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  1. #221
    It feels so out of place that Blizzard put effort and time to release the Chronicles yet retconned a huge portion of the lore later. The whole "it's from the titans' viewpoint" biz is silly because the almighty Titans should know a shit ton more about the universe for traveling it for eons yet all the Warcraft events are told by an omniscient narrator. Now they just going that before all cosmic forces there were... polygons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Sylvanas will become the new Arbiter in the end, that much is obvious.
    didnt i read somewhere that peligos was to be the new arbiter or some such nonsense?
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  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by niilokin View Post
    It feels so out of place that Blizzard put effort and time to release the Chronicles yet retconned a huge portion of the lore later. The whole "it's from the titans' viewpoint" biz is silly because the almighty Titans should know a shit ton more about the universe for traveling it for eons yet all the Warcraft events are told by an omniscient narrator. Now they just going that before all cosmic forces there were... polygons.
    Because nrratively, point of Chronicles was mostly just the WC3 and canonical WoW retellings, not the first book which was filler and sold trickily.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You people weren't paying attention when playing WC3.

    Don't you remember when Mal'ganis thought to himself "The Janitor will be pleased with Arthas slaying me, all is proceeding as planned, soon the World Soul of this world will be his"??
    "But only after that High Elf turned into Banshee by Arthas shatters the Helm that we supplied him with. Sigh, it's just too easy".

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    I would say that's more likely, if at all. With each major realm of the primordial cosmic powers having its own forges and systems of fabrication for their various flora, fauna, and structures.
    Seems like i hit that one on the head, there's indication in the files there's a Zereth x for each Cosmic force.

  6. #226
    Gee I wonder why they made one of the most zealous figures in the Alliance King and took Anduin out of the picture for the foreseeable future

    We won't get a dark alliance but we will see a hyper-militarised and fascistic Alliance under Turalyon and Alleria

    It's about time the faction that's won every major war it's taken part in be actually a feared force

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
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    i already have her i need a waifu on the warcraft universe too.
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  8. #228
    I just hope we go back to Azeroth

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  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Pelagos is the new Arbiter.

    A guy who couldn't even get wings
    With how messed up the Shadowlands are before we get there, it's no wonder they can't even get the concept of a participation trophy right.
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  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by The Vindicator View Post
    Gee I wonder why they made one of the most zealous figures in the Alliance King and took Anduin out of the picture for the foreseeable future

    We won't get a dark alliance but we will see a hyper-militarised and fascistic Alliance under Turalyon and Alleria

    It's about time the faction that's won every major war it's taken part in be actually a feared force
    Genn isn't King of the Alliance. Neither is Turalyon, for that matter, even if he doesn't match your description.

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz1979 View Post
    i already have her i need a waifu on the warcraft universe too.
    Then why pick Sylvanas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    We already know she isn't going to be the Arbiter. Stop trusting everyone who knows a little photoshop.
    you guys take the fun out of EVERYTHING
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minikin View Post
    you guys take the fun out of EVERYTHING
    Don't worry too much, there's still the possibility she becomes the new Jailer in Zovaal's place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Don't worry too much, there's still the possibility she becomes the new Jailer in Zovaal's place.
    So she gets chained up in the Maw, powerless and alone, bereft of her rightful Arbiter power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    So she gets chained up in the Maw, powerless and alone, bereft of her rightful Arbiter power?
    Or she becomes the new Zovaal, basically acting as WoW's version of Lucifer in charge of the torments of the deeply and profoundly damned.
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  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    It already has. Genn and Sky-Admiral rogers in Legion were the one's who started the war again in Legion. Yrel with the Mag'har, even if she is just an ally instead of official.
    Hot takes bro, they didn't start those conflicts either m9, Horde always is the agressor and when they also go straight for civilian targets as endorsed by leadership while the one instance of the alliance doing that was not.

    I play both factions, I do not have a faction biased. I see both factions for what they are <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Or she becomes the new Zovaal, basically acting as WoW's version of Lucifer in charge of the torments of the deeply and profoundly damned.
    That wasn't Zovaal's role, though. In fact, that's not actually a role for any of the known afterlives.

    Zovaal was originally the Arbiter, and after his rebellion, simply a prisoner that then staged a breakout. The Maw wasn't intended as anything more than a dumping ground for unusable/dangerous souls. Pelagos is already taking over his actual job, so there's nothing left for Sylvanas to actually take, unless we want to imprison her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrowseer View Post
    Hot takes bro, they didn't start those conflicts either m9, Horde always is the agressor and when they also go straight for civilian targets as endorsed by leadership while the one instance of the alliance doing that was not.

    I play both factions, I do not have a faction biased. I see both factions for what they are <3
    In Legion, it was very much Genn and Rogers leading the attack. Anduin even specificially told them to avoid getting into conflict, which they actively ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    That wasn't Zovaal's role, though. In fact, that's not actually a role for any of the known afterlives.

    Zovaal was originally the Arbiter, and after his rebellion, simply a prisoner that then staged a breakout. The Maw wasn't intended as anything more than a dumping ground for unusable/dangerous souls. Pelagos is already taking over his actual job, so there's nothing left for Sylvanas to actually take, unless we want to imprison her.
    I think we rolled from jokey aside to a serious topic in record time.

    I didn't say that was Zovaal's original role or his immediate plight following his attempted coup, but it was kind of the role he was serving in when we arrived in the Shadowlands. The substance of the joke was that it would be equally distasteful (to me) to have Sylvanas become either Arbiter or the Jailer. Now, having explained the already unfunny joke in-depth, we can celebrate having arrived at a negative humor value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    I think we rolled from jokey aside to a serious topic in record time.

    I didn't say that was Zovaal's original role or his immediate plight following his attempted coup, but it was kind of the role he was serving in when we arrived in the Shadowlands. The substance of the joke was that it would be equally distasteful (to me) to have Sylvanas become either Arbiter or the Jailer. Now, having explained the already unfunny joke in-depth, we can celebrate having arrived at a negative humor value.
    I'm sure we can find a way to drive it further into the ground. Provided we can find a way to excavate the area so we can actually find it. Finding is good. I need a thesaurus.

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