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  • Warlords of Draenor was the most enjoyable of the 3

    294 52.97%
  • Battle for Azeroth was the most enjoyable of the 3

    134 24.14%
  • Shadowlands was/is still the most enjoyable of the 3

    127 22.88%
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  1. #81
    I will say though in SL's favor, much like BFA, reviewing through my old screenshots is fun to remind myself of some of the little moments. <3

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    Sylvanas will just give her own head to Tyrande.
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    And just like the thread before it, let's back away from sexualizing Azshara and return to the original topic at hand.

  2. #82
    WoD suffers greatly from the missing raid tier.

    But the features were great. I enjoyed the Garrison, despite how much of its potential was underused. The quests were compelling. The raids were nice. It was the first time they went hard on the amount of great cinematics. And I really loved a lot of those zone concepts.

    I enjoyed the Azerite, Old God and Saurfang stuff of BfA, the model updates were awesome, but the faction conflict, and the "mystery" they tried to build around Sylvanas, and the Horde once again as villain, just took away from things.

    Shadowlands is fine. I like it. It really is gorgeous. I like the themes. But they tried to milk the "mystery" more. They only showed us 5 realms. It's too early to tell, but I think it'll score just a little lower than the others.

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    BFA; the worst because I found nothing redeemable in it except how cool some of the zones were, even though leveling in them was somewhere between tedious and unbearable.

    Warlords second worst because it had decent leveling and since I did not raid, this expansion stopped having any fun at max level.

    Shadowlands was not bad in leveling but not great, the end game was a mixed bag of some fun in Torghast with friends on voice chat and the most annoying crap in the Maw. The covenants was just another thrown together time sink grind so no fun to find in that. I actually had a little fun in LFR but I actually had to look up the dungeons to try to remember them and they are not worth remembering. Legendaries are another unfun time sink with no fun reward at the end, so a continuation of the Wod, Legion, BFA experience. Overall Shadowlands could have been redeemed, but was not and that was the straw that broke the players loyalty back.
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    It’s too soon to tell with SLands because the expansion isn’t yet over.

  5. #85
    WoD was by far the worst of the 3. Every single expansion wow has ever had can be summed up with

    Level>gear>grind>raid log.

    Post wod has m+ to actually play the game past the first month.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    It’s too soon to tell with SLands because the expansion isn’t yet over.
    It is for most who tried it out though. First impressions really do matter and SL's were really bad, never seen a drop off like this since in fact WoD.

    BFA was my choice here, I only lasted a month or 2 in WoD but spent tons of time messing around with allied races in BFA so at least it had something to keep me going. SL on the other hand feels empty? Not sure how to describe SL but sterile or annoying would be a good start I guess.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Echocho View Post
    WOD obviously. It was before Ion took over and this systems driven design mess began.
    Anyone who complains about "systems" doesn't understand the purpose or that they're basically just skipping steps that they had to manually do historically.

  8. #88
    For me it was Warlords of Draenor. Despite its absurd lack of content, the major issues of the expansion didn't affect me all that much. I know what I like to do in my games, and though Warlords of Draenor didn't have a lot to do, the content it had was very good, specifically raids and leveling. It also did not have any arbitrary systems or specific, dumb grinds other than the legendary ring. In Legion, I hated grinding Artifact power and I hated the legendary drop system and the level zones were dreadful, I did like Suramar and the raids though, for the most part, but class gameplay was a bit gimped because of artifacts and legendaries being necessary for complete class gameplay.

    I hated BFA almost as much as Shadowlands. Azerite power sucked, Azerite traits sucked, farming the necklace powers also sucked, because someone though it would be fun to regrind the same power, with completely identical content on your alts, and I utterly despised visions. Didn't enjoy the raids all that much, though I didn't give them much of a chance, as BFA was the only expansion where I lost all interest in the raiding.

    Shadowlands, pretty much has every single issue BFA had, but worse. And it's taken too long to fix anything.

