1. #21721
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Just a bit of time, his model's been shown already, just as bland as everything Khorne is.
    Just paint it red and splash nuln oil all over it.

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    Images going around:

  3. #21723
    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post

    Population that refuses to work with you, can get kicked out of country by a victor. So if area gets taken over, the russan immigrants will run into the russa.
    I kinda hope Ukraine pulls that forced relocation or people who support russa there will cause damage and terrorist attacks after its taken over.
    Let's not do ethnic cleansing here.

    Just because the RuSSians do it, it doesn't mean the Ukrainians should follow their example. Remember Ukraine is trying to not be RuSSia 2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Let's not do ethnic cleansing here.

    Just because the RuSSians do it, it doesn't mean the Ukrainians should follow their example. Remember Ukraine is trying to not be RuSSia 2.0
    All western countries should give an ultimatum to all dual citizens holding a russian passport tho. Give up the russian one or the one issued by US or an EU country.

  5. #21725
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    All western countries should give an ultimatum to all dual citizens holding a russian passport tho. Give up the russian one or the one issued by US or an EU country.
    A person shall not be arbitrarily deprived of a nationality. Such an ultimatum would, I am pretty sure, be illegal.

  6. #21726
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...ecret-biolabss

    So...we went from, "Ukrainians are basically Russians, that's why it's taking us five months to complete a 3-day operation!"

    to

    "HOLY SHIT MUTANT URKAINIANS ARE KILLING US"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...ecret-biolabss

    So...we went from, "Ukrainians are basically Russians, that's why it's taking us five months to complete a 3-day operation!"

    to

    "HOLY SHIT MUTANT URKAINIANS ARE KILLING US"
    I...I...Ok, this is when we say russia has collectively jumped the shark, right? I mean Mutant Soldiers...what's next? Space Marines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    I...I...Ok, this is when we say russia has collectively jumped the shark, right? I mean Mutant Soldiers...what's next? Space Marines?
    I mean, they jumped the shark long, long ago with their hilarious excuses.

    Last I saw the manchild with the shitty beard in charge of CHECHNYA was talking about being ready to destroy western militaries and like...has homeboy even left CHECHNYA? Last I saw he was staging photo-ops within CHECHNYA but pretending they were taken in Ukraine. Oh, and one of his top lieutenants or something got blown up while bragging about a successful operation on a livestream while walking back.

    Edit because I suck at geography.
    Last edited by Edge-; 2022-07-19 at 07:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I mean, they jumped the shark long, long ago with their hilarious excuses.

    Last I saw the manchild with the shitty beard in charge of Serbia was talking about being ready to destroy western militaries and like...has homeboy even left Serbia? Last I saw he was staging photo-ops within Serbia but pretending they were taken in Ukraine. Oh, and one of his top lieutenants or something got blown up while bragging about a successful operation on a livestream while walking back.
    Their photo ops are always funny, like 99% of the time they are blind firing into nothing, there is never return fire. I have seen one video out of probably 25+ that they were actually in a gun fight.

  10. #21730
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I mean, they jumped the shark long, long ago with their hilarious excuses.

    Last I saw the manchild with the shitty beard in charge of Serbia was talking about being ready to destroy western militaries and like...has homeboy even left Serbia? Last I saw he was staging photo-ops within Serbia but pretending they were taken in Ukraine. Oh, and one of his top lieutenants or something got blown up while bragging about a successful operation on a livestream while walking back.
    Do you mean Kadyrov? Because he's in charge of Chechnya, and Serbia is a separate country from Russia.

    Also, I detest this biolabs conspiracy so much, because it's the one hook that got into my mother, likely due to her working as a cleaning lady in a hospital during the pandemic. Also, because I possess a level of education in relevant fields needed to tell it's bullshit from a scientific point of view.
    Last edited by Vladier; 2022-07-19 at 07:18 PM.

  11. #21731
    Quote Originally Posted by Vladier View Post
    Do you mean Kadyrov? Because he's in charge of Chechnya, and Serbia is a separate country from Russia.
    Damnit, thanks. Not sure how I confused those two outside of the similar "ia/nya" ending. But yeah, Kadyrov, dude with that really shitty beard.

