Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Marcellus1986]

"I think" is speculation. Your second post decided there in fact was a military target. Which is it? Can you confirm the target?

Oops he got caught. Minus 3 turnips for Shalcker Jr.

[Ihavewaffles]

"I think" is speculation. Your second post decided there in fact was a military target. Which is it? Can you confirm the target?

I know what Russian full-on war against civilians would look like, and this.is.not.it

Russians could carpet bomb kiev, lviv into oblivion if they wanted to.

They don't. So when they say they were after a military target, they are believable based on their scale of operations n what their targets have been.

Now, you can write all the bullshit you want about genocide n what other stupid buzzwords u want, but the elephant in the room is your accusations don't match Russia's capabilities, they could easily do much more, the fact that they don't should be telling.

[Marcellus1986]

I know what Russian full-on war against civilians would look like, and this.is.not.it

Russians could carpet bomb kiev, lviv into oblivion if they wanted to.

They don't. So when they say they were after a military target, they are believable based on their scale of operations n what their targets have been.

Now, you can write all the bullshit you want about genocide n what other stupid buzzwords u want, but the elephant in the room is your accusations don't match Russia's capabilities, they could easily do much more, the fact that they don't should be telling.

What they did to Mariupol and Severodonetsk and Lyschansk and other Ukrainian cities is the same crap they did to Grozny. The entire world is aware that Russia is all in on mass murdering civilians.

[Ihavewaffles]

Russian troops are in no condition to continue fighting without a rest and refit and Ukraine still has fresh troops it can rotate in and out of its defensive positions. Russia’s manpower reserves without calling for mobilization are limited. This is basic warfare 101. You wear your opponent down and fight a defensive war.

Also gtfoh with “they were probably trying to hit military targets”. They’ve been indiscriminately bombing population centers since the war began.

Are Ukrainians rotating troops in out of Lysychansk? Severodonetsk? Mariupol?

What part of loosing important strategic towns is it that you don't understand?

Sheesh, the copium is strong in you

And unlike the stupid accusations that we are part of a troll farm, we aren't, then we would constantly post here. And frankly, I am not here to reply to people unwilling to admit loosing Lysychansk n Severodonetsk is a major defeat, pretending the war is going fine. I feel like I'm arguing with children.

[Fuiking]

I know what Russian full-on war against civilians would look like, and this.is.not.it

Russians could carpet bomb kiev, lviv into oblivion if they wanted to.

They don't. So when they say they were after a military target, they are believable based on their scale of operations n what their targets have been.

Now, you can write all the bullshit you want about genocide n what other stupid buzzwords u want, but the elephant in the room is your accusations don't match Russia's capabilities, they could easily do much more, the fact that they don't should be telling.

Putler and a few of his hardliners already declared as Ukranians not being Ukranians and should be purged from the face of the earth. What now? Any counter argument for that?

Also, are you even capable of fielding the planes needed for carpet bombing?

[Specialka]

I know what Russian full-on war against civilians would look like, and this.is.not.it

Russians could carpet bomb kiev, lviv into oblivion if they wanted to.

They don't. So when they say they were after a military target, they are believable based on their scale of operations n what their targets have been.

Now, you can write all the bullshit you want about genocide n what other stupid buzzwords u want, but the elephant in the room is your accusations don't match Russia's capabilities, they could easily do much more, the fact that they don't should be telling.

No, they could not carpet bomb those town, lest they want to lose their planes.

And they are not 'full war on' civilians. They just bomb civilians to put pressure on Kiev, as it is their usual MO.

[Marcellus1986]

Are Ukrainians rotating troops in out of Lysychansk? Severodonetsk? Mariupol?

What part of loosing important strategic towns is it that you don't understand?

Sheesh, the copium is strong in you

And unlike the stupid accusations that we are part of a troll farm, we aren't, then we would constantly post here. And frankly, I am not here to reply to people unwilling to admit loosing Lysychansk n Severodonetsk is a major defeat, pretending the war is going fine. I feel like I'm arguing with children.

You feel that way because you’re incapable of arguing anything other than Kremlin propaganda.

[Ihavewaffles]

You feel that way because you’re incapable of arguing anything other than Kremlin propaganda.

Lysychansk
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/zelens...k-143363141563

Severodonetsk
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ne-lysychansk/

Mariupol
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/10998...-what-it-means

Now, you can start explaining n get off the copium bullshit you are on.