    My biggest gripes comes from the fact I am an Altoholic, I like trying out different specs and classes, I think that's fun, but the grinds from Legion, to BFA to Shadowlands, and the so called "Meaningful choices," just became worse and worse. No, I don't want to do the same Covenant campaign 5 times for each covenant. Feeling 'locked' into a covenant that feels good for one spec, but bad for another was awful, as I want to optimize my character, and I don't feel like leveling the same class 4 times just to have the options readily available.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Shadowlands:
    Pros: Most casual friendly of the three.
    No way dude, WOD was easily friendlier since it had none of these garbage systems that plague BFA and Shadowlands.
    Azeroth must be remastered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    WoD had the best iteration of classes, aka gameplay.
    Are you serious?

    It was just MoP with most of the fun stuff stripped out. WoD was the start of current class design, less stuff because people complained too much about homogenization.

  11. #91
    WOD- JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CHORES IN GAME AT THAT TIME! Which came with Legion+++ (Borrowed power, endless grinds, DESTROYED CLASSES!!!!!, DESTROYED PVP)

    And if I would choose by art/style/zones/music/everything else- BFA easy (especially Ally zones).


    It's just the QUALITY of game and CORE of game was 100000% different in WOD. Everything went downhill with Legion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luck4 View Post
    No way dude, WOD was easily friendlier since it had none of these garbage systems that plague BFA and Shadowlands.
    same systems plagued Legion, too. Just, they were "new" at the time, so people didn't see them as cancerous as they see them right now.

    Only those who play(ed) alts did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Are you serious?

    It was just MoP with most of the fun stuff stripped out. WoD was the start of current class design, less stuff because people complained too much about homogenization.
    Nope mate... That came with Legion.

    Yep, there were few "tweaks" between MOP and Legion. But BIGGEST changes came with Legion and introduction of borrowed power system(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caerrona View Post
    WoD was by far the worst of the 3. Every single expansion wow has ever had can be summed up with

    Level>gear>grind>raid log.

    Post wod has m+ to actually play the game past the first month.


    What makes you play the game tho? Is it constant gear progression? Or...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Wod had pretty much nothing going for it, the dungeons sucked, the setting sucks, there was no world content, classes were dull , the only good thing I can say about it is it’s the expan I had the most fun fishing in.
    I chuckled on this 1.

    What classes did you play pre-legion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loras View Post

    Also wtf SL casual friendly? Since when does casual mean "invests insane amounts of time for marginal returns" and "can't compete on any level without taking boosts, time investment or planning to a distinctly noncasual level"?

    If anything it was WoD that was genuinely casual friendly; you could participate (and participate well!) in all content without any requirements really.
    Lol... People say SL is alt-friendly because you don't have to grind "artifact power". It just proves how.... "smart" they are.

    No artifact grind, but you have to buy 1 wow token in order to make MUST HAVE legendary item.
    Then you have to grind renown
    grind conduits
    grind soulbinds
    grind choreghast
    you want to pvp? Sure, np... you have to grind 20+ hrs to "upgrade" 1 item. lol

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Palapop View Post
    same systems plagued Legion, too. Just, they were "new" at the time, so people didn't see them as cancerous as they see them right now.

    Only those who play(ed) alts did.
    Yeah, you're right, but the OP is only talking about WOD, BFA, and Shadowlands.
    Azeroth must be remastered!

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Everyone has their opinion, but man...

    Imagine calling SL for "no content" and puting WoD above it.
    Imagine calling SL for "no class changes" in expac that added 52 new spells + bring back a lot of old spells above WoD (taking away shit ton of spells) and BfA (taking away most artifact spells and giving nothing in exchange).
    Imagine calling SL for "unplayable bugs" and puting it above WoD (REAL unplayable launch) and BfA (massive amount of bugs during first season).
    Imagine calling SL for "insane amount of grinding" in expac where weekly chore takes 1-2 hour at most and puting it above BfA. Not to mention whining about no content and insane amount of grinding on same breath.
    Imagine callin SL for "worst expac for alts" (I remind that whole leveling from level 1 takes max 20 hours, then you click a button and land in Korthia where gear is falling from the sky) and puting it above BfA (member essences?). Not to mention next patch make life even easier for alts and we judge rest expac from their complete state.

