Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Gabriel]

Yeah...

In all seriousness I don't think appeasement is appropriate but we shouldn't go full Versailles on Russia either.

You are correct. We should go full post WW2 Germany on Russia.

[Corvus]

Versailles gets a lot more blame than it deserves. It was the Great Depression more than anything that led to WW2.

Weirdly, the US was loaning money to Germany prior to the great depression which was then used to pay reperations.

[Kuntantee]

The Ukrainians are really not happy with Macron at the moment with his latest statement about not humiliating Putin.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61691816

Tell you what, Macron, why don't you appease him by giving him 20% of France?

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20% of comrades without running water are lucky. Means they not have to pay for expensive toilets and sinks.

https://archive.ph/Pd6u5

More on how the sanctions are sending Russia back 30 years. Even sinks, toilets and taps are becoming hard to get.

Russia is playing dirty with their wheat blockage. World is heading to a colossal food crisis. It will become much more apparent next winter. People seek compromise even if it is a sacrifice Ukrainians' to make.

[Gorsameth]

My first thought when I read that was, so he means don't repeat Versailles? Sounds sensible to me, and the, very predictable, response was exactly as expected. I don't mind giving the russians a bloody nose, but we need to guard against a sentiment of revanchism to take root.

In what world is that even a consideration? Russia itself is under no threat, no one is going to tell Russia to disarm if they lose this conflict.

Russia losing means their army goes home (alive or in a box) and that's the end of it.
Once the Russian Army is out of Ukraine I expect a fair bit of the more impactful sanctions to drop, as the EU wants to relieve pressure off their own economy. While keeping some meaningless embargos that don't actually have much impact to put up a show to the public as still being somewhat against Russia.

The idea that Russia would be humiliated through tough terms by the international community after a loss is based on nothing. (not counting the humiliation Russia has already inflicted on itself by showing the entire world they are no longer a superpower).

[Yunru]

Wana know what is realy funny. Ukraine forces are right now using Chuikov strategy of hugging the enemy, so russans cant use artilery in a city.

[Kante]

Wana know what is realy funny. Ukraine forces are right now using Chuikov strategy of hugging the enemy, so russans cant use artilery in a city.

Seems to be working so far.

[Poopymonster]

Wana know what is realy funny. Ukraine forces are right now using Chuikov strategy of hugging the enemy, so russans cant use artilery in a city.

I have zero doubts they'd shell them anyways. It'd be Ukrainian soldiers and urban warfare fodder from LPR.
Using the LPR helps pad their numbers.
No Russians were in the city during the attempted renovation of the city's infrastructure to meet current standards in Russia.
No Russians were hurt in the making of this atrocity.

[Corvus]

What appears to be the first damaged T62M.

[qwerty123456]

Fuck that. We should absolutely try to humiliate Putin. Maybe he will finally do the right thing and kill himself if the West laughs at him enough.

With how anti-gay most of Russia is someone should deepfake Putin taking a bunch of dicks. They would probably be more willing to get rid of him over that instead of just getting a bunch of their kids killed and destroying their economy.

[Slant]

My first thought when I read that was, so he means don't repeat Versailles? Sounds sensible to me, and the, very predictable, response was exactly as expected. I don't mind giving the russians a bloody nose, but we need to guard against a sentiment of revanchism to take root.

That sense is already there, it will undoubtedly prevail no matter the outcome of this war and this whole being attacked from all sides idea is so deeply ingrained in Russian culture that "a repeat of Versailles" should not be the discussion to be had.

Yes. I said it. Let's assume Russia wins this war, they will still want more, if only to punish those who dared to oppose. To punish all countries that helped Ukraine.

If you don't put the dog down now, he will bite you tomorrow.

What you need to do is break Russia. Much like Germany after WW2. Defeat them to such an extent that there is no doubt at all that the mother of beatdowns is going to happen if they don't seriously reflect on the bullshit they've pulled since WW2 and change their ways. Due to the natural paranoia in Russian culture, we have accomodated their bullshit for over 30 years now. It's time to end this. They started the fight, we better make sure we're the ones that end it.

[Poopymonster]

With how anti-gay most of Russia is someone should deepfake Putin taking a bunch of dicks. They would probably be more willing to get rid of him over that instead of just getting a bunch of their kids killed and destroying their economy.

Lots of this stuff running around. A real power(bottom) couple.

[Iphie]

Dvornikov didn't deliver.

The, apparent, new one has been in Syria as well. Setting aside funny business, last I heard replacing the overall commander of a theatre without a good cause wasn't the best idea ever though.

[jonnysensible]

do another general get iced? ooooof

[Corvus]

Another general is reported to have been iced, but it want Dvornikov. He apparently just got fired because he wasn't winning.

With the current state of the Russian army, I doubt anyone could satisfy Putin and win.

[Poopymonster]

Another general is reported to have been iced, but it want Dvornikov. He apparently just got fired because he wasn't winning.

With the current state of the Russian army, I doubt anyone could satisfy Putin and win.

The executions shall continue until morale improves!

[Kallisto]

Another general is reported to have been iced, but it want Dvornikov. He apparently just got fired because he wasn't winning.

With the current state of the Russian army, I doubt anyone could satisfy Putin and win.

Putin will soon try to raise Zhukov from the grave in his attempts to win. Only for Zhukov to turn on him. Not because of Morals or anything like that.

[Corvus]

Spain is reportedly going to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, the first western tanks to be supplied.

https://www.politico.eu/article/spai...-pais-reports/

It is meant to be around 40 older model tanks but still a lot more advanced than what Russia has in terms of thermal optics, gyrostabilisers etc

[Makabreska]

Heh, Lavrov had to cancel trip to Serbia, because it's neighbouring countries said fuck off to his plane.

[Forogil]

Lots of this stuff running around. A real power(bottom) couple.

Obviously the heads are swapped - we all know that Putin doesn't have chest hair from that horse photo, while Trump has been seen with some.
(And what's up with Trump's left hand?)

[Voidwielder]

Pretty cool account, yes it's mostly Russian but reading about cases such as this is profoundly funny.
https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...85063173373953


I am cackling.