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    If only that oak tree was a little bigger that day and help and arrived a little slower...

    The universe punished us all that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana Violence View Post
    Or just you know they can use the normal suicide hotline like everyone else.

    The very notion that there needs to be something such as a "trans kids suicide hotline" on a republican or government webpage in specific is absurd to begin with.
    Yeah, why target a demographic with rapidly rising suicide rates fueled by discrimination? I swear some of you guys are just too fucking dumb to be having these conversations.

    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Honestly, I'm just kinda convinced it's a character being played (poorly) with how on the nose it is in the post before yours.

    Or they've been successfully radicalised by the utter garbage we know they consume on the internet.

    I lean toward the first option.
    The amount of effort to maintain multiple personalities for this long would be even more embarrassing and pathetic than just being radicalized by Tim Pool and friends. And honestly, I've seen worse outside of this forum so none of the things I read here are all that shocking or uncommon for fascist weirdos to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    I remember almost going down the war nerd/adam curtis/mark fisher rabbithole and then reading a few on point critiques and being like 'wow im so fucking dumb'
    Having the capacity for critical thinking and the willingness to be wrong is the exact opposite of dumb, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    You can attempt to use basically anything as a defense, that doesn't make everything legal.
    Sadly if it works, like the Gay Panic Defense has at times, it IS legal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana Violence View Post
    Don't tell me they aren't trying.
    stop breaking the rules then. Easy peasy. This conservative victim hood when not one of you can follow the rules is just as worth of tin foil as the election conspiracy nonsense.
    Forum badass alert:
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Also, one day the tables might turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break The Ice View Post
    I don't really see what the problem is. They can just use the regular suicide hotlines like everyone else.
    To think our favorite nazbol and our favorite fascist poster would make the exact same argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    stop breaking the rules then. Easy peasy. This conservative victim hood when not one of you can follow the rules is just as worth of tin foil as the election conspiracy nonsense.
    It's not very tolerant to bully them while they bully. What is freedom if they can't endlessly harass trans people or advocate for political violence so they can have their way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    It's not very tolerant to bully them while they bully. What is freedom if they can't endlessly harass trans people or advocate for political violence so they can have their way.
    “I lie and people call me a liar. Stop bullying me!”
    Quote Originally Posted by Venara
    Half this forum would be permanently banned if we did everything some of our users regularly demand or otherwise expect us to do.
    Actual blue mod response on doing what they volunteered to do. No wonder this place is infested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break The Ice View Post
    I don't really see what the problem is. They can just use the regular suicide hotlines like everyone else.
    Except the regular hotline isn't equipped to handle those specific needs of that community. Could they just roll the LGBTQ+ hotline workers into the normal line? Sure. But they aren't doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break The Ice View Post
    I don't really see what the problem is. They can just use the regular suicide hotlines like everyone else.
    It's probably better to diversify them, so workers aren't overloaded and certain topics that require more sensitivity/knowledge can be tended to. A lot of people feel better reaching out when they think they'll be more easily understood. Think of schools and teachers/faculty w/ those stickers for different topics on their doors. People may think it's surface-level virtue signaling, but it does make it easier for troubled kids to know where they can go when they're afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozz View Post
    It's probably better to diversify them, so workers aren't overloaded and certain topics that require more sensitivity/knowledge can be tended to. A lot of people feel better reaching out when they think they'll be more easily understood. Think of schools and teachers/faculty w/ those stickers for different topics on their doors. People may think it's surface-level virtue signaling, but it does make it easier for troubled kids to know where they can go when they're afraid.
    Really. It's Texas. Their suicide hotline pretty much is "Y'all need Jesus. No? Good thing it's easy to buy a gun. Enjoy."
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Remember how Google's motto used to be "Don't be evil"?

    The Republicans' motto is "Be evil".
    “Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.” -- Donald J. Trump, 2013

    "I don't take responsibility at all."
    -- Donald J. Trump, 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Really. It's Texas. Their suicide hotline pretty much is "Y'all need Jesus. No? Good thing it's easy to buy a gun. Enjoy."
    Y'know, when you put it like that... maybe this is a good thing. There's a 74% chance Texas legislation thinks that a suicide hotline should be a place to ENCOURAGE someone to take their own life. Wanting more deaths kinda falls in line with their covid handling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nastard View Post
    Y'know, when you put it like that... maybe this is a good thing. There's a 74% chance Texas legislation thinks that a suicide hotline should be a place to ENCOURAGE someone to take their own life. Wanting more deaths kinda falls in line with their covid handling.
    At this point it just feels like some fucking insanely sadistic and cruel game in which Rick Scott and Greg Abbott are competing to see which one of them can get more citizens in the states they respectively govern killed.
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    They really are just competing at this point to see who can be the most evil. I've never seen anything like it, reality or fiction.
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    Having the authority to do a thing doesn't make it just, moral, or even correct.

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    Uhm, i bets there are lots of private companies u could call or new ones have now sprung up to offer services. What exactly is the problem here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Uhm, i bets there are lots of private companies u could call or new ones have now sprung up to offer services. What exactly is the problem here?
    Oh yeah, provate companies are just champing at the bit to get involved in the lucrative field of suicide hotlines...

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    I wonder if the idiots asking "but wuts da problem, bro?" would be similarly baffled if some radical feminist type (who somehow happened to be in a position of power like this) removed resources for at-risk men because they didn't want to appear to be in support of that group of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Uhm, i bets there are lots of private companies u could call or new ones have now sprung up to offer services. What exactly is the problem here?
    1) Removing mental health services from a community that is at a high risk of suicide is kind of a cunt move.

    2) These are, as said, under the umbrella of healthcare which like justice (i.e. law enforcement and the penal system) and education should never be privatized because they directly correspond directly to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    Don't let me interrupt your complete and utter lack of empathy, though.
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Oh yeah, provate companies are just champing at the bit to get involved in the lucrative field of suicide hotlines...
    You are right, there is virtually no demand..why try to make money when nobody wants to call?

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/10/u...rnd/index.html

    A crisis mental-health hotline has seen an 891% spike in calls

    By Amanda Jackson, CNN
    Updated 7:51 AM EDT, Fri April 10, 2020

    People can reach the Disaster Distress Helpline at 1-800-985-5990.

    (CNN)People all over the nation are trying to cope with the new normal of life during a pandemic. Many are dealing with health issues, unemployment, grief and facing uncertainty what the future holds.

    The Disaster Distress Helpline, a federal crisis hotline, has seen a huge spike in calls of people seeking help recently. The national helpline, ran by the at the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), provides counseling for people facing emotional distress during times of natural and human-caused disasters.

    In March, the helpline saw a 338% increase in call volume compared with February, according to spokesperson with the agency. And compared to last year for the month of March, they had an 891% increase of calls.
    Clearly no market

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    You are right, there is virtually no demand..why try to make money when nobody wants to call?
    It's literally a suicide hotline - i.e. a mental health service. Profit should not be a concern.

    Y'all say rubbish like this and then wonder why women stopped wanting to fuck you the instant they gained the liberty to refuse. No self-awareness, rofl.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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