Possible solution for the boosting pandemic.

[Resheph]

You know the solution? Leave /1 and /2. There's nothing useful there anyway. So then you never see those evil people that annoy you so much. And then you can go back to enjoying your game. You do enjoy playing, right?

[Polybius]

There's no real solution. Boosting existed before WoW tokens even through legitimate means, it was only made easier with the token. Advocate for better content and less "seasonal" gameplay so players will stop buying their way out of misery.

[VinceVega]

Let me start this by saying I hate boosting. Boosting will not be going away, with the token its too big of a cash cow for blizzards to give up. What would you think if blizzard set aside servers that made boosting on them an insta ban. They already have servers that cater to specific play styles, pvp and pve servers (classic only), RP servers, why not have boosting servers. The boost / non boost servers would not be able to interact with eachother.

Why is this even a problem?

Just ignore it. I never boost or get boosted and ignore it done.

Gold on Retail is useless unless you like to buy thos 5Mill mounts. 2 hours of famring anything a month or doing a few WQ gives you enough money to get mats for any content.

[holywhiskers]

I really want an explanation from someone on why boosting is bad for you as a player when you don't interact with it yourself in any way.

[Mysterymask]

I really want an explanation from someone on why boosting is bad for you as a player when you don't interact with it yourself in any way.

Pretty sure most folks here is because all the boosting spam in /2 is getting in the way of people spamming anal memes

[Soon-TM]

So I guess the issue here is PEOPLE. Don't hate the boosters or the greedy ass blizzard dbags, hate the game and/or the lazy ass ppl that spend that money.

Blaming addicted people seldom works :/

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Pretty sure most folks here is because all the boosting spam in /2 is getting in the way of people spamming anal memes

If boosting is OK because it has existed since Vanilla (even if it was illegal, but w/e), so is anal or Thunderfury spam.

[rrayy]

Studies have shown that the first few hours of a game are the most important to convince new players to stay.
So... the new starter zone is not perfect but pretty great imo. one of the better ideas blizzard had.

However after that new starting experience new players come into the main city of their faction.
With the trade channel in their chat window.
And the horrible garbage hot trash boosting spam of doom, on my server there is so much spam that if there was any npc flavor text i would have missed on screen and tried to find in the chat window i would not be able to scroll up fast enough before it get's pushed out of it.

This will give anyone that's not completely oblivious to online gaming a bad taste in their mouth, is this a paid subscription game or some hot asian p2w trash?

If you don't see a problem with this you are a part of the problem.
If you think using addons or exiting the trade chat should be the default for new players in their first few hours, you are a part of the problem.

You are stretching and also projecting your opinion onto new players. For all you know, new players don't care about that stuff as the majority does not. You make a major assumption that new players will automatically look at it like you do.

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Alright let's use real math. There are maybe 15 servers that would require a single person to moderate. Rest can likely handle multiple servers at a time.

Now factor in blizzards slave style wages and the fact a banned person is banned and eventually even the gold sellers cant eat that cost...

Let's be generous and say 30 gms.. at 6$ an hour that is 4300? a day to solve the boosting issue.

It costs them pennies.

Federal minimum wage is well above that and in California it is 15/hr. Your math is very bad.

[Toybox]

There is no solution. So long as there's content that one person can't do, another person will always be there to sell it to them.

[NineSpine]

There's no real solution. Boosting existed before WoW tokens even through legitimate means, it was only made easier with the token. Advocate for better content and less "seasonal" gameplay so players will stop buying their way out of misery.

The real solution is just to flatten the gearing curve and provide reasonable paths to BiS for all players. The problem here is the caustic screaming tantrum that some players will throw when someone else gets a good piece of a gear who doesn't "deserve it".

[Empower]

There is no solution. So long as there's content that one person can't do, another person will always be there to sell it to them.

I mean there clearly is... not to boosting as a whole but the game doesn't need spam on the level of the most shady porn site.

[kamuimac]

Let me start this by saying I hate boosting. Boosting will not be going away, with the token its too big of a cash cow for blizzards to give up. What would you think if blizzard set aside servers that made boosting on them an insta ban. They already have servers that cater to specific play styles, pvp and pve servers (classic only), RP servers, why not have boosting servers. The boost / non boost servers would not be able to interact with eachother.

there is no solution since lbizzard is direcly benefiting making hundreds of milions of $$$ from boosting .

they wont ever do anything.

