop violating your employees and pay them decent wages. People would rather see that then this bare minimum virtue signaling that everyone knows you don't believe in.

    I was under the impression there was new management? They seem to be doing the same stupid stuff and making the same sort of decisions. I wonder if night elves will have their racial armor removed because it shows skin and be forced to adopt the current western puritanical cultural values. Because you know, the body is a wicked thing we should all be ashamed of and a race that lives for thousands of years finds skin to be an ultra taboo. As if they're unable to mature or have their own values, believes, and customs. Nope. From now on, all current, past and future races will have to reflect the current political agendas and ideals thus turning something that was once a fantasy game in its own universe into a vehicle that preaches what is socially acceptable.

    Soon we won't have any media with any mature content be it violence, sex, drugs, alcohol, complex topics all because those things are always going to be inherently offensive to some and thus nobody is allowed to enjoy and experience them and if you do, you'll be shamed and publicly humiliated. I so love how everyone is just one extreme or the other and god forbid we meet anywhere in the middle.

    And to those that will say these changes "don't really matter" you've clearly not been seeing it happen little by little over the years. I mean, they already went back out and took out the "B word" from the Sylvanas and Garrosh interaction despite it being 100% in character for it to have been said. But hell, damn the narrative, can't say mean things to people anymore, even if they're fictional people in a fictional universe... Now it's achievement names, paintings, more words added to filters despite there being a mature language filter in game you as an adult can toggle on and off. You'll certainly never see updated versions of armor sets like mageweave or anything showing skin/cleavage/thigh/etc for either male or females. Because society repressing those things totally doesn't ultimately prove to be a super bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    So did California invent a time machine and brought back all the nutjobs from 11th century that used to burn witches on the stake or something?
    they're almost there.
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    The loss of the ability to pass on loot is the loss of the ability to choose. This is communism
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    A year from now someone on these forums is gonna say that the (wod) launch went smoothly..... I am gonna remind that asshole of this launch, this shit is not going smoothly at all.

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    Rofl, they replaced a picture of a woman with a bowl of fruit... So progressive! XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    How did you make that train of thought? Since when people complaining automatically mean that they are wrong?
    Context. People acting like the world is ending because they removed one an art asset in a video game are pretty much guaranteed to be wrong. For example look directly under your reply to me "Patch 9.1.5 - wow is officially dead, and blizzard itself killed it" - lol. If the WoW equivalent of a pinup getting removed is that big of a deal to you, it probably wouldn't hurt to touch grass. But this community loves to jump to conclusions even when those conclusions don't make much sense. Like /spit being removed, 100% a cleaning up their image change, nothing to do with the completely fabricated meme of people spitting on boosts in Classic. Nobody was actually doing that past the first 2 days if even then, so there'd be no reason to remove it because of that several months later. Or the mage tower coming back, it was a fun feature of legion and it's coming back with Legion timewalking with watered down rewards. But WoW's social media had to turn it into "Blizz is doing this because game is dead and they're worried." - If that was the case they'd do something that would actually attempt to get people back, not a mage tower with reskins of gear that nobody cares about. Sometimes a fun little feature is just a fun little feature, and this community is just toxic as hell.

    And in this case is the art asset the problem or is it being removed because of who made it / who added it to the game in the first place? If one of the sexual harassers and abusers made the asset or said "Hey you know what Karazhan needs? Scantily clad pinups." I can see Blizzard removing it.

    But yes if you're getting upset because they're removing a static image of covered fake titties that paints a pretty bleak picture about the level of maturity in the community. You can get a better look at covered fake titties on your own characters, you don't have to go to old zones and squint at the wall art. There's obviously a deeper issue with that particular art asset. But I've long given up on there being any hope for the Blizzard community at large to be anything but hysterical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    Context. People acting like the world is ending because they removed one an art asset in a video game are pretty much guaranteed to be wrong. For example look directly under your reply to me "Patch 9.1.5 - wow is officially dead, and blizzard itself killed it" - lol. If the WoW equivalent of a pinup getting removed is that big of a deal to you, it probably wouldn't hurt to touch grass. But this community loves to jump to conclusions even when those conclusions don't make much sense. Like /spit being removed, 100% a cleaning up their image change, nothing to do with the completely fabricated meme of people spitting on boosts in Classic. Nobody was actually doing that past the first 2 days if even then, so there'd be no reason to remove it because of that several months later. Or the mage tower coming back, it was a fun feature of legion and it's coming back with Legion timewalking with watered down rewards. But WoW's social media had to turn it into "Blizz is doing this because game is dead and they're worried." - If that was the case they'd do something that would actually attempt to get people back, not a mage tower with reskins of gear that nobody cares about. Sometimes a fun little feature is just a fun little feature, and this community is just toxic as hell.

