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    Quote Originally Posted by P for Pancetta View Post
    Nu.nl is pretty good at being biased (lot of trolls/propagandists in the comments too due to bad moderation). I don't think it's purposeful though they're not a real news agency, their team is very small. As a result a lot of their "news" is straight up Chinese/Russian propaganda, they do add a "according to x" at the start of those articles but they don't explore what was said, or highlight and address the obvious lies. Or maybe they do have bad intentions who knows (they're thought to be owned by a Belgian billionaires family, who've been in media for a long time. (the site and the company that owns the site are run by that family, but that company is owned by another one who's ownership is not public knowledge.
    You forgot the cesspool of extreme right: PowNews and Geenstijl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P for Pancetta View Post
    Nu.nl is pretty good at being biased (lot of trolls/propagandists in the comments too due to bad moderation). I don't think it's purposeful though they're not a real news agency, their team is very small. As a result a lot of their "news" is straight up Chinese/Russian propaganda, they do add a "according to x" at the start of those articles but they don't explore what was said, or highlight and address the obvious lies. Or maybe they do have bad intentions who knows (they're thought to be owned by a Belgian billionaires family, who've been in media for a long time. (the site and the company that owns the site are run by that family, but that company is owned by another one who's ownership is not public knowledge.
    Bit of a difficult one, Sanoma is a Finnish word meaning news, and, as far as I know it is a Finnish company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Bit of a difficult one, Sanoma is a Finnish word meaning news, and, as far as I know it is a Finnish company.
    they sold nu.nl to DPG media a few years ago(including Donald duck and Libelle). They also own the Volkskrant etc, so I think it's like I initially said, they don't intentionally spread shitty news, they post news asap to get clicks without checking it properly or doing anything that could be considered journalistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    You forgot the cesspool of extreme right: PowNews and Geenstijl.
    I don't take those things serious, they're clearly alt-right sites, often spreading dishonest propaganda.
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    Russian missiles strike Kyiv for first time in three weeks
    Residential buildings and a kindergarten hit in centre of Ukrainian capital
    Where did that "good guys" guy go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Which one?
    "You can't know what's goin on for realz, froggy whore, er, fog of war, but only I can tell you what's real."
    "No comrade, ees simple. Must stop keedz from become nazi adults. Is for common good, no?"
    *Furiously masturbating imaging they were nukes*
    Those are the 3 main ones I'm aware of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Which one?
    "You can't know what's goin on for realz, froggy whore, er, fog of war, but only I can tell you what's real."
    "No comrade, ees simple. Must stop keedz from become nazi adults. Is for common good, no?"
    *Furiously masturbating imaging they were nukes*
    Those are the 3 main ones I'm aware of.
    This hilarious one-and-done poster.
    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    Hey guys, not tired of the western propaganda yet? Having fun here online while good guys do what they have to do step by step?
    And hey, the one of those that likes to hide at least showed up again recently. Though maybe should have stayed hidden instead of posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    How is your three day war?
    Huh, this bullshit was forced by YOUR media. That was histerical estimation of western warmongers, who believed we'd be all like YOU: carpet bomb everything from safe distance and say we won, not even counting the dead.
    We're liberating OUR people, who are either kept hostages or brainwashed by years of YOUR media job.
    This people will live there and not in our interest to destroy more than necessary here.
    I bet your logic still can explain this the other way right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    Huh, this bullshit was forced by YOUR media. That was histerical estimation of western warmongers, who believed we'd be all like YOU: carpet bomb everything from safe distance and say we won, not even counting the dead.
    We're liberating OUR people, who are either kept hostages or brainwashed by years of YOUR media job.
    This people will live there and not in our interest to destroy more than necessary here.
    I bet your logic still can explain this the other way right?
    Ukranians aren't your people you fascist pig. You are slaughtering them on mass. Look at the strike on the apartment building in kyiv today. Your brave soldiers killed a 7 year old girl. Disgusting. All Russian invaders in Ukraine need to be killed. It is like killing members of ISIS, the sooner and more of them the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    Hint: One of the parties involved locks up journalists, and it's not "the west".
    I bet you cannot give more than 10 examples of what would even look like "Russia locked up a journalist".
    There were prolly like 5 cases 20 years ago when criminal oligarchs had more power and could play such games.
    At the other hand - your media CANCELS anyone who'd actually try to see the real processes going on.
    This is just as effective as physically removing them tbh.

    And - there're hundreds of our journalists in the middle of the conflict, showing countless videos, pictures and even live streams DAYLY.
    You would be able to choose to believe them or not, but your media made the choice FOR YOU: you're cut off from all our resources, and you're shamed for even trying to look at them and share.
    While there's zero(or close to zero) western journalists from 'respectable' media in the conflict zone. They're in hundreds of kilometers away from conflict, sitting in yet-safe cities of western UA or even (who cares?) across the seas - and provide you their POV like they're credible. Lol they['ve not even been to there. All they know is what they've been told by your officials. Goooood journalist job, needless to say.

