Poll: Do you support Blizzard removing the emotes, jokes, flirts, names, images and more?

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  1. #401
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    I'm surprised Jaina's belly is exposed in the new artwork they released. Jaina's breasts are also incredibly exposed.




    Beautiful artwork --as always the art team doesn't disappointment.
    Was this related to the board game? If so thats why they probably got away with it. Little input from the Blizzard team. It is an outsourced board game afterall, so very little influence from Blizzard outside of their approval for the game being made.
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  2. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by LordVargK View Post
    A good game: good gameplay.
    A good MMO: good gameplay + social interactions.

    If you can subsitute your fellow players with bots and still have the same experience, you don't play an MMO.
    I guess it's a good thing no one said anything about replacing all players with bots or removing all social interaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skayth View Post
    Same. I was sure they were gonna retcon her outfits..... but there is still time to "fix" that pic
    I'm guessing when Blizzard sells licensing rights to other companies, like they did for the board game this art is being used for, they also pass on whatever relevant artwork they have in their vault to make sure the established IP aesthetic is maintained. This was probably just one of the old ones they had in their "Wrath of the Lich King" folder from that time. I don't think "fixing" old art that they don't plan to use themselves is a high priority, even to hide some bellybuttons.

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    But NPCs wishing others Death and Hate in main city: "get a rope" is not considered problematic?
    love WoWarcraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    I'm surprised Jaina's belly is exposed in the new artwork they released. Jaina's breasts are also incredibly exposed.




    Beautiful artwork --as always the art team doesn't disappointment.
    That is some pretty disappointing artwork to me. I can't figure out what direction Jaina is actually facing with her legs vs her torso due to some weird displacement going on with her collarbone relative to her shoulders and chest. What in the world is going on with her right collarbone, and where is her left collarbone?
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  5. #405
    Quote Originally Posted by theramoreisthebomb View Post
    i'm surprised jaina's belly is exposed in the new artwork they released. Jaina's breasts are also incredibly exposed.




    beautiful artwork --as always the art team doesn't disappointment.
    quick turn that broad into fruit!!!

  6. #406
    Good. They readded burp, fart, moon, cough, and one more. Progress. Now readd the others including ALL of the jokes and flirts.

    Do not readd /spit though. That's understandable. And for the Tauren male, you can just hire the VA to say he likes men too or whatever so it's not offensive.

  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Good. They readded burp, fart, moon, cough, and one more. Progress. Now readd the others including ALL of the jokes and flirts.

    Do not readd /spit though. That's understandable. And for the Tauren male, you can just hire the VA to say he likes men too or whatever so it's not offensive.
    why is the spit thing understandable lol
    the tauren thing, yeah, i can see that.
    but "spitting" on another player is now suddenly horrible? especially when said player can straight up "spit" back?
    this is a game where people get tortured, driven to madness, ripped apart, burned alive, or have their very souls destroyed. where racism and war crimes are both shown and adressed as such. where players can annoy each other with toys, pvp, mob stealing, trolling and whatever else. the spit thing is downright laughable.
    if someone seriously gets offended when another player /spit emotes them, id argue they should rethink if they are in the right franchise.
    The crooked shitposter with no eyes is watching from the endless thread.

    From the space that is everywhere and nowhere, the crooked shitposter feasts on memes.

    He has no eyes to see, but he dreams of infinite memeing and trolling.

  8. #408
    Quote Originally Posted by thottstation View Post
    Since you specifically asked...









    Meanwhile, the only sexy dresses available in WoW are festive holiday dresses useable a few days in a year and low-poly ones added in 2006, and hats still make you go bald!



    And instead of jumping on the HUGE transmog and outfitting craze, Blizzard bizarrely seem to resent the whole system.

    And now with the cultural revolution happening at Blizzard HQ and Amish moral values suddenly becoming cool, everyone's gone from wanting more blinged-out filagreed dresses and sexy outfits to "Oh god please don't remove what little we have. They're 17yr old jpg-quality dresses, but it's all we got!"

    How ironic that all the "Muh SLIppERy sLOpE FaLLaCy" people are nowhere to be found.

    Maybe the "Oh, and Blizzard is also removing flirts and jokes" news hit too early, and they never got the chance to mock everyone for being irked that we're losing yet more Rated T for Teen content?

    Weep for all the women who loved their Night Elf characters.

    The tree burned. They got genocided. Tyrande ditched her dress made of stars and never made it available for players. And the Night Elf Alizée dance has a Hunter's Mark over it the size of Sargeras' sword.
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    And I started up my FF14 account again yesterday because thats where the ladies are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Good. They readded burp, fart, moon, cough, and one more. Progress. Now readd the others including ALL of the jokes and flirts.
    They didnt change anything. They were not removed nor changed after the first mention of it, it just wasnt put on the PTR. Its on PTR now with the intentional change, that you cant target anyone with those, only yourself.


    Blizzard

    User Interface and Accessibility

    Several emotes have been adjusted:
    Drool, cough, burp, fart, whistle, spit, and moon no longer change when used while targeting a player.

