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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    That's...implausible to say the least. Not even if we accept that Wagner is separate would it be believable.
    Because the argument goes that they're paying wagner to be there? They're still responsible for their mercenaries.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Because the argument goes that they're paying wagner to be there? They're still responsible for their mercenaries.
    Today, we filed the paperwork to have those who fired the shots dismissed from the Russian Military effective 4 days ago.
    Our people didn't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    This has to be some kind of record. Russian signs up and 3 days later is dead in Ukraine. No training, just shipped straight to the front only to catch an artillery round.

    The reason was even dumber.

    He already had a job, so didn't need to go for the money. Just wanted to look like a manly man to try and impress someone who didn't care.


    cucked by artillery

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    20 barrels of honey for 4 drones seems like a realy bad deal.

    If its araund 160 liters of honey per barrel, that is 3200 liters of honey. 1 liter of honey is araund 25 euro so ... 80.000 euro.
    So the guy paid 20.000 euro per drone ....
    One drone to be good for military use costs 1,349.90€. He could get 59 dones for that money.

    Russans are realy bad at economics..
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post

    Russans are realy bad at economics.
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    That, or the seller knows they're desperate.

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    Ok that is interesting:
    https://nitter.net/KyivPost/status/1...012866568200#m

    Lego custum sets (not made officaly by lego) of a real ukraine soldiers.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

  7. #21847
    So, after denying they struck Odessa, Russia now says they did but it was 'military infrastructure.'

    According to them though, schools, hospitals, children's playgrounds, shops and theatres are also military infrastructure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    So, after denying they struck Odessa, Russia now says they did but it was 'military infrastructure.'

    According to them though, schools, hospitals, children's playgrounds, shops and theatres are also military infrastructure.
    You mean military indoctrination centers, buildings full of terrorists being patched up to return to the field, outdoor physical training facilities, black market for weapons stolen from Russia, and propaganda centers?
    /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    You mean military indoctrination centers, buildings full of terrorists being patched up to return to the field, outdoor physical training facilities, black market for weapons stolen from Russia, and propaganda centers?
    /s
    Joking and sarcasm aside, I did recently ran across an article claiming that the russians were using maps from the 60's. I'm not saying they should be excused but if your maps show military facilities that haven't existed for decades then maybe update first before you start shooting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Joking and sarcasm aside, I did recently ran across an article claiming that the russians were using maps from the 60's. I'm not saying they should be excused but if your maps show military facilities that haven't existed for decades then maybe update first before you start shooting?
    Russian incompetence would be hilarious if it didn't result in so much civilian cadalties.

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    Can someone translate this a bit better than Google?

    https://ria.ru/20220721/putin-1803989988.html

    According to the Finnish newspaper I read it says putin has some health issues and peskov is downplaying it.

    I'm just curious what's said. The Finnish news says flu-like symptoms, coughing and loss of voice.

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    Sounds like covid, if true.

    And Lavrov is now saying regime change is Russia's goal after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Sounds like covid, if true.
    if true that might not end well.

    And Lavrov is now saying regime change is Russia's goal after all.
    Surprise Pikachu face, although Lavrov has said some things lately that were not entirely inline with the partyline.

    I don't think they are capable of achieving that anymore though.
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-07-24 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    if true that might not end well.

    I'm sure Putin has access to enough highfalutin medicine to keep him sputtering on. If a fat orange pumpkin man like Trump can survive Covid, I'm sure Putin can slog through it as well.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I'm sure Putin has access to enough highfalutin medicine to keep him sputtering on. If a fat orange pumpkin man like Trump can survive Covid, I'm sure Putin can slog through it as well.
    While true, Orange man was "only" severely out of shape, if putin has other things going on, as is rumoured, it might be bad, add to that the rumour that he doesn't exactly trust his physicians and it has the potential of catastrophic failure.

    Look I'm not pinning any hopes on it but the fact that they even acknowledge this does make me wonder.

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    Trump was unvaccinated as well I believe. Putin probably is, but I'd say he likely has had a western vaccine rather than the Russian made one he forced on his people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Trump was unvaccinated as well I believe. Putin probably is, but I'd say he likely has had a western vaccine rather than the Russian made one he forced on his people.
    Trump was vaccinated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    if true that might not end well.



    Surprise Pikachu face, although Lavrov has said some things lately that were not entirely inline with the partyline.

    I don't think they are capable of achieving that anymore though.
    Lavrov has a history of wanting out. Basically since the mid 2010s, yet like with the person in charge of Russia's central bank Putin has kept denying the request. It could be he's going over the top to get someone to fire him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Trump was unvaccinated as well I believe. Putin probably is, but I'd say he likely has had a western vaccine rather than the Russian made one he forced on his people.
    You think so? I kinda doubt it, I mean the guy is so paranoid I don't think he'd take anything he didn't control the whole process from a to z of. (In this case the whole process from manufacturing to administering the vaccine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Lavrov has a history of wanting out. Basically since the mid 2010s, yet like with the person in charge of Russia's central bank Putin has kept denying the request. It could be he's going over the top to get someone to fire him.
    The thing with Lavrov is that, as far as I could find out, he was a fairly respected and competent diplomat previously, a bit old school soviet, but competent nevertheless. Lately he does seem to try to get out as you say, and his trustworthiness seems to have gone MIA.
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-07-25 at 03:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Lavrov has a history of wanting out. Basically since the mid 2010s, yet like with the person in charge of Russia's central bank Putin has kept denying the request. It could be he's going over the top to get someone to fire him.
    If that's the case he'd best watch his behind to make sure that "fired" doesn't turn into "forced into early retirement out of a sixth story window"
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