    And it must be very entertaining for you to watch it, while they still can hide the actual outcome of the happening events.
    That's why i'm asking how you enjoy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghotihook View Post
    I do love how Russian "media" is correct and literally the rest of the world is wrong.
    What a wacked out way to think.
    I'll repeat part of my answer:
    There're hundreds of our journalists in the middle of the conflict, showing countless videos, pictures and even live streams DAYLY.
    You would be able to choose to believe them or not, but your media made the choice FOR YOU: you're cut off from all our resources, and you're shamed for even trying to look at them and share.
    While there's zero(or close to zero) western journalists from 'respectable' media in the conflict zone. They're in hundreds of kilometers away from conflict, sitting in yet-safe cities of western UA or even (who cares?) across the seas - and provide you their POV like they're credible. Lol they['ve not even been to there. All they know is what they've been told by your officials. Goooood journalist job, needless to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    Huh, this bullshit was forced by YOUR media. That was histerical estimation of western warmongers, who believed we'd be all like YOU: carpet bomb everything from safe distance and say we won, not even counting the dead.
    We're liberating OUR people, who are either kept hostages or brainwashed by years of YOUR media job.
    This people will live there and not in our interest to destroy more than necessary here.
    I bet your logic still can explain this the other way right?
    Those are some powerful words from a guy who dressed up a USSR children story mascot as a soldier and made it his avatar. Think it might be missing a stolen toilet to complete the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    We're liberating OUR people, who are either kept hostages or brainwashed by years of YOUR media job.
    I honestly cannot take an apparently Russian person saying this seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    The good guy ukrainians and western supporters are indeed doing the best - wiping out the orcs easy peasy while your country shits its pants and you have to put basic groceries under the lock so desperate people do not steal them under your stronk economy.

    80% russian homes have running water, that is good comrade yes-yes!

    Be aware of your nearest windows, somehow everyone criticizing your stronk goverment ends up falling down from them - the true sign of a free country!

    Russian propaganda can't be propaganda since it is so corrupt and Kremlin controlled that no opposing claims exist (for very long at least!), amirite?

    Of course, if you refer to the orcs being good guys, do elaborate how genocide, rape and theft (literal child kidnapping) against women and children are a-okay. I'd be THRILLED to hear this one!
    Exactly what I hoped to hear, you enjoy the bullshit they force in your ears!
    Have fun realizing we've cleared the eastern and coastal UA before winter(+-2 month I believe) and the rest soon after (if they don't choose to give up their hostile plans and decide to make an actual peace treaty).
    I love that there's people like you, when their dreams break - it's so sweet o see.
    Will you even blame your propaganda when it happens? Guess we'll never know.
    Good propaganda will feed you new ideas to distract from their previous lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Russia isn't the good guys, fucking dictator bootlicker.
    Please be the one to finally explain to me:
    - who?
    - dictates what?
    - to whom?

    I don't feel I'm under any sort of pressure here. May be I am the one dictating? I need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    Exactly what I hoped to hear, you enjoy the bullshit they force in your ears! Have fun realizing we've cleared the eastern and coastal UA before winter(+-2 month I believe) and the rest soon after (if they don't choose to give up their hostile plans and decide to make an actual peace treaty). I love that there's people like you, when their dreams break - it's so sweet o see. Will you even blame your propaganda when it happens? Guess we'll never know. Good propaganda will feed you new ideas to distract from their previous lies.
    How's that 3 day war going?
    O..wait, it's ongoing for 4 months now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    Huh, this bullshit was forced by YOUR media. That was histerical estimation of western warmongers, who believed we'd be all like YOU: carpet bomb everything from safe distance and say we won, not even counting the dead.
    We're liberating OUR people, who are either kept hostages or brainwashed by years of YOUR media job.
    This people will live there and not in our interest to destroy more than necessary here.
    I bet your logic still can explain this the other way right?
    Ok, let me rephrase that. How is your war, in which you attacked a sovereign country under a phony, WW2-rehashed excuse, barely managed to get close to Kiev, after which you had to move into a constant retreat and now had to settle on only taking separatist republics, shattered "mighty Russian army" myth, all while watching impotently as west united against you in military and other support for Ukraine, fucking up your economy, and while watching Finland and Sweden moving into joining NATO, effectively doubling Russia-NATO border length, while one of the reasons for this war was to push the alliance away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    Good propaganda will feed you new ideas to distract from their previous lies.
    Well, if anyone was going to know "good propaganda"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Ok, let me rephrase that. How is your war, in which you attacked a sovereign country under a phony, WW2-rehashed excuse, barely managed to get close to Kiev,after which you had to move into a constant retreat and now had to settle on only taking separatist republics, shattered "might Russian army" myth", all while watching impotently as west united against you in military and other support for Ukraine, and while watching Finland and Sweden joining NATO, effectively doubling Russia-NATO border length, while one of the reasons for this war was to push the alliance away?
    I'm 100% sure the NATO angle was just an excuse. Just like the Ukrainian Nazis were. Do they even talk about those anymore? Putin already went to comparing himself to Peter The Great, someone who will bring the lands back that rightfully belong to Russia. That's what this is about, and nothing else.
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    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    Raping, torturing and murdering women and children is good in your world view?

    Thanks for confirming that RuZZia is well past any reasons to exist any longer.
    That's exactly what western propaganda is. Our soldiers are saving our people whom they will live next to ever after.
    You don't want to rape your new neighbor the first day you meet him I believe? Otherwise how will you feel sleeping at night?

    Besides they're on duty. The image of our modern troops is almost at all time's