Poll: Should Shadowlands skip 9.3, to make 10.0 come out sooner?

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  1. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Yep, 3 dungeons in 4.3 or 12 boss raid
    12 boss raid that featured ZERO new zones and models apart from Deathwing Hentai Form.

  2. #382
    Implying there is a 9.3 in the works in the first place

  3. #383
    Has there ever been the slightest hint how many patches SL was supposed to have in the first place?

  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by Daronokk View Post
    Implying there is a 9.3 in the works in the first place
    No idea why basically 9/10 people just completely ignore this option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puri View Post
    Has there ever been the slightest hint how many patches SL was supposed to have in the first place?
    Only WoD had just two content patches, every expansion before had either 3 or 4. So 3 was expected, but COVID changed everything I guess.
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  5. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    No idea why basically 9/10 people just completely ignore this option.

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    Only WoD had just two content patches, every expansion before had either 3 or 4. So 3 was expected, but COVID changed everything I guess.
    WoD also had a continent and a raid conspicously missing. Farahlon is one thing to see disappear, but Shattrath just screams that there was more to it that ended up scrapped, not just the fact that the initial presentation says there is a raid there, but also that the story doesnt have a conclusion and is just left awkwardly with an entire city hidden under a forcefield the entire expansion without an explanation.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    No idea why basically 9/10 people just completely ignore this option.
    Normally expansions simply have 3(or 4 even) content patches. People don't ignore it, they simply understand the queston correctly and compare it to a standard expansion. I'm sure when Blizzard put up a concept for the exapnsion they didn't set out to make a "short one". That is not how this works. Inadvertedly if we don't get 9.3 they will have skipped it by the most common sense interpretation of question, even if they already knew this while making 9,1 or late into 9.0.
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  7. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis igneus View Post
    Normally expansions simply have 3(or 4 even) content patches. People don't ignore it, they simply understand the queston correctly and compare it to a standard expansion. I'm sure when Blizzard put up a concept for the exapnsion they didn't set out to make a "short one". That is not how this works. Inadvertedly if we don't get 9.3 they will have skipped it by the most common sense interpretation of question, even if they already knew this while making 9,1 or late into 9.0.
    All of this is true but not for Shadowlands. Shadowlands was developed during the peak of the Corona pandemic. COVID-19 started in February '20, Shadowlands was released 9 months later. Based on this simple fact it's very likely they were already adapting to the situation during development and never considered a 9.3 patch because they knew that they're late and everything will require more time to get finished.
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  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    All of this is true but not for Shadowlands. Shadowlands was developed during the peak of the Corona pandemic. COVID-19 started in February '20, Shadowlands was released 9 months later. Based on this simple fact it's very likely they were already adapting to the situation during development and never considered a 9.3 patch because they knew that they're late and everything will require more time to get finished.
    You are just splitting hairs about what constitutes planning. Even in februrary Blizzard most likely didn't know what to expect for the pandemic, certainly not continous lockdowns. This was also long before people started leaving them due to the poor working conditions that could no longer be supported while lockdowns are in place. By the point where the brunt of it would have hit them they would have laid out plans for the expansion already.

    I think the most likely period for course correction was during the development of 9.1, because the base game shows clear signs of their initial goals of "expansion long systems" while in 9.1 this has already been cut down by giving us extra conduit ranks past the normal iLvl progression, introducing new systems (dom shards), etc.
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

  9. #389
    I placed my vote on yes and think they should just go straight 9.6, skip 9.3 to 9.5

  10. #390
    What good is alpha/beta if they dont listen

  11. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis igneus View Post
    You are just splitting hairs about what constitutes planning. Even in februrary Blizzard most likely didn't know what to expect for the pandemic, certainly not continous lockdowns. This was also long before people started leaving them due to the poor working conditions that could no longer be supported while lockdowns are in place. By the point where the brunt of it would have hit them they would have laid out plans for the expansion already.

    I think the most likely period for course correction was during the development of 9.1, because the base game shows clear signs of their initial goals of "expansion long systems" while in 9.1 this has already been cut down by giving us extra conduit ranks past the normal iLvl progression, introducing new systems (dom shards), etc.
    Yeah and 9.1 was already in development during peak Coronavirus. Maybe there were initial plans or ideas for 9.3, but nothing really worthwile in 2020. So it would have been easy to just scrap an entire patch or just combine something like 9.2 and 9.3 instead of having them separate. What I want to say: there was enough time to axe 9.3 before they actually started working and wasting manpower on it.
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  12. #392
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiffums View Post
    Why would Blizzard care what the flavor of the month game does? FOTM players are going to bounce around games anyways. They always come back play the patch and then leave.
    Your statement has no validity, I stopped playing WoW in BFA and I never came back for Shadowlands and I never will (long time WoW player who's played since launch). I have no loyalty to this shit company any longer as their content is so subpar. I've been active in FFXIV since it launched also playing both games side by side. FFXIV is vastly superior in every way possible. The only reason I kept subbed to WoW was nostalgia and attachment to my main.

  13. #393
    I would say no if they are smart enough to abandon the broken parts of their game...

    The 9.3 patch needs to give players max renowned, max conduits, and player crafted sockets on launch day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raamul View Post
    No Has blizz ever revealed their planned patch schedule? That don't want to give that sort of commitment to the community
    Much less if they actually had planned SL to end with 9.2
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    It's not really retconning though. There's plenty we didn't know from WC3 - a story which is just about 20 years old. The Jailer is the backbone of that story.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    It's interesting how a character that didn't exist back then could be the backbone of the story. Guess that story must have been an invertebrate then.

  15. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by Raamul View Post
    No Has blizz ever revealed their planned patch schedule? That don't want to give that sort of commitment to the community
    Well yes? Pretty much every single time, at least the amount of raid tiers were hinted directly when the addon was announced (Legion), or was hinted early on for example in BFA when they announced that Azshara will not be the final raid boss.

  16. #396
    Funny enough, up to this day 9.2 hasn't even been specifically mentioned yet.
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    I said yes because I'm bias'd and watched the tali/evi video so - idk I think 9.2 or 9.2.5 should be the end of SL.. as sad as it sounds - I like SLs but I think its possible that they have merged the patches and we may only have one last raid left of the expac

  18. #398
    I really hope they skip 9.3 and just decide to cut their losses with this xpac... it would be a win-win for everyone <3
    change can't wait.

  19. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiffums View Post
    At the moment and it took them from 2013 to get there.
    Ff14 went up over last 8 years and WoW went down. Generally a line trending up is better than a line trending down, but what do I know.

  20. #400
    How realistic would it be for Shadowlands to last till 2023? Thats where the game is heading if they are doing a 9.3

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