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  1. #61
    Will still call him Mcree. It rolls of the tongue much nicer than the stupid name they gave him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    will probably be called McCree for quite a while. Wouldn't surprise me if casters, depending on event producer, will be banned from using that name though.
    The Sundance Butch would have been better.

    Such a missed opportunity.

    Fun fact though. Butch Cassidy's, which the new name is clearly based on, actual real name got this nice middle name:

    LeeeeeeeRooooooy.
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  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Skirdus View Post
    So is there any in-universe reason for this change? Or is it just "this was his real name all along" or something along those lines?
    For a really long time there has been a Sombra voiceline taunting McCree along the lines of "Hey there McCree, if that is your real name" hinting that she knows it isn't his real name.

    Been there since Sombra release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincink View Post
    Like many things that get renamed because of social justice authoritarianism, the name itself is tied to what it refers to in-context. A passel of pixels in the shape of a Western character in a video game is called McCree. Players don't generally know or care that it has significance beyond the name of a character in a video game. And in fact, even if they do know that it's named after someone at a video game company, it has no bearing on how they interpret its in-context meaning. If I said the name "Gordon Freeman", likely the first thought to a gamer is, the mute protagonist from the Half Life series. If I tell you he's named after Freeman Dyson, you might think that's interesting but you still think of Gordon Freeman as the mute protagonist from the Half Life series and merrily continue swinging the crowbar when you play the Half-Life games.

    The "low" that Blizzard has slipped to is that without any hesitation, they memory-hole'd the names of characters whose names were only ever connected to the in-game characters themselves and not their namesake in the minds of their paying and playing customers. The players are ultimately punished here even if Blizzard did not intend to: McRee, a name memorable to all the Overwatch players, is now verboten, and is now replaced with this approved name.

    I'll grant you that it is extreme to be emotionally traumatized by the change but both the optics and effects of it are clear. Blizzard is behaving like a chef who so far had served an excellent meal but then served a side-dish a few did not like. Upon seeing their sour-faced responses to the side-dish, the chef scrambles like mad to fix the main course and other side-dishes because in his mind he assumes the whole meal might be offensive-tasting to them and others. In the end, it was only a few patrons who disliked the one side-dish but now the quality of the rest of the meal suffers as do those who were enjoying the meal without issue. Why must the many suffer for the few?
    The chef analogy holds if we were discussing a title blizzard released that flopped or was bad tasting, like WC3 reforged I suppose. I wouldn't compare company misconduct becoming global outrage to a side dish.
    More like, the chef you loved and thought cooked up some amazing food had a few sous chefs working for him who were into touching kids. So now they have to rename an item on their menu called "tasty tots" to "diced fried potatoes"

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Skirdus View Post
    So is there any in-universe reason for this change? Or is it just "this was his real name all along" or something along those lines?
    It's an in-universe thing. He didnt like his name, he didnt like who he was, so he changed it.

    I sincerely had my fingers crossed that be would be the first trans hero in Overwatch. But they already pissed enough losers off I guess.

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    I dig 'Cassidy', not so much 'Cole'. Whatever, there'll probably be a period I keep referring to him as 'Jesse' or 'McCree' until I get used to the new name.

    Now that I think about it I'd have liked "Joel Cassidy" more.
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    To me, the most surprising thing about this is the fact that there are still people who play Overwatch for some reason.
    The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
    Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
    Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    So the sexual predator rode off into the sunset and then he changed his name and snuck back after dark?

    Would have been better to just ninja-fix the name. This statement is just stupid.
    This happens plenty, except irl they come back with a female name.

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    Dunno why they went with what sounds like a pornstar name when Jesse Shimada was right there, but okay I guess.
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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    Brilliant name change.

    Change the name from one of the developers who said perverted things in a private group chat, to the name of two well known train and bank robbers.

    Peak stupidity.

  11. #71
    overwatch 2 when?

    or are they too busy with renaming?

  12. #72
    Just not what every self respecting company would do. Nobody even knew this was a real name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    This happens plenty, except irl they come back with a female name.
    Because as we all know, legal name changes were never a thing before the evil SJWs came along. /s

    Getting upset about what is functionally a cosmetic change is beyond pathetic. Going outside and touching some grass is always an option on the table, you know.
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    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Brilliant name change.

    Change the name from one of the developers who said perverted things in a private group chat, to the name of two well known train and bank robbers.

    Peak stupidity.
    Sensitivity is according to the zeitgeist of its time. It's dumb, yes, but that's the human beast for you.
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  15. #75
    I'll continue calling him McCree in-game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    I dig 'Cassidy', not so much 'Cole'. Whatever, there'll probably be a period I keep referring to him as 'Jesse' or 'McCree' until I get used to the new name.

    Now that I think about it I'd have liked "Joel Cassidy" more.
    But now he can be Cole Casserole and that rolls of the tongue better.

    Although I guess Joel works fine for that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    But now he can be Cole Casserole and that rolls of the tongue better.

    Although I guess Joel works fine for that too
    Y'all are forgetting the obvious pun.

    Cole vs Ashe. Rofl.
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Because as we all know, legal name changes were never a thing before the evil SJWs came along. /s

    Getting upset about what is functionally a cosmetic change is beyond pathetic. Going outside and touching some grass is always an option on the table, you know.
    Tell the bolded bit to the trans community.

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    They trimmed his beard and turned him from an American to a Mexican...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Tell the bolded bit to the trans community.
    They're not the ones whinging that they can't play a character named after a sex pet, so...

    Y'all are missing the point entirely. Changes of this sort are not for you, they are a message to other sex pests that they won't have their contributions or memories honored.

    And I'll say it again; were it not for the context in which these changes were occurring, it's likely you would neither notice nor care. It's not about what is being changed, it's about who's doing it and why. So you're really just telling on yourselves by getting butthurt that fiction is a narrative construct wherein characters do things because the authors say they do.
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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