Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Corvus]

Man, the Copeviet Union is still trying to pass off their loses on Snake Island as Ukrainian ones. They released a video of what they said were dead Ukrainians but forgot to remove the belts with the very obvious Russian Navy insignias on them. Oops.

[Bakis]

It"s now official. Social democratic party in Sweden as expected are also in favor. That means an overwhelming majority, for Sweden along with Finland to apply for NATO membership.

[Iphie]

So it's unlikely that this country will seek NATO membership but wouldn't that be the icing on the cake...

[zealo]

So it's unlikely that this country will seek NATO membership but wouldn't that be the icing on the cake...

Will not happen. They've absolutely no reason to, they're completely surrounded by countries with no hostile intent towards them whatsoever.

[Iphie]

I know, but the sheer fact that they are even doing some investigation into it seems like a shift. Anyway, it crossed my path and I was surprised.

[Kronik85]

Is that why Putin has had Russian fighter jets and bombers do mock raids and drills on Finland for years?
Must be Putin's idea of the Russian-neighbor relationship.

Yes because being within Russia's sphere of influence requires you to accept that your own security needs must be assessed through the Russian lens and fall secondary to Russia's interests which should be your primary concern.

If Ukraine had realised this then it wouldn't have forced Russia's hand to start a genocide.

[Lahis]

Yes because being within Russia's sphere of influence requires you to accept that your own security needs must be assessed through the Russian lens and fall secondary to Russia's interests which should be your primary concern.

If Ukraine had realised this then it wouldn't have forced Russia's hand to start a genocide.

SO how many rubles are you paid for this shit?

[Fantomen]

Is that why Putin has had Russian fighter jets and bombers do mock raids and drills on Finland for years?
Must be Putin's idea of the Russian-neighbor relationship.

Russia routinely make the same typ of mock bombers strike agents Sweden. NATO must give Putin a price for best recruter for NATO.

[Kronik85]

SO how many rubles are you paid for this shit?

/Facepalm.

I was going to post that obvious sarcasm is sarcasm but I also posted knowing that what I was writing was legitimately the Russian take on issues of security so...my bad I guess. I'll put /s next time.

[zealo]

Yes because being within Russia's sphere of influence requires you to accept that your own security needs must be assessed through the Russian lens and fall secondary to Russia's interests which should be your primary concern.

If Ukraine had realised this then it wouldn't have forced Russia's hand to start a genocide.

Hot Take, Russia does not inherently have any right to have a ”sphere of influence” just because the soviet union had its boot on the neck of bunch of countries in eastern europe.

If the Ivans don’t like what their own actions are driving their neighbours into doing, they can go fuck themselves.

[Makabreska]

Hot Take, Russia does not inherently have any right to have a ”sphere of influence” just because the soviet union had its boot on the neck of bunch of countries in eastern europe.

Unfortunately, those dumb, stuck in the past soviet heads never realized that, hence all the issues they caused in this century. All of this because of a lost Cold War complex.

[Forogil]

It"s now official. Social democratic party in Sweden as expected are also in favor. That means an overwhelming majority, for Sweden along with Finland to apply for NATO membership.

The most interesting is that Russia seems cool with both Finland and Sweden joining NATO

https://thehill.com/news/3488987-fin...n-nato-calmly/
Finnish president Niinistö, told CNN’s “State of the Union” that Putin’s reaction during the phone call was a “surprise.”

The surprise was that he took [the news] so calmly.

and

Moscow opposes the expansion of NATO, but the inclusion of Finland and Sweden in the bloc won’t become an existential threat to it

, Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov told Sky News on Friday.
(Translation of "existential threat" for OP: Russia will not launch nuclear missiles against Finland and Sweden.)

[Iphie]

The most interesting is that Russia seems cool with both Finland and Sweden joining NATO

https://thehill.com/news/3488987-fin...n-nato-calmly/
Finnish president Niinistö, told CNN’s “State of the Union” that Putin’s reaction during the phone call was a “surprise.”

and
, Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov told Sky News on Friday.
(Translation of "existential threat" for OP: Russia will not launch nuclear missiles against Finland and Sweden.)