[Toybox]

I mean there clearly is... not to boosting as a whole but the game doesn't need spam on the level of the most shady porn site.

You mean the advertising? Blizzard would stop it if they thought it was in their interests to stop it. If they really wanted to clam down on it, all they'd have to do is start issuing many more bans for the folks doing so in the group-finder - it wouldn't take long for the word to spread through the boosting communities themselves.

Blizzard have seemingly never been serious about stopping the spam. Probably weighed up the cost/return & said "nah sod it."

[TheLucky1]

You are stretching and also projecting your opinion onto new players. For all you know, new players don't care about that stuff as the majority does not. You make a major assumption that new players will automatically look at it like you do.

You give me too much credit, no, i'm quite ignorant in these matters.

The friends and colleagues i got into WoW made me aware of this starting bfa, weird huh?

[holywhiskers]

Pretty sure most folks here is because all the boosting spam in /2 is getting in the way of people spamming anal memes

Hm. I /leave 1 and /leave 2 literally 5 years ago and WoW has never been a better game. I recommend it.

[rrayy]

You give me too much credit, no, i'm quite ignorant in these matters.

The friends and colleagues i got into WoW made me aware of this starting bfa, weird huh?

So your 7 buddies now = a majority of players? Funny, the firiends a colleagues I got in the game simply left the channels. Anecdotal seems to be anecdotal. Weird huh?

[Raelbo]

Let me start this by saying I hate boosting.

And you're entitled to such an opinion. But try to remember it is just a personal opinion and that others are entitled to the opposite.

Boosting will not be going away, with the token its too big of a cash cow for blizzards to give up.

I think that's a bit of a lazy assumption. Now I am not going to pretend that Blizzard make no money from the trading of tokens as a result of boosting, but I do think it's a lot less than you are suggesting. I also don't believe that this money was ever a strong driver in their decision to allow boosting for gold.

Blizzard are 100% ok with boosting for gold because there is, objectively, nothing wrong with the practice and this was equally true before the introduction of tokens and would remain the case if tokens were removed from the game.

What would you think if blizzard set aside servers that made boosting on them an insta ban. They already have servers that cater to specific play styles, pvp and pve servers (classic only), RP servers, why not have boosting servers. The boost / non boost servers would not be able to interact with eachother.

I think it's an utterly daft idea to be honest. Unless you can point to why boosting is objectively objectionable, then I would suggest not trying to enforce your personal code of values on other players. As long as what they are doing is within the rules and not resulting in actual harm to other players, it remains their business, not yours.

[Dartz1979]

Let me start this by saying I hate boosting. Boosting will not be going away, with the token its too big of a cash cow for blizzards to give up. What would you think if blizzard set aside servers that made boosting on them an insta ban. They already have servers that cater to specific play styles, pvp and pve servers (classic only), RP servers, why not have boosting servers. The boost / non boost servers would not be able to interact with eachother.

in response to your post i would have to say hell no boosts are a good thing helps people get caught up.. i liked when they allowed a boost in classic cause meant i didnt have to spend hundreds of hours fighting for quest spots.

[Raetary]

There really is no way to get rid of boosting.
At this point, its just better to give them their own little chat or LFG tab where they can spam their shit while cracking down hard on anything outside of it.

[Usernameforforums]

As long as you can chat, group up, and trade then there will always be a market for boosting. You cant remove it by simply banning people when they are using in game methods of payment.

I do think they should be muted for spamming. Tradechat on Malganis has been a eyesore. They could implement a better slow mode that mutes or blocks messages that are nearly identical within the past 5 or 10 minutes. But i guess that wouldnt work for legit item sellers.

Hmm... Maybe a better option. A boosting only channel could be a viable option then have tradechat auto block the message those that have wts/carry/boost/boosting/mythic+|plus/etc within the message then refer them to the boosting channel. As time goes on, they can just add the loophole words to the filter list. This might be the best option. Idk. Would like some input on this particular suggestion.

[Tic Tacs]

I don’t mind people boosting but what I do mind is when people boost using $$$ which is pretty much legal nowadays with wow token.