Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Gorsameth]

I think a lot will depends on 2024 election. If Trump is reelected, there is a chance Putin will make a move on the Baltic. Trump has already shown little interest in sending American troops to defend smaller countries of NATO, even floated the idea to leave NATO altogether. Plus we also know Trump tend to be on friendly term with Putin, even against US own agencies at times.

The paper tiger has been revealed for all to see. There is no doubt that NATO without the US will still utterly crush Russia if need be.

[ghotihook]

Yea speaking of 12 total, that's the total number produced of those you linked. Might aswell be talking of unicorns.

You beat me to it! Even in his own link it's theory and expected. Not tried and true produced for decades like many of the armaments being sent to Ukraine.

[Vankrys]

Nah.

Even if US were to leave NATO (fyi, NATO consists of more than just the US), Russia still couldn't do jack shit against the Baltic countries, which are part of NATO. They are stuck with Ukraine, for crying out loud. How do you think they'd fare against NATO, a much larger and modern military? Especially now that Russia is depleting it's own arsenal, with little hope of replenishing it any time soon, and having to resort to WW2 and Cold War weaponry?

Russia isn't invading anyone after Ukraine, for a long time.

yeah not saying they gonna win, just attack. As a Floridian youtuber says, foreign affairs is this international poker game where everybody cheats. And Putin is not feeling too hot healthwise right now. He might wanna go with bang, an all in in the baltics.

And yes, pretty sure a UK/France alliance alone can repel a Russian invasion.

[Mihalik]

Our reforms did not so much fail as they were gutted from the inside while the EU looked on and paid for it.

As someone with a large degree of cultural affinity towards Hungary (I am half Hungarian and speak the language to a conversational level, was raised eating the food, being told stories about the country and its history) the direction Hungary ended up taking is quite a sore spot.

[Crispin]

is it really so wrong to assume Russia will indeed attack Lithuania per threats? They are impulsive and have little regard for restraint.

Yes it's utterly stupid, now go back to the corner.

[Specialka]

Err, 30-46 km range with standard rounds? Is that a joke?

"Nothing comes close"?? How about 80km 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV

Is it 12 total like with HIMARS?

You do realize that the 16 CAESARS (if I remember well) already destroyed nearly 200 russian artillery ? Russian equipment is crap compared to western equivalent.

[YUPPIE]

so if it means much, adding to the pile, an hour ago Russia threatened Lithuania again.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cks-rail-goods

"serious consequences" is a step up from "must assess the situation"

[Shalcker]

Yeah, Lithuania isn't preventing access to Kaliningrad. They are following and enforcing sanctions on goods - Lithuania has no responsibility to allow foreign countries to use their (Lithuania) land for transport of goods.

If Russia would block Lithuanian ports - saying they have to do it to prevent counterfeit Russian gas/oil or whatever landing there by decree they'll pass - will you say that "Russia isn't preventing access to Lithuania, they still have roads and rail"?

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You do realize that the 16 CAESARS (if I remember well) already destroyed nearly 200 russian artillery ? Russian equipment is crap compared to western equivalent.

Could you give me a link?

I love tall tales.

[Ihavewaffles]

so if it means much, adding to the pile, an hour ago Russia threatened Lithuania again.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cks-rail-goods

"serious consequences" is a step up from "must assess the situation"

When you interfere with Russia accessing other parts of Russia, you are messing with their territorial integrity, which is what often starts wars between countries.

Did Russia make Lithuania go down this road? No.

Lithuania backing down would de-fuse this whole situation, but you seem only interested in escalating. Do you like problems, or something?

[Fuiking]

If Russia would block Lithuanian ports - saying they have to do it to prevent counterfeit Russian gas/oil or whatever landing there by decree they'll pass - will you say that "Russia isn't preventing access to Lithuania, they still have roads and rail"?

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Could you give me a link?

I love tall tales.

nice whataboutism there Shillcker

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When you interfere with Russia accessing other parts of Russia, you are messing with their territorial integrity, which is what often starts wars between countries.

Did Russia make Lithuania go down this road? No.

Lithuania backing down would de-fuse this whole situation, but you seem only interested in escalating. Do you like problems, or something?

hahaha are you serious? Its a fucking enclave, they have to supply via lithuanian infrastructure, if they say: ''well fuck you, Russia you cant use our railroads, or roads anymore to supply Koningsberg'' then its at there full right.

[Iphie]

so if it means much, adding to the pile, an hour ago Russia threatened Lithuania again.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cks-rail-goods

"serious consequences" is a step up from "must assess the situation"

Kicking out the ambassador falls under "serious consequences". While I'm not totally on board with Lithuania on this they have the right to do so and i doubt russia will try to attack Lithuania over this, as others have said, Kaliningrad is not cut off, just a bit harder to reach.

[Specialka]

If Russia would block Lithuanian ports - saying they have to do it to prevent counterfeit Russian gas/oil or whatever landing there by decree they'll pass - will you say that "Russia isn't preventing access to Lithuania, they still have roads and rail"?

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Could you give me a link?

I love tall tales.

Already posted a video a few posts back . You can YouTube subtitle

[Makabreska]

hahaha are you serious? Its a fucking enclave, they have to supply via lithuanian infrastructure, if they say: ''well fuck you, Russia you cant use our railroads, or roads anymore to supply Koningsberg'' then its at there full right.

Let's not forget you are responding to the guy whos last post here before disappearing was how Buchan didn't happen. He got mad that people opposed his "facts", so he took his toys and left. But it seems that Mother Russia calls her splendid defenders once more.

[Shalcker]

Kicking out the ambassador falls under "serious consequences". While I'm not totally on board with Lithuania on this they have the right to do so and i doubt russia will try to attack Lithuania over this, as others have said, Kaliningrad is not cut off, just a bit harder to reach.

I think just a threat of blockade could send Lithuanian freight insurance rates sky-high.

[Fuiking]

I think just a threat of blockade could send Lithuanian freight insurance rates sky-high.

Blockade what? there ports? isnt that an act of war in itself?

[Shalcker]

Already posted a video a few posts back . You can YouTube subtitle

There doesn't seem to be any mentions of CAESAR in any of your other posts.

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Blockade what? there ports? isnt that an act of war in itself?

Threat of it isn't, and given that Lithuania made first move it isn't obvious it can be seen as one-sided aggression to trigger Article 5.

...lots of other things could also suddenly happen by chance.

[Specialka]

There doesn't seem to be any mentions of CAESAR in any of your other posts.

The video is not only about those .

[Edge-]

I think just a threat of blockade could send Lithuanian freight insurance rates sky-high.

Again, Russia's strategy seems to be, "See how much harm we can cause you and global economies if you refuse to be our friend?"

Very friendly act. Maximum friendship.

Someone needs to change the collective diapers of the Russian oligarchy/leadership, because they've been shitting in it for weeks and it's building up. That's probably why they can't stop crying.

[Dezerte]

If Russia would block Lithuanian ports - saying they have to do it to prevent counterfeit Russian gas/oil or whatever landing there by decree they'll pass - will you say that "Russia isn't preventing access to Lithuania, they still have roads and rail"?

False analogy. The Baltic Sea is international waters and thus not Russia's to block.

[Edge-]

False analogy. The Baltic Sea is international waters and thus not Russia's to block.

I'm sure Russia will cite some ancient tzar's decree about the Baltic being Russian territory and claim that it's still legal and binding.