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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    are they all just drunk over there at this point???

    Bonnie and Clyde photo bizarrely shown at Russia’s World War II celebration
    That's bad... but not as bad as Russia using a picture of WW2 Ukrainian pilot Petro Dziuba in a poster for their May 9th celebration this year, even as they bomb the town in which he grew up and the cemetery in which he's buried.
    A Russian poster celebrating Victory Day on May 9 depicts a Soviet pilot. The photo was published by Russian journalist Tatiana Felgenhauer.

    This pilot is a Ukrainian Petro Dziuba, who fought in World War II and shot down 16 German planes. He was born in Kostiantynivka in the Donetsk region and lived in Kharkiv, where he died in 1965. One of Kharkiv's avenues is named after him. Both Kostiantynivka and Kharkiv suffered significantly from Russian shelling in 2022.

    Dziuba was buried in Kharkiv's G10 Cemetery, one of the nine bombed by the Russian army.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    are they all just drunk over there at this point???

    Bonnie and Clyde photo bizarrely shown at Russia’s World War II celebration

    There's a lot more. Pictures where they photoshopped the Soviet flag over the US flag at Iwo Jima, pictures from 40's brand logos and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    India is on Russia's "side" in that they need military equipment, fuel, and food that they aren't as able to easily replace as other countries. And the military equipment isn't to deter "the west," it's to deter China and Pakistan.

    They don't give a flying fuck about Russia or NATO or "tampering western interests."



    I'm sorry did the USA tell Russia to invade Ukraine?

    Russia is to blame for this entire affair. Full stop.

    The US didn't make it happen. The US is supporting Ukraine because it's in the US' interests, Just like how it's in the EU's interests, to see a hostile foreign nation who has invested heavily in international political subterfuge, interference and violent expansionist tendencies run by an autocratic dictator smacked down.

    And even if you view that self-interest cynically, the US' and EU's interests at this moment happen to be working to save innocent lives, punish insolent invaders, and help a country maintain its own sovereignty. So their interests currently align with what is "right." Russia chose to invade in a deluded attempt to rebuild the USSR. Ukraine chose to fight for their freedom, and it's a fight worth supporting.

    Whataboutism isn't going to help you here. This is Russia's war, Russia's war crimes, Russia's collapsed economy, Russia's dead soldiers and Russia's ongoing train wreck.
    Seems like a pretty obvious troll tbh. Claims half the globe is on Russia's side, yet the UN resolution was 141 for condemnation, 35 abstaining, and 5 against. "Half the globe" my ass. Not even half the globe is neutral, let alone on Russia's side.

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    Well here we go.



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    Quote Originally Posted by korijenkins View Post
    Seems like a pretty obvious troll tbh. Claims half the globe is on Russia's side, yet the UN resolution was 141 for condemnation, 35 abstaining, and 5 against. "Half the globe" my ass. Not even half the globe is neutral, let alone on Russia's side.
    Like half the global population since China + India are what now ? 3 billions or 4 combined ? Then you add Africa country which have no love for westerners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Well here we go.

    That's a nice pincer they have there, just finish that off and then cross the river and south to Izyum via Kupiansk would be a good idea I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by korijenkins View Post
    Seems like a pretty obvious troll tbh. Claims half the globe is on Russia's side, yet the UN resolution was 141 for condemnation, 35 abstaining, and 5 against. "Half the globe" my ass. Not even half the globe is neutral, let alone on Russia's side.
    To be fair, the countries of half the world's population abstained or voted "no".

    Not that I disagree with your point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Like half the global population since China + India are what now ? 3 billions or 4 combined ? Then you add Africa country which have no love for westerners.
    That doesn't mean that they are on Russia's side - because they have a greater understanding of the cost of war, and who is at fault:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    That's a nice pincer they have there, just finish that off and then cross the river and south to Izyum via Kupiansk would be a good idea I guess.
    Ukraine also have more long-shooting artillery now so it seems that they can target the supply lines to Izyum from the re-gains in the counter-offensive, even without advancing further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    That doesn't mean that they are on Russia's side - because they have a greater understanding of the cost of war, and who is at fault:
    They are not on the Russian side, but they are not on our side either. And they still buy stuff from Russia since they are more of the "interested friend" kind. If push come to shove and they are forced to chose, not sure they would pick our side. Maybe, but still not a 100% chance.

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    Love to see Ukraine ripping the top of the jaw clean off

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    Man that is a lot of craters:


    Makes russan losses more realistic at least. 1500 dead/missing russan soldiers and 80 destroyed tanks/other stuff (or abandoned) over 8 days of a fight.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    Ukraine also have more long-shooting artillery now so it seems that they can target the supply lines to Izyum from the re-gains in the counter-offensive, even without advancing further.
    yeah, so yellow here is Ukrainian range and red is russian range, and now those big ones from the Netherlands and Germany are on the way...their range is 30-60km dependant on ammunition, they're easily out ranging the russians. It's shocking to see the difference.:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    yeah, so yellow here is Ukrainian range and red is russian range, and now those big ones from the Netherlands and Germany are on the way...their range is 30-60km dependant on ammunition, they're easily out ranging the russians. It's shocking to see the difference.:
    Once they get fully trained on the new equipment, it'll be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    They are not on the Russian side, but they are not on our side either. And they still buy stuff from Russia since they are more of the "interested friend" kind. If push come to shove and they are forced to chose, not sure they would pick our side. Maybe, but still not a 100% chance.
    As long as China is around, push comes to shove, India will pick the US side.

