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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    I sometimes wonder - and I'm not really into this and it shouldn't happen, but I still wonder because the country I grew up in faced something like this - what would happen if Ukraine gave up on the south/east and say "we lost" and the west would marshall-plan the rest of Ukraine into a "proper" european country and rebuild everything while Russia will most likely struggle to rebuild the infrastructure in the occupied regions since they basically destroyed 90%+ of it.

    I'm just trying to imagine how Russia would obviously try to pump money in there as well to not lose to the "West", just like the Soviets did in East Germany (which was still pathetic, relatively - so pathetic that we still spend money to equalize the west and east).. money they probably won't have because the sanctions won't stop. Formerly important industry such as the Azovstal steel works are completely destroyed anyway... in fact, they are already planing to demolish it.. or what is left of it.
    Would Russia accept the status quo when Ukraine would say "okay, you get to keep the regions you conquered, but since you are not to be trusted, we will join NATO/EU"
    And if they don't, wouldn't that officially and completely destroy the picture of their propaganda machine that tells people that they are not trying to invade a sovereign country and all that non-sense?
    They did fuck all with Karelia after they took it so I doubt Donbass would be any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Orcs also very poor. They have to steal basic shit we take for granted here in the civilized world. Also their shit government is stealing farming equipment and so on.

    Shillcker: "almost 80% of ruzzki households have running water".
    lol I almost forgot that one. Most western countries have more households with internet than Russia has with running water, unreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    lol I almost forgot that one. Most western countries have more households with internet than Russia has with running water, unreal.
    Hah! Glorious russia wins yet again! Less people there are susceptible for Western internet degeneration! Besides, running water is bad for you okay?

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    "If there is no water in the tap, means Jews drank it all."

    A quote from a satirical song by a well known Soviet actor, singer and songwriter Vysockij from many decades ago. The song basically was about various Soviet life issues and mocking of excuses for them.

    Known issue from times immemorial. There is always some sort of conspiracy at work by the enemies or somehow it's not govt fault.

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    This is by the way I keep telling here that what you see now is not Putin or something - it's the system that's there for hundreds of years that changes face and slogans from time to time.

    This is why I am almost sure that eventually the system will drop Putin and pretend things are totally going to be different now - only to reveal another 2 decades down the road that nothing really changed... again.
    All my ignores are permanently filtered out and invisible to me. Responding to my posts with nonsense or insults is pointless, you're likely already invisible and if not - 3 clicks away. One ignore is much better than 3 pages of trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    lol I almost forgot that one. Most western countries have more households with internet than Russia has with running water, unreal.
    As a finn, I find it kind of hard to believe that we have basically a 3rd world country as a neighbor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    As a finn, I find it kind of hard to believe that we have basically a 3rd world country as a neighbor.
    St. Petersburg and Moscow keep up an appearance of a developed and civilized country, but the further away you get from them, the Whittier it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    St. Petersburg and Moscow keep up an appearance of a developed and civilized country, but the further away you get from them, the Whittier it gets.
    Look at what they did to Viipuri. Even though it looks mostly kinda idyllic, there's also lots of buildings that are just left to rot.

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    This video is fascinating about what's happening now in the Ukraine war.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZioTavNy3c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    St. Petersburg and Moscow keep up an appearance of a developed and civilized country, but the further away you get from them, the Whittier it gets.
    St Petersburg is basically like any western capital (at least, it was when I was there in the 2000's). Moscow is more like your stalin run of the mill capital with red cross on some building and such. It does not look like any western city, but it is still okayish to live in there by any low western standards. Outside those, the more you go far, the more you go back in time. Some town are still in the industrial age while in the countryside, you go back as far as medieval age since they have no running water nor electricity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Glad I did that. I don’t need a gun porn channel fucking up my recommendations.
    hover over a video in your history, click the X to remove and stop it from polluting your history.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Lievrov is at it again in his attempts to justify the war, basically saying France would invade Belgium if it banned French. Firstly, no it wouldn't, and secondly, Russian is not banned in Ukraine to start with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post


    Glad I did that. I don’t need a gun porn channel fucking up my recommendations.
    Yeah...I'm not very impressed with him considering he said that the Finnish army mostly consists of low morale conscripts and that the reserves are anything from fresh ex-conscripts to men in their sixties (by which he means: of questionable quality). Additionally his assessment of the Finnish artillery is similarly laughable. He's not done his homework when it comes to the Finnish army.

    While the Finland does know conscription those who serve are anything but low morale.
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-05-30 at 11:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Lievrov is at it again in his attempts to justify the war, basically saying France would invade Belgium if it banned French. Firstly, no it wouldn't, and secondly, Russian is not banned in Ukraine to start with.
    The wallons would be angry but France wouldnt invade belgium haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    The wallons would be angry but France wouldnt invade belgium haha
    On the other hand, if Flanders declared independence, a number of polls have shown substantial support among Walloons and French for reunification.

    See Rattachism.

    But anyway it would most likely be a hot topic of contention when it comes to the EU's stance on minority languages rights (a 40% minority at that).
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    ~ Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang on Essays on Mind and Matter

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    A French journalist has been killed when the evacuation vehicle he was on was attacked by the Russians.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Lievrov is at it again in his attempts to justify the war, basically saying France would invade Belgium if it banned French. Firstly, no it wouldn't, and secondly, Russian is not banned in Ukraine to start with.
    Makes sense, after all currently every country is at war with every other country that's using a different language.

    While it sounds like ramblings of a madman, many russians would only nod with understanding. For generations they have been told that the #1 thing that matters is the size, power and areas of influence of The Motherland, and the weaker should just get absorbed by it unless they wanna get hurt. How could they imagine same rules do not apply everywhere else in the world.

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    Army uprising is happening:


    Russan who shots this general will be a hero to Ukraine people.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Army uprising is happening:


    Russan who shots this general will be a hero to Ukraine people.
    Will be a good day when Ruskies start shooting eachother.

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    No missiles that can reach into russia

    Given that russia was very clear about this I'm not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    "If there is no water in the tap, means Jews drank it all."

    A quote from a satirical song by a well known Soviet actor, singer and songwriter Vysockij from many decades ago. The song basically was about various Soviet life issues and mocking of excuses for them.

    Known issue from times immemorial. There is always some sort of conspiracy at work by the enemies or somehow it's not govt fault.

    - - - Updated - - -

    This is by the way I keep telling here that what you see now is not Putin or something - it's the system that's there for hundreds of years that changes face and slogans from time to time.

    This is why I am almost sure that eventually the system will drop Putin and pretend things are totally going to be different now - only to reveal another 2 decades down the road that nothing really changed... again.
    The rest of the world would be perfectly content to let Russia continue to rot itself as it sees fit no matter who runs it, just so long as it stops going around invading and/or generally messing with other countries.

    Various pro-Russia shills around here seem to act like everyone always has Russia constantly on their mind and Russia is this grand, looming presence they all fear and revere... when the simple reality is that nobody would give a single flying fuck about what Russia was up to, or what it was doing to its people, or how it was failing them, if they'd stop monkeying around in the business of other nations. They go on about how "Russia has to bully/invade/threaten others, or else NATO would invade them!" when NATO really only exists to temper Russia's constant ambitions of bullying, invading, and threatening others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    A French journalist has been killed when the evacuation vehicle he was on was attacked by the Russians.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...ost_type=share
    "Was killed by Ukrainians to make Russia look bad, just like every other person in Ukraine that has died since special military operation started, comrade" ~ Russia, probably.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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