    Developers’ note: Some of these emotes seem to have harmless intentions at a glance, but when used while targeting another player, their intentions can turn unexpectedly suggestive or intrusive. We’ve made adjustments to these emotes with negative connotations towards another player, while also adding a few new ones.
    This still stands, and were always the intended change.

    The wowhead article might be a bit misleading with that one, as they were never intended to be removed, but changed than readded.

    You can only do those emote on yourself, as intitially intended with the change.
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  9. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamas102 View Post
    I guess it's a good thing no one said anything about replacing all players with bots or removing all social interaction.
    You did not, but that's the consequence of thinking gameplay>social interactions.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by LordVargK View Post
    You did not, but that's the consequence of thinking gameplay>social interactions.
    Well... it is. But there's a big difference between saying "gameplay is more important" vs "social interactions are completely unimportant".

    The main argument that I first quoted you on was that inhibiting player interaction wasn't always a bad thing. That's not to say ALL interaction should be done away with, but rather there are good reasons to limit certain interactions.

  11. #411
    personally I think every joke is offensive

    you're always making fun of something, that's insensitive

  12. #412
    I don't get why the tauren thing is offensive. (yes I get why they think its offensive) but are there any LGBTQ folks that did actually find it offensive?

    The joke is the tauren is a dopey bastard who misunderstands the word homogenized and states his sexual preference. I feel like to find that offensive would just be tantamount to being offended by cis-folks, no?
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  13. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by AcidicSyn View Post
    I don't get why the tauren thing is offensive. (yes I get why they think its offensive) but are there any LGBTQ folks that did actually find it offensive?

    The joke is the tauren is a dopey bastard who misunderstands the word homogenized and states his sexual preference. I feel like to find that offensive would just be tantamount to being offended by cis-folks, no?
    The gist of the joke is as follows: "Homo? Haha, I'm not gay!"

    Not exactly fraught with taste, even if it might not be the absolute crudest of humor or like openly disparaging. There's a lot of jokes whose removal was kinda confusing, or seemed a bit misunderstood by the devs going through and making these changes. This was, uh... not one of them.
    Last edited by CalamityHeart; 2021-10-06 at 03:41 PM.

  14. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by CalamityHeart View Post
    The gist of the joke is as follows: "Homo? Haha, I'm not gay!"

    Not exactly fraught with taste, even if it might not be the absolute crudest of humor or like openly disparaging. There's a lot of jokes whose removal was kinda confusing, or seemed a bit misunderstood by the devs going through and making these changes. This was, uh... not one of them.
    I mean yeah, I mentioned I get why they think it's offensive, I'm wondering if anyone actually did think it was offensive. Wondering if anyone here found it offensive.

    No it's not tasteful but are any of the others? Did anyone think these jokes were classy? The fart jokes? Like I said, I just don't see how that could be offensive unless one is offended by straight people. I hear that and I don't get the impression that its punching down, so I was curious if any of that demographic found it offensive since they'd have better insight than I would.

    My interpretation of the joke is that the gist was the dopey tauren doesn't know what that word means. Not that he's making fun of homosexuals.

    "I'm not gay" isn't any more offensive to me than "I am gay". It's a big ol'shrug to me, so since so many agree that it is problematic, I wanted some perspective.

    (I do feel it necessary to state that I have no horse in this race, it's removal doesn't bug me I'm genuinely just curious about how that's offensive)
    Last edited by AcidicSyn; 2021-10-06 at 04:02 PM.
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  15. #415
    Next expansion will be Hello Kitty Island Adventure at this rate.
    1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
    2) Unrack
    3) Crank out 15 reps
    4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day

  16. #416
    So for those that it does offend, is not typing /joke or /flirt just simply not an option for you? Or is it so offensive and off-putting that you sit there and spam it in disbelief while trying to manage your outrage?

  17. #417
    Quote Originally Posted by AcidicSyn View Post
    I don't get why the tauren thing is offensive. (yes I get why they think its offensive) but are there any LGBTQ folks that did actually find it offensive?

    The joke is the tauren is a dopey bastard who misunderstands the word homogenized and states his sexual preference. I feel like to find that offensive would just be tantamount to being offended by cis-folks, no?
    The joke itself is kind of homophobic

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Good. They readded burp, fart, moon, cough, and one more. Progress. Now readd the others including ALL of the jokes and flirts.

    Do not readd /spit though. That's understandable. And for the Tauren male, you can just hire the VA to say he likes men too or whatever so it's not offensive.
    I say readd spit but make emotes time out to not allow spam of them
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  19. #419
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    The joke itself is kind of homophobic
    How? That's the question. I asked a few guildies of this persuasion last night and they feel similarly in that a dopey tauren misunderstanding a word and saying he likes ladies is stupid, but not homophobic. /shrugs
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    "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never....BURN IT"

  20. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by Houle View Post
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/suggest...h-9-1-5-324416

    yeeeeeah, it appears the devs are finally losing it.
    im not even sure anymore if this is fckn hilarious or just downright sad tbh
    lol wowhead preemptively locked comments that might be even sadder.

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