    I get some people can have actual arguments why they like SL less than both WoD and BfA (I give some to you: Sylvanas centric story, lore detached from old Warcraft, disjointed zones, waiting 7 month for second raid, etc.) but your post is just nonsense.
    1. Actually, whats the SL content we have? Beside covenant-related activities. It really didn't brought THAT MUCH UP. A bit more than WOD, yes. But not THAT MUCH.

    2. Yep... they brought back many abilities... Like "auras" for paladins which we already had as "passive" in our spell book in BFA. They literally took away my retribution's aura and made me play devotion aura mandatory if I'm solo ret in grp/raid.
    2.1 Many artifact abilities remained in BFA (some as talents, some as baseline abilities). What are you even talking about?

    3. Having "bugs" and server lag/queue is not the same, mate.

    4. 1-2 hrs/week? For real? Teach me how to do that, please.
    What "must do" grind we had in BFA compared to SL? Azerite power? Which had catch-up mechanic? If you skip 1-2-3 weeks.... you can get all of that in 30 mins in 4th week. WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE CHORES IN GAME FFS?!?!?!?!

    5. Lol? SL is 1 of the alt-unfriendliest expansions, EVER. Shares 1st place with Legion. Just above BFA post-essences. BFA pre-essences was actually super alt friendly exp.
    Gear that drops form Korthia? What can you play with that? Unless you grind 300+ hrs Archivist rep to be able to upgrade very same gear to 220+

    I call your post nonsense tbh.

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    WoD, by far. Sure, it was the epitome of the "raid or die" mindset, but it was at least honest about it, and you didn't have to grind horrifically boring 'world content' or even worse crap such as Choreghast to be able to raid at a decent level. There was no M+, which would put it at disadvantage when compared to Legion or BfA, but it's actually a plus when you think about the snoozefest that is SL M+.
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  15. #95
    WoD if only for Glad Stance.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post




    Shadowlands:
    Pros: Most casual friendly of the three.

    That's simply not true. There is no way you actually played WoD if you come to that conclusion.

  17. #97
    Shadowlands by a mile.
    I have no major complaints right now, and the problems it does have are actually being addressed, unlike WoD.
    Hard to imagine anyone who picked WoD actually played it.

    There was actually no content in WoD, which is scary to see people act like that isn't a problem for them.
    Seems like a lot of people don't actually want to play the game regularly?

    Anyway, the worst expansion out of all of them is cataclysm.
    I assume you were listing expansions that you believe are the worst?

    Classes have never been more fun for me, at a very basic level, than they are right now in Shadowlands.
    Even if we take out the entirety of content from 50-60, I still rate Shadowlands as my favorite of those three expansions.
    I could keep myself occupied sub max level for months if not years at this rate.

    Could not say the same at ANY other time prior to Shadowlands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    You can see how infested this site is with trolls by looking at the first 3 replies. They didn't play during WoD.
    Even BFA was miles ahead of WoD
    That's a flat out lie

  19. #99
    WoD was fun until it became it's own version of groundhogs day. BFA had a lot of issues but at least some of the borrowed powers you got made you feel exactly that "powerful" when you got something whether it was corruption or a HoA upgrade it changed how you played and you noticed it. Shadowlands made me take a 5 month break without even realizing it and I'm inching back towards another if this endless chore grind keeps up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Are you serious?

    It was just MoP with most of the fun stuff stripped out. WoD was the start of current class design, less stuff because people complained too much about homogenization.
    No, Legion is when they started pruning classes and locking abilites behind the stupid artifact weapon.

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