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  1. #1281
    Falcon 9 life leader is now up to 25 launches and landings, same as space shuttle Endeavour.

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    New Glenn launch timeline: https://bsky.app/profile/jfoust.bsky.../3lfhxexxig224

    Window opens in 14½ hours and lasts 3 hours.

  2. #1282
    It would be hilarious if they launched and hit each other, and blew up! It would be like something like the Simpsons!

  3. #1283
    New Glenn delayed by 24 hours.

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    T-0 is 24 minutes from now, but webcast started late so maybe it's pushed a bit.

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    Delayed to 30 minutes past the hour.

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    Now delayed again. 0152 Eastern, 0752 CET.

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    27 mins past the hour.

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    New Glenn scrubbed for now. They couldn't get the countdown past 10 min I believe. Unknown date for next attempt. I don't know how if they had anymore launch windows but they will likely take a day or two at least to iron out whatever process was holding them up. Routine with maiden flights. Rest of the week might be out of the question. SpaceX has two launches out of the cap


    Starship is scheduled for Wednesday, Jan 15, afternoon noon. Suborbital flight that test Starships payload deployment capabilities. I believe a booster catch will be attempted but I'm not sure.
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    They said the word scrub and I went to bed. Staying up to 9 in the morning my time may have been a mistake.

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    New Glenns next window is Jan 16 1am EST. So are couple of hours after Starship.

    So on Jan 15 there's a the launch of s lunar lander, Blue Ghost, and Starship. Then shortly after New Glenn if all things go to plan.
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    Double lunar lander launch official stream!

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    That went well. Up next is Starship in just under 7½ hours.

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    Starship now moved to tomorrow, same time.

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    New Glenn lift off.

    No first stage landing but they achieved orbit on their first go. First attempt at an orbital rocket, one of the tallest rockets ever built, pretty impressive. It was cloudy but the launch looked great. Most rockets have an orangish flame, New Glenn was whitish blue.
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  10. #1290
    Missed it because my sleep this week has been destroyed by staying up for their first attempt, but that was impressive! Orbit on the first attempt is no joke. Blue Origin has come to play.


    Replay:

    https://www.youtube.com/live/KXysNxb...=shared&t=6812

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    Pick your poison!

    Official stream: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1OwGWNYrzZVKQ

    NASASpaceflight coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nM3vGdanpw
    Spaceflight Now coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yCG1T06jlk
    Everyday Astronaut coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Px_b5eSzsA

    Direct streamlink grabbed from the official stream:

    Copy-paste into VLC Media Player or equivalent.


    Launch time is currently set to 237pm Pacific / 437pm Central / 2337 CET.

  11. #1291
    Successful catch of the booster!

    https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1880024050048589841
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    That catch was insane. Didn't think it was going to happen for a second. Cool stuff.

    Looks like Starship might not have made it.

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    Starship definitely didn't make it. With the Starlink comms and all the backups they talked about, the engines suddenly going out one by one and then a complete loss of signal suggests loss of vehicle. My initial estimate is that it went off course with the engines behaving erratically, and that the flight termination system may have been activated.

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    https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1880025107948794244

    Looks like fire was coming out of the side shortly before loss of comms.

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    It was a new model of Starship and their launches are pretty complicated with the hot staging. Good data nonetheless.

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    https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115

    Video of a rather fiery reentry of many tiny little pieces of Starship.

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    FAA is going to be on them, which is there job and a part of the process.

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    https://x.com/realcamtem/status/1880026604472266800
    https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662

    Couple more angles of the debris field. I note that the two clumps of debris as seen in the first of these two links are at dramatically different altitudes. Wonder how that happened.

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    Massive explosion footage!

    https://x.com/FlyerXT/status/1880027458642350095

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    The Columbia accident didn't even look that, wild. Listening to NSFs broadcast. The Range and FAA aren't going to be happy if it wasn't a good breakup. Hard to tell because we don't know what an abort is supposed to look like.

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    Another angle of boom: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DE52_hVSeQz/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    The Columbia accident didn't even look that, wild. Listening to NSFs broadcast. The Range and FAA aren't going to be happy if it wasn't a good breakup. Hard to tell because we don't know what an abort is supposed to look like.
    I still think it was the FTS. Engines were going out one after one for about 40 seconds before loss of telemetry, in an uneven manner. Once the center engines (the only ones with gimbal function) were out, it would no longer be able to course correct for the thrust of the outer remaining vacuum engine(s). Once it's clear there's no correcting it from going outside the acceptable corridor the FTS would be activated, manually or not.

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    Some more wicked footage of the debris field making a fiery descent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S8CK6LgnD4

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    https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1880049991177420972

    Definitely looks like it was out of control before it went boom.

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    More unreal footage: https://x.com/jslampe/status/1880031530048991266

    Also the FAA confirmed it had to expand the hazard zone to accommodate potential debris falling outside the established zone. It'll likely be quite some time before we see the next launch. :/

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    No injuries or damage reported, per FAA

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    Seen from a plane: https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/co...had_to_divert/

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    FAA have confirmed an investigation of the New Glenn booster failure is required. I assume they'll make a similar statement about Starship tomorrow.
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    Investigating New Glenn makes sense if only to make sure they are controlling the booster. SpaceX got "grounded" for failed landings, they would miss a week if that. The agencies are allowed to drop stages in the ocean, but it has to be on purpose. Shuttles recovered their SRBs by dropping them in the ocean.

    I don't the FAA will be hard on SpaceX but people always blow any penalty out of proportion. Had Starship not blown up people would still be criticizing the FAA for regulations.

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