[Fuiking]

Lysychansk
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/zelens...k-143363141563

Severodonetsk
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ne-lysychansk/

Mariupol
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/10998...-what-it-means

Now, you can start explaining n get off the copium bullshit you are on.

Says the russian who's on Copium himself.

[Marcellus1986]

Says the russian who's on Copium himself.

It’s taken the Russians the entirety of the war so far to take one province, and that was because the towns became indefensible due to relentless artillery shelling. Waffles is literally the definition of tankie copium.

[Saradain]

Interesting self-contradiction again, suddenly NOW western news sources are not propaganda...because it suits the agenda/copium this time.

Wiping out a single city from afar (that apparently is a russian city, with russians wiping it out, but somehow still ukrainian troops did it and killed their own people, who are russians but can't be russians because otherwise it wouldn't be ukrainian lives that ukraine ended??) after long-ass siege, calls it a victory of the entire war.

Losing over 35k orcs for having shit morale, troop quality and equipment, all according to the plan, Russia remains stronk.

[RadasNoir]

Now, you can write all the bullshit you want about genocide n what other stupid buzzwords u want, but the elephant in the room is your accusations don't match Russia's capabilities, they could easily do much more, the fact that they don't should be telling.

I really don't think "the Russians could be slaughtering Ukrainian civilians WAY harder, if they wanted to" is the sound argument you seem to think it is.

[Marcellus1986]

Waffles posts like Ulmita on Krokodil.

[Verdugo]

Are you trying to say Ukraine isn't loosing important cities, they are going french, "strategic retreat" loool okay buddy

You did the same shit in WW2 to starve Nazis. Now its being used against you.

[Zaydin]

That doesn't mean Ukraine will be in a position to retake either the South or East. Ukraine has just lost Luhansk, if they lose Donetsk then you can expect wide swaths of the east of the Dnieper to fall under Russia's control.

Great. Then they have to hold it. Meanwhile, Ukraine is getting newer and more advanced artillery systems from the West that outranges Russias aging Soviet era garbage.

[Voidism]

What I find fascinating is that us in the West just give up so easy. We're used to winning 100 % on all gears in all battles all the time that we can't fathom any kind of long term thinking or non-instant-gratification. Don't count out Ukraine yet, and don't believe Russia is ultra super duper powerful. It's all maskirovka and OODA loop shit.

[Makabreska]

What I find fascinating is that us in the West just give up so easy. We're used to winning 100 % on all gears in all battles all the time that we can't fathom any kind of long term thinking or non-instant-gratification. Don't count out Ukraine yet, and don't believe Russia is ultra super duper powerful. It's all maskirovka and OODA loop shit.

I mean, Russia being ultra super duper powerful was debunked in first few days of invasion.

[Marcellus1986]

I mean, Russia being ultra super duper powerful was debunked in first few days of invasion.

Well yeah. Their strategy is just relentless artillery and shelling civilians. Ukraine just doesn’t have the numbers of artillery to counter everything thrown at them.

[Kaleredar]

You did the same shit in WW2 to starve Nazis. Now its being used against you.

I’ve always wondered what happens to the Russian offensive when this drags into winter.

At they going to be beaten by the only tactic that saved their asses from the French and then the Germans?

What I find fascinating is that us in the West just give up so easy. We're used to winning 100 % on all gears in all battles all the time that we can't fathom any kind of long term thinking or non-instant-gratification. Don't count out Ukraine yet, and don't believe Russia is ultra super duper powerful. It's all maskirovka and OODA loop shit.

I don’t think anyone is counting Ukraine out, save for the Russian indoctorates around here.

As far as the west… pending some pro-Russian shill finding a place of power (again, God forbid) I don’t see any reason countries like the US wouldn’t just keep sending aid to Ukraine. It mires Russia down while sanctions rot them from within, and all the US has to do is donate military hardware worth a rounding error of their annual military budget.

Europe is in a tighter spot with their energy dependence, but they’re progressively lessening that, and that’s a market share that progressively dwindles for Russia and won’t return the longer Russia insists on dragging this along.

In essence, the longer Russia does this, the more the rest of the works leaves them behind. NATO has already all but gained two members on Russia’s doorstep, so their little crusade to “scare others away from nato” has already demonstrably failed.

[Crispin]

I really don't think "the Russians could be slaughtering Ukrainian civilians WAY harder, if they wanted to" is the sound argument you seem to think it is.

Reality is that short of a nuclear strike, this is all that Russia is capable of.

No one invades with a “we’ll go easy and drag out the war, so we can lose more soldiers and look like idiots”