  12. #21732
    Quote Originally Posted by Vladier View Post
    A person shall not be arbitrarily deprived of a nationality. Such an ultimatum would, I am pretty sure, be illegal.
    They are absolutely free to choose to relinquish their Russian passports if they want to live in the west, outside of Russia.
    Last edited by Gabriel; 2022-07-19 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    They are absolutely free to choose to relinquish their Russian passports if they want to live in the west, outside of Russia.
    That would be illegal. While there are countries that can deprive someone of nationality, it is only due to disloyalty, treason, national security or involvement in terrorism, of which everyone should be presumed innocent. A law that would allow to issue such an ultimatum would be necessarily discriminatory, since no one should be required to profess absolute loyalty to a country that allows double citizenship in the first place. If anything, you would be proving those idiots that scream "Russophobia!" at everything absolutely right.

  14. #21734
    Quote Originally Posted by Vladier View Post
    That would be illegal. While there are countries that can deprive someone of nationality, it is only due to disloyalty, treason, national security or involvement in terrorism, of which everyone should be presumed innocent. A law that would allow to issue such an ultimatum would be necessarily discriminatory, since no one should be required to profess absolute loyalty to a country that allows double citizenship in the first place. If anything, you would be proving those idiots that scream "Russophobia!" at everything absolutely right.
    You cannot possibly fathom how little of a shit I give about people crying about Russorealism.

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    Russophobia, lol.

    More like fuck Russia and everything it stands for. And I agree, being a citizen of a hostile, foreign state is a big no-no. Choose your side, or go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    You cannot possibly fathom how little of a shit I give about people crying about Russorealism.
    That was not, however, the main point I was making, merely an aside.
    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    Russophobia, lol.

    More like fuck Russia and everything it stands for. And I agree, being a citizen of a hostile, foreign state is a big no-no. Choose your side, or go home.
    And if they, the people who often leave Russia in the first place due to political disagreements, refuse, what would you propose you do to them? Put them in, let's say, internment camps?

    Citizenship by itself means very little in this regard. It's no signifier of loyalty and allegiance. Which is why to deprive of it in the first place is just petty and cruel, unless the deprived is clearly a threat, and honestly, I personally think even then, as for threats there are correction facilities.
    Last edited by Vladier; 2022-07-19 at 08:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    I...I...Ok, this is when we say russia has collectively jumped the shark, right? I mean Mutant Soldiers...what's next? Space Marines?
    The guard held, the planet broke. I've been comparing the Ukraine soldiers to Cadians.
    But Spess Morons is a step too far.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  18. #21738
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    All western countries should give an ultimatum to all dual citizens holding a russian passport tho. Give up the russian one or the one issued by US or an EU country.
    I disagree with that.

    Holding Russian citizenship isn't synonymous with endorsing Russian policies. Some of the most effective dissidents in countries like Iran, China, Saudi Arabia and such are those who hold dual citizenships in Western countries that status gives them some degree of political protection (and exit route) that local only dissidents lack.

    We have a Russian friend here in Spain, she lives here with her mother (brought her out about 3 years ago), she's ethnic Tatar and no fan of Putin or Russia as is today, but she's nowhere near her settled status, let alone her Spanish citizenship, nor is she eligible for refugee status as she cannot in any meaningful way demonstrate that she is somehow being persecuted in Russia.

    She owns and runs the only Russian restaurant in Madrid, demanding her to renounce her Russian citizenship without being granted a Spanish one would also leave her effectively stateless, and allowing Russians to skip the line for citizenship or settled status wouldn't be politically sellable these days.

    I'm a US/Spanish dual citizen (used be US/British), got my Spanish citizenship a few years ago. My US citizen status is not recognized by the Spanish government, but nevertheless I would be ineligible for a security clearance (or any job that would require one) in either country.
    Last edited by Mihalik; 2022-07-19 at 09:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    The guard held, the planet broke. I've been comparing the Ukraine soldiers to Cadians.
    But Spess Morons is a step too far.
    Myeah, agreed, but the russians are more like the Valhallans. Any case it was more an idea like, in the stories of the russians the Ukrainians are growing until they're these hulking beasts that just won't die, like space marines. (I'd get worried when they start talking about these walking coffins with miniguns.... XD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    Russophobia, lol.

    More like fuck Russia and everything it stands for. And I agree, being a citizen of a hostile, foreign state is a big no-no. Choose your side, or go home.
    I'm not even sure where to begin, but yeah, good thing people like you can't do more than post trash on internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...ecret-biolabss

    So...we went from, "Ukrainians are basically Russians, that's why it's taking us five months to complete a 3-day operation!"

    to

    "HOLY SHIT MUTANT URKAINIANS ARE KILLING US"
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