    And in this case is the art asset the problem or is it being removed because of who made it / who added it to the game in the first place? If one of the sexual harassers and abusers made the asset or said "Hey you know what Karazhan needs? Scantily clad pinups." I can see Blizzard removing it.

    But yes if you're getting upset because they're removing a static image of covered fake titties that paints a pretty bleak picture about the level of maturity in the community. You can get a better look at covered fake titties on your own characters, you don't have to go to old zones and squint at the wall art. There's obviously a deeper issue with that particular art asset. But I've long given up on there being any hope for the Blizzard community at large to be anything but hysterical.
    You're completely missing the point. The bigger picture is the fact that blizzard is making these changes because they think that men can't handle having fantasy in-game. Additionally they, for some reason believe, that real world implications in their office have anything to do with in-game art. They're essentially promoting women to cover up because dudes can't control themselves. It's a dis to both men and women. It's a fantasy game. They should have spent that time changing and revamping their company policies instead. The point is that there isn't one and they're diverting attention to meaningless and unneeded changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goroxis View Post
    You're completely missing the point. The bigger picture is the fact that blizzard is making these changes because they think that men can't handle having fantasy in-game. Additionally they, for some reason believe, that real world implications in their office have anything to do with in-game art. They're essentially promoting women to cover up because dudes can't control themselves. It's a dis to both men and women. It's a fantasy game. They should have spent that time changing and revamping their company policies instead. The point is that there isn't one and they're diverting attention to meaningless and unneeded changes.
    lol. No. That's YOU manufacturing something to be outraged about. You're projecting your worse case scenario thoughts on to them without having any actual insight into the situation. You're actually making so many wild assumptions and coming to so many baseless conclusions that it's almost comical except it's really not funny.

    Firstly you don't know why they removed this specific art asset. You're assuming, as is a lot of the community, but that assumption doesn't even make sense. There are so many other things in-game worse than this particular art asset, the fact that they're removing it indicates that there's something else about that specific asset that they don't like besides the content. You can mog any female character (or male) to be far more risque than that image. It's much more likely to be an issue of who created the art asset.

    Secondly the people who are developing the game are separate from the people who are running the company and both are separate from the people making minor cosmetic changes, which ties into the third point which is that as a consumer you have no idea what's going on behind the scenes at Blizzard or with Activision. You're assuming that because you haven't seen anything announced that they're not doing anything to change the company behind the scenes.

    And before you get into your bag of anyone disagreeing with you is shilling or white knighting or whatever I think Blizzard is 100% in the wrong and I think CA should fine the everloving shit out of them. I can also simultaneously be against manufactured outrage over an art asset being removed from old content lol.
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  7. #87
    Uhhhhh Blade Flurry?

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    It's hilarious how much character and attitude the original portrait is able to convey with its low resolution art compared to the replacement. Blizzard needs to hire better artists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post



    I wish you realized how sad this sounds lol




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    Indeed it is sad what state blizzard has put the game in, that i'm even thinking of resorting to such things.

    Hopefully they they will revert some of the changes after the backlash.

    "Women should cover up" is not the best of messages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryzeth View Post
    Reading sure is hard, isn't it?

    I knew the second I saw this, that some idiot would get outraged at it. Thank you for not letting me down.
    I think you're the idiot here - he's right - It's a buff in PvP, you know, Arena, where there's usually only 2 or 3 targets?

    I'll paint you a picture, since you can't seem to wrap your head around the math.

    Before, it was 15% per target - lets say 2 targets, since most players play this bracket.

    15 x 2 = 30% increased damage.

    And with this buff:

    18 x 2 = 36% increased damage.

    Math is hard, right? Idiot.
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    Your logic seems to be founded in feels rather than facts. It's really hard to have a rational discussion with that.

  11. #91
    Second outraged idiot, thank you.
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    2) Your post is cringe and not worth replying to.

    Alternatively, if it happens a lot I probably have you blocked due to one of the above things. Thank you.

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    In before the nerf


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