    India seizes $725 million China's Xiaomi over remittances

    My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that rot.

    The Philippine's military have close ties to the US. The US & Philippine's militaries have started working on shared military's bases.

    Same with Indonesia. Jokowi would like to stay neutral. However, Indonesian military has very close ties to the US. Annual joint trainings with Hawaii and California National Guards, submarine base in Natuna, joint Maritime Training Center, etc.

    I guarantee that if they have to choose that they will pick the US.

    Ultimately, it comes down to economy. In terms of export/import, the US/EU alliance is worth 100 times that of Russia. That is true even for country like Vietnam.

    The problem with self-sufficient fortress economy is that the country ended with no shared economic interests with other countries.
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    Russia's ever shrinking goals for envelopment. And its doubtful they can even pull the latest modest plans off.



    The British are estimating that Russia has lost one third of the combat ground forces it initially assembled for the invasion. That was the bulk of their 'professional' army. Reportedly things are going so well that they are stripping ship crews of their naval vessels to replenish naval infantry brigades that have been chewed up. Given that naval crews aren't exactly trained for ground combat, its just going to keep getting worse.

    The Donets river crossing disaster is even filtering through to the Russian military bloggers, some of who are embedded with Russian forces. They are still blaming bad commanders rather than Putin but its a start.

    And the Russian ambassador at the US has hinted that there are some in the Kremlin who want the whole thing over with. Not him, of course. Don't want to suicide out of the window naturally. He is adamant that they will never surrender. Never. No body has been calling for Russia to surrender. That the Russians are talking about it may be a sign that they can see things are going very badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    As long as China is around, push comes to shove, India will pick the US side.

    India seizes $725 million China's Xiaomi over remittances

    My enemy's enemy is my friend and all that rot.

    The Philippine's military have close ties to the US. The US & Philippine's militaries have started working on shared military's bases.

    Same with Indonesia. Jokowi would like to stay neutral. However, Indonesian military has very close ties to the US. Annual joint trainings with Hawaii and California National Guards, submarine base in Natuna, joint Maritime Training Center, etc.

    I guarantee that if they have to choose that they will pick the US.

    Ultimately, it comes down to economy. In terms of export/import, the US/EU alliance is worth 100 times that of Russia. That is true even for country like Vietnam.

    The problem with self-sufficient fortress economy is that the country ended with no shared economic interests with other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Your link is busted.
    Thank you. Fixed below.

    India Seizes $725 Million China's Xiaomi Over Remittances

    Tension between India and China kept increasing. Russia is not going to side with India against China. Like it or not, India's only option is US/EU/AUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Thank you. Fixed below.

    India Seizes $725 Million China's Xiaomi Over Remittances

    Tension between India and China kept increasing. Russia is not going to side with India against China. Like it or not, India's only option is US/EU/AUS.
    Most India's military equipment is from Russia. It would cost them a lot of money if they had to rebuy all that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    They are not on the Russian side, but they are not on our side either. And they still buy stuff from Russia since they are more of the "interested friend" kind. If push come to shove and they are forced to chose, not sure they would pick our side. Maybe, but still not a 100% chance.
    Russia literally can't handle a country the third of its size. The aid Ukraine is getting is like 1/10th of what would count as pocket change of the agregate military spending capacity of NATO, which still by all intents and purposes remains a fully peace time economy.

    If Western countries really leaned into this there would be no comparison worth discussing.

    So why in the gods green earth would anyone willingly side with Russia in any meaningful way? I mean countries like Belarus don't have a choice, yet they still don't have troops in the fight, but even countries that are well within the Russian sphere of influence refuse to side with Russia on this, like Kazakhstan.

    Do you legit think, there's any scenario, ever, anywhere, where India would go -Yeah! Let's go to war with the US and EU.....for Russia....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Like half the global population since China + India are what now ? 3 billions or 4 combined ? Then you add Africa country which have no love for westerners.
    1) They're both not even 3 billion, but what does a billion more matter, when you're trying to prove something with nothing to back it up.

    2) 4/5 of the worlds population support the Ukraine and the West, source? My feelings on the matter. besides China and India are just 1 billion people (love making up numbers to support my feelings)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Most India's military equipment is from Russia. It would cost them a lot of money if they had to rebuy all that stuff.
    Who says they'd have to replace it? Russia does not have some magic remote to Russian made equipment, which enables them to disable it.

    There are several countries, including India, who would rather not be pulled into this conflict.

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/04/1115782

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