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    Apparently the Azovstal fighters are being kept in 'satisfactory' conditions.

    I'll say I'm surprised, earlier there was Dutch news that the leader of the Donetsk separatists had invited western and other foreign observers to the trials as well. I guess they want some legitimacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Apparently the Azovstal fighters are being kept in 'satisfactory' conditions.

    I'll say I'm surprised, earlier there was Dutch news that the leader of the Donetsk separatists had invited western and other foreign observers to the trials as well. I guess they want some legitimacy.
    What "crime" are they being charged with, exactly? Defying Russia's attempt to invade their country?

    "we find the defenders illegal occupiers of this steel mill in Ukraine built by soviet hands illegally impeded Russia's naturalized right to do whatever the fuck we want to whoever we want, however we want de-nazify or fight the CIA chemical plants or have access to borscht recipes or whatever the fuck in a sovereign country our former territory that we really think we deserve back."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    What "crime" are they being charged with, exactly? Defying Russia's attempt to invade their country?

    "we find the defenders illegal occupiers of this steel mill in Ukraine built by soviet hands illegally impeded Russia's naturalized right to do whatever the fuck we want to whoever we want, however we want de-nazify or fight the CIA chemical plants or have access to borscht recipes or whatever the fuck in a sovereign country our former territory that we really think we deserve back."
    No doubt they will be charged with being 'nazis', though that isn't exactly a crime in Russia given just how many of them are there already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    What "crime" are they being charged with, exactly? Defying Russia's attempt to invade their country?

    "we find the defenders illegal occupiers of this steel mill in Ukraine built by soviet hands illegally impeded Russia's naturalized right to do whatever the fuck we want to whoever we want, however we want de-nazify or fight the CIA chemical plants or have access to borscht recipes or whatever the fuck in a sovereign country our former territory that we really think we deserve back."
    That seems the likely thing. Well, I suppose being part of a prohibited terrorist organisation? Anyway as much as I have my reservations with the Azov Battalion I'm glad that they are being treated decently, I'm not sure what to make of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    What "crime" are they being charged with, exactly? Defying Russia's attempt to invade their country?
    They wouldn't be put on trial by Russia, they'd be put on trial by DPR. The Azov regiment has spent the last 8 years fighting against the separatists in Donbas; the separatists have accused them of all sorts of crimes during that time.

    Whether or not those crimes are actually true is, I'm sure, entirely irrelevant to them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    They wouldn't be put on trial by Russia, they'd be put on trial by DPR. The Azov regiment has spent the last 8 years fighting against the separatists in Donbas; the separatists have accused them of all sorts of crimes during that time.

    Whether or not those crimes are actually true is, I'm sure, entirely irrelevant to them.
    I’m sure if certain posters were here they’d be telling us all about how terrible the warcrimes the defenders definitely committed were and how they were all certainly nazis and western lies are making us all sympathize with war criminal nazis.

    And in the same breath they’d tell us how it was impossible to know if Russia committed any war crimes in Ukraine because no official Russian sources exist to say they did and that it’s all just probably Western propaganda.
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    Seems like China might be starting to feel the effects of the war, as the foreign minister called for the international community to advance a ceasefire and for access to Ukraine's grain exports.

    They really should be telling Russia to pull out, but it is a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Seems like China might be starting to feel the effects of the war, as the foreign minister called for the international community to advance a ceasefire and for access to Ukraine's grain exports.

    They really should be telling Russia to pull out, but it is a start.
    But... but... YUPPERS promised us that China and Russia were, like, in "absolute unity". Absolunity? Hrm, whatever. Totes besties 4evah, either way.

    Are you saying that the YIPS was wrong? But how can that be? He's a prophet, haven't you heard?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    But... but... YUPPERS promised us that China and Russia were, like, in "absolute unity". Absolunity? Hrm, whatever. Totes besties 4evah, either way.

    Are you saying that the YIPS was wrong? But how can that be? He's a prophet, haven't you heard?

    Russia and China are bEsTiEs
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    But... but... YUPPERS promised us that China and Russia were, like, in "absolute unity". Absolunity? Hrm, whatever. Totes besties 4evah, either way.

    Are you saying that the YIPS was wrong? But how can that be? He's a prophet, haven't you heard?
    Besties for life (until food prices start skyrocketing and you rely on a lot of food imports to feed over a billion mouths.)

    Seriously, if there is one thing that could make the CCP wake up in cold sweats at night, it's a starving populace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Besties for life (until food prices start skyrocketing and you rely on a lot of food imports to feed over a billion mouths.)

    Seriously, if there is one thing that could make the CCP wake up in cold sweats at night, it's a starving populace.
    Which could be easily repurposed to fix said problem. They just lack the will.
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    Russia's Duma abolishes the age limit for contract soldiers in the armed forces, allowing men over 40 (and under 18) to now serve

    Sending a bunch of 14 year olds and 70 year olds isn't going to solve the manpower problems lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    Russia's Duma abolishes the age limit for contract soldiers in the armed forces, allowing men over 40 (and under 18) to now serve

    Sending a bunch of 14 year olds and 70 year olds isn't going to solve the manpower problems lads.
    I think you're mistaken about the lower age limit, all the news outlets I see are only mentioning the upper age limit. It wouldn't make sense either to scrap the lower age limit as the scrapping of the upper limit is specifically for:

    For the use of high-precision weapons, the operation of weapons and military equipment, highly professional specialists are needed. Experience shows that they become such by the age of 40-45.
    Of course, russia lying would not be surprising.

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    The rumours about the T62s do appear to be true.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fzm98JNzZdk

    These are Krushchev era tanks with a different calibre main gun to the rest of their tanks (so more load on the logistics) and require a 4 man crew as they don't have the autoloader newer tanks do. They are normally used for reservist units so it may mean reservists are being prepared to be thrown into the meatgrinder now too.

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    Russia is trying to use its blocking of food exports as blackmail now - they say they'll only allow it out if sanctions are lifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The rumours about the T62s do appear to be true.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fzm98JNzZdk

    These are Krushchev era tanks with a different calibre main gun to the rest of their tanks (so more load on the logistics) and require a 4 man crew as they don't have the autoloader newer tanks do. They are normally used for reservist units so it may mean reservists are being prepared to be thrown into the meatgrinder now too.

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    Russia is trying to use its blocking of food exports as blackmail now - they say they'll only allow it out if sanctions are lifted.
    Taking development countries as hostage, to put pressure on the western world. Stay classy Russia.

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    Ukrainian presidential spokesman says Russian troops outnumber Ukrainian forces by up to 7 to 1 in areas of Donbas now

    seems like it will get very bad in the donbas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Taking development countries as hostage, to put pressure on the western world. Stay classy Russia.
    Sadly some of the developing countries are retarded and will not blame Russia for this.

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    Ukrainian officials have announced the intent to take Donbas *and* Crimea by the end of 2022.

    https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-must-...104500595.html

    Hypothetically, if they achieve their goals, what happens with Russia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Ukrainian officials have announced the intent to take Donbas *and* Crimea by the end of 2022.

    Hypothetically, if they achieve their goals, what happens with Russia?
    It means that russian orcish army got obliterated back to their borders and therefore there's no existential threat to Russia that would make the monkey-face Lavrov to declare the usage of nuclear armaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Ukrainian officials have announced the intent to take Donbas *and* Crimea by the end of 2022.

    https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-must-...104500595.html

    Hypothetically, if they achieve their goals, what happens with Russia?
    That's one official saying it, and it's not Zelenskyy or the army. As important as the head of intelligence is he's not the decision maker here.

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