Historically Finland hasn't really made any claims on russian soil, except for the obvious independence thing and the Continuation War, and neither has Sweden. Now I don't trust putin, but it just might be that they understand that Finland and Sweden are purely there for defense, fat chance of them understanding that, I know. Also, wasting nukes on Finland, Sweden and Norway seems kinda silly. Yes, there are those who want Karelia back, but honestly from what I hear it's a neglected shithole which is thoroughly russified and NO country close to russia is currently wanting to have a sizeable russian minority.

Meanwhile both Ukraine and Belarus have been used as highways into russia in the past (and the same kinda goes from the east via Mongolia).

Still, the mild response is odd to say the least. (or it could just be an acknowledgement that they can't do shit about it right now, short of nuking the place and that would be stupid.)

[Makabreska]

The most interesting is that Russia seems cool with both Finland and Sweden joining NATO

https://thehill.com/news/3488987-fin...n-nato-calmly/
Finnish president Niinistö, told CNN’s “State of the Union” that Putin’s reaction during the phone call was a “surprise.”

and
, Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov told Sky News on Friday.
(Translation of "existential threat" for OP: Russia will not launch nuclear missiles against Finland and Sweden.)

Nothing really surprising about that. Ruskies ain't stupid and those countries made it clear they want to join NATO after the invasion. All is going as expected in that regard. Putlers and his team outrage was for the masses. What was he supposed to do, curse and threaten Finnish president on the phone? But they are definitely NOT cool about all this situation. It's a major blunder for the country who started this war under "push NATO away" slogan.

[Gorsameth]

The most interesting is that Russia seems cool with both Finland and Sweden joining NATO

https://thehill.com/news/3488987-fin...n-nato-calmly/
Finnish president Niinistö, told CNN’s “State of the Union” that Putin’s reaction during the phone call was a “surprise.”

and
, Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov told Sky News on Friday.
(Translation of "existential threat" for OP: Russia will not launch nuclear missiles against Finland and Sweden.)

I mean, they can't do anything about it. So claiming its a threat and cannot be allowed just makes them look weaker when they don't prevent it from happening.

[PhaelixWW]

NATO must give Putin a price for best recruter for NATO.

Already done!

[Fantomen]

Still, the mild response is odd to say the least.

No its totaly logic, Russia have try to scare Sweden and Finland to not join NATO, by harsh words and mock nuclear strikes. It failed. To continue the sabre-rattling is counterproductive, becuse if the sabre-rattling "succeed" Sweden and Finland will demand NATO troops, and maybe even NATO nuclear wepons. Hence aggravate the Russian strategic position, so Russia change tactic and try to play nice toward Sweden and Finland, so they do not demand NATO troops.

- - - Updated - - -

Already done!

That was fast..... ; )

[Dadwen]

are they all just drunk over there at this point???

Bonnie and Clyde photo bizarrely shown at Russia’s World War II celebration

[Iphie]

No its totaly logic, Russia have try to scare Sweden and Finland to not join NATO, by harsh words and mock nuclear strikes. It failed. To continue the sabre-rattling is counterproductive, becuse if the sabre-rattling "succeed" Sweden and Finland will demand NATO troops, and maybe even NATO nuclear wepons. Hence aggravate the Russian strategic position, so Russia change tactic and try to play nice toward Sweden and Finland, so they do not demand NATO troops.

Eh, Sweden has already said they'll apply but they don't want Nukes or Nato bases on Swedish soil. As for the carrot, putin is not really the carrot kinda guy. Finland will most likely host bases as they already do training on Finnish soil so that would just make it easier. Niinistö has a reasonable working relationship with putin though so it could very well been a base level of cordiality. (as far as I know putin had told Niinistö he could always call him whenever he wanted the last time they spoke before last Saturday.)

[Santti]

are they all just drunk over there at this point???

Are they trying to pass them as Russian? I mean, they have already called dips on Columbus, Latin alphabet, Genghis Khan, and the discovery and colonization of South America.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...295747?lang=en