Russian invasion of Ukraine

[YUPPIE]

No, not Ukraine advancing *into* Russia. Just advancing far enough to kick every Russian out, including those in Crimea. If it looks like they're going to retake Crimea like Zelenksy hopes, Putin will lose his marbles.

[PhaelixWW]

No, not Ukraine advancing *into* Russia. Just advancing far enough to kick every Russian out, including those in Crimea. If it looks like they're going to retake Crimea like Zelenksy hopes, Putin will lose his marbles.

No he won't... that's just your tendency to hyperbolize everything.

And Putin getting upset isn't the same thing as "cornered with no way out".

You're living in fantasyland again. What did we say about that?

[Kallisto]

No, not Ukraine advancing *into* Russia. Just advancing far enough to kick every Russian out, including those in Crimea. If it looks like they're going to retake Crimea like Zelenksy hopes, Putin will lose his marbles.

Zelensky has pretty much ruled out going into Crimea as it would be logistically insane due to how well defended it is and how much a bottleneck the peninsular is at its narrowest.

[YUPPIE]

Zelensky has pretty much ruled out going into Crimea as it would be logistically insane due to how well defended it is and how much a bottleneck the peninsular is at its narrowest.

then how come in recent speeches he proclaims liberating all of Ukraine

[Cynep]

Another song. You know by now whose fanboy I'm RPing, but really it's because they write songs relevant in this thread. It's amazing how all songs I posted here are written in a way that can be interpreted positively by (trigger warning) both sides. This video has numerous comments from Russians saying "I'm an orc and I like this song."

In 43 seconds and 10 lines the song manages to hint at the invasion while covering two cultural moments: first, Russian acceptance of the "Mordor" identity that they feel they're portrayed as by West; BTW I saw Russians call USA "elves" at least a few years ago, it predates current invasion, and probably Ukrainians just used it. Second is well-known Russian meme "[We'll nuke] entire world to dust. But later."

Orcs went out of Mordor
on the last dawn <== don't let YUPPIE notice these words, lol
They sang songs together
those battle orcs
About fate and about foreign land
and about mother at home
and about the orcish club [weapon, not social club]
to kill elves with
Entire world to dust
the rest, f*k it
Entire world, and to dust
the rest, f*k it

[XDurionX]

Second is well-known Russian meme "[We'll nuke] entire world to dust. But later."

Sssht, Yuppie is listening.

[PhaelixWW]

Sssht, Yuppie is listening.

I mean... it's basically saying that Russian threats of nuclear weapons are just bluffs.

Not that YUP would understand that, I'm guessing, so... yeah.

[Santti]

Sssht, Yuppie is listening.

Yuppie is Abe Simpson, yelling at clouds. Or perhaps rather, pointing at the cat and yelling "DEATH!".

Being careful is a lost cause, is what I'm saying.

[XDurionX]

Yuppie is Abe Simpson, yelling at clouds. Or perhaps rather, pointing at the cat and yelling "DEATH!".

Being careful is a lost cause, is what I'm saying.

I was rather mocking him than "being careful", but we don't have do encourage him, do we?

[Makabreska]

Radio Free Europe reports that a total of 12 Russian recruitment centres got burned down since start of the war. Guess Russians don't feel like enlisting.

[Corvus]

The chief economist at the institute of international finance has said they expect the Russian economy to collapse by 30% by the end of the year and exports to Russia are down 50% since the same time last year

https://mobile.twitter.com/RobinBroo...23028623237120

[Skulltaker]

then how come in recent speeches he proclaims liberating all of Ukraine

It's called Propaganda. How are you this thick? How many people do you think you can rally with 'We're going to retake all logistically and strategically feasible parts of Ukraine which excludes Crimea, sorry to say!'?

[Hansworst]

It's called Propaganda. How are you this thick? How many people do you think you can rally with 'We're going to retake all logistically and strategically feasible parts of Ukraine which excludes Crimea, sorry to say!'?

IIRC he was talking about the parts before February. Which excludes Crimea.

[jonnysensible]

looks like russian troops are storming Lyman today, i think they have air superiority there as well. Gonna be a rough day for the defenders.

[YUPPIE]

It's called Propaganda. How are you this thick? How many people do you think you can rally with 'We're going to retake all logistically and strategically feasible parts of Ukraine which excludes Crimea, sorry to say!'?

that's lying then. To be honest with you, off the topic of Putler for a moment, I've been very eyeful of this Zelenksy character.

He's won the favor of the entire world and was even named person of the year. If/when this war ends favorably for him, I just really want to believe he goes down the road of a real champion than suddenly betraying everyone's trust and/or going bad.

He's had plenty of faults before Ukraine that people are overlooking at the moment.

[jonnysensible]

that's lying then. To be honest with you, off the topic of Putler for a moment, I've been very eyeful of this Zelenksy character.

He's won the favor of the entire world and was even named person of the year. If/when this war ends favorably for him, I just really want to believe he goes down the road of a real champion than suddenly betraying everyone's trust and/or going bad.

He's had plenty of faults before Ukraine that people are overlooking at the moment.

such as? /10char

[Poopymonster]

such as? /10char

*cough*
HE GUNNA GIT US NOOKED! Y U NO SEE IT!? IT HABBENING! Y U NO STAHP HIM?

[Hansworst]

such as? /10char

Same sources Shillcker has I guess...

[Flarelaine]

Bla bla bla bla, Turkey is significantly more important to NATO than Sweden and Finland combined. Cope.

Debatable. Turkey got in to bottle up the Soviets in one sea. Now Sweden and Finland can help bottle Russia up in another. The importance is comparable. And while their armies may be weaker then Turkey's separately, together they probably pack as much a punch.

Having said all that, Turkey is still important and will not be given short shrift over this.

[YUPPIE]

such as? /10char

Ukraine was corrupt as fuck even before this war, read into how much of an issue that was. And while no one gives a fuck now evidently, Zelensky made sure to repress any Russian affluence in Ukraine, which Putler claims was "genocide" so he could do his evil invasion.

Now he's also forcing all men into conscription on the darker side, regardless of how they feel.

Also, while he's all up in arms with Biden now, he blatantly thought Trump was a fucking moron and piece of shit. Who knows what he actually thinks of America and whether his loyalty will waver.