Poll: Dou you lean Right or left?

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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by AryuFate View Post
    I’m of the intellectual elite, so left.
    Hail Satan! Catch you at the next masked covered, six feet apart, anti-America get together?

  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuujin View Post
    Hail Satan! Catch you at the next masked covered, six feet apart, anti-America get together?
    I don't believe in Satan, but that's because I'm educated.

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana Violence View Post
    Well, it is ever the longterm strategy of the left to slowly start demonizing everything that doesn't fit their own view.

    Even syrup and meat are racist / bigoted / extremist nowadays.

    And we're coming for YOU next.

    This is why no one takes you seriously. lol

  4. #304
    I lean towards compassion, a general understanding that people who are different than me deserve to have equal rights and not be discriminated against, addressing issues by rationally considering the evidence, and being willing to change my mind as new evidence arises. If an expert in a field says one thing, and a politician says another, I'll believe the expert. I think we should care for our fellow human beings and the planet we're living on, because it's the only planet we have and we're all stuck on it together.

    I have learned as of the last 5 years or so living in the US that apparently makes me an evil socialist commie libtard, among other expletives.
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    Sylvanas will just give her own head to Tyrande.
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    And just like the thread before it, let's back away from sexualizing Azshara and return to the original topic at hand.

  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Yeah, I know about all the fucks up by Blair and his countless war crimes. Horrid human being.

    And I could give less of a shit why Corbyn lost because it does not change what the liberal/right-wing of labour did.
    Left-wing parties very rarely win in any European countries no matter what ideology they hold, people voting for self-interests(if they have an above average income) or just plain out idiotic reasons(the far right parties) is nothing new. And most people also don't care if the lifestyle they enjoy requires exploitation of poorer countries, neither do most people care about all the wars their country is involved in as long as it does not harm them directly. But none of this means those things are then okay.
    You obviously do give a shit because you were blaming the media for his loss. So far you've refused to acknowledge Corbyn's role in the enormous defeat he presided over, just as you refuse to acknowledge the good that Blair did here. But you are right that people generally act out of self interest. I tend to vote Labour, mostly because I feel they'd make my life better. I even voted for them in 2019, but they failed to make their case and deserved to lose, just as they will again if Keir Starmer can't get a grip.

  6. #306
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana Violence View Post
    I can't imagine any better and easier circumstances to win a lot of votes than being Labour with how completely fucked up the UK is at the moment with the Tories in charge.

    There are so many key issues that can be pointed out and criticized (caused by Brexit and/or Covid)...

    Willing to bet they just lose a lot of votes because they're focusing on identity politics and pointless social rights a bit too much instead of focusing on the key issues.
    You'd think so, but the Tories have provided the opposition with an open goal for years, and every time Labour fails to take advantage. They've suffered a string of leaders who don't have the killer instinct needed to demolish the government. On top of that they're faced with Boris. The British love a cheeky chap who can laugh and joke his way out of anything and it's a large part of his appeal, and Labour don't really have an effective counter for it at the moment, although there are signs that the public are becoming tired with Boris's fake joviality.

    And yeah, the identity politics BS is not an election winner. The British are actually quite a tolerant lot compared to most other countries in Europe, but if Labour revert to the SJW stereotype and indulge in identity navel gazing instead of addressing what people feel are the real issues facing society then it's only going to do them more harm.

  7. #307
    Odd that discussion of Chappelle's new special was in this thread of all places.

  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Odd that discussion of Chappelle's new special was in this thread of all places.
    Not really surprising. The pipeline of "failed comedian to political reactionary" is very real. Comedy Central started it, reddit and podcasts made it worse.

    It's great for people that want some socialisms, but are too entitled to let go of the bigoted jokes they grew up on.


  9. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuerbisgeschmackShake View Post
    Not really surprising. The pipeline of "failed comedian to political reactionary" is very real. Comedy Central started it, reddit and podcasts made it worse.

    It's great for people that want some socialisms, but are too entitled to let go of the bigoted jokes they grew up on.

    What does a philosopher who never had a career as a comedian have to do with that?
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    Timmy still can get lunch, it's just not free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Centrism, the "I refuse to form an opinion" position. The "I oppose extremes but couldn't tell you whether any actual policy or proposal is 'extreme' or not" position. The "making decisions is hard so I'm going to pretend not making decisions is a valid choice" position.
    I think John Cleese put you and your right wing counterparts properly in the booth you deserve:


  11. #311
    Enough to the left for people in South Korea to accuse me of being a communist but here on mmo-champion people keep harping about how I'm either right wing or far right, quite funny contrast.

  12. #312
    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Enough to the left for people in South Korea to accuse me of being a communist but here on mmo-champion people keep harping about how I'm either right wing or far right, quite funny contrast.
    That's because the left-right paradigm is misleading. People can wear they are totally on the left, while supporting ethno-nationalism and fascism. The same people who wanted to keep Muslims out, or in your case, black people out... swear that their support of socialized healthcare makes up for their toxic beliefs.

    It doesn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  13. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's because the left-right paradigm is misleading. People can wear they are totally on the left, while supporting ethno-nationalism and fascism. The same people who wanted to keep Muslims out, or in your case, black people out... swear that their support of socialized healthcare makes up for their toxic beliefs.

    It doesn't.
    Tell me more about how you don't know anything about Korean politics.

  14. #314
    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Tell me more about how you don't know anything about Korean politics.
    I know plenty about this, as well as your stances.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  15. #315
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I know plenty about this
    Oh really?

    Do explain, in depth, what NL is, in the context of Korean politics.

    I'll give you a hint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progre...h_Korea,_2017) They're affiliated.
    Last edited by Freighter; 2021-10-31 at 03:36 PM.

  16. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Oh really?

    Do explain, in depth, what NL is, in the context of Korean politics.

    I'll give you a hint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progre...h_Korea,_2017) They're affiliated.
    Once again, the hated of foreigners, isn't really an unknown.

    "But, I'm totes a leftist!!!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  17. #317
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Once again, the hated of foreigners, isn't really an unknown.

    "But, I'm totes a leftist!!!"
    I see you didn't even attempt to explain your understanding of Korean politics. I believe your understanding of Korean politics to be that of... Hmm... non-existing.

  18. #318
    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    I see you didn't even attempt to explain your understanding of Korean politics. I believe your understanding of Korean politics to be that of... Hmm... non-existing.
    I don't begin to know, nor care about Korean political parties. I understand political stances, as well as extreme racism and xenophobia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

  19. #319
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I don't begin to know, nor care about Korean political parties.
    Then why are you replying? You have no clue about Korean politics.

  20. #320
    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    Then why are you replying? You have no clue about Korean politics.
    I wasn't talking about Korean politics, I was explaining based on your stances on issues, as well as how it shows why some make what appears to be differing claims as to one's political position.

    Left-Right is largely meaningless, because radical and racist stances are not simply "evened out" by supporting something like socialized healthcare.

    We have actual fucking Nazis in these forums who pretend they are centrists, or even leftists, because they support things like socialized medicine. That doesn't make them centrists, it means they are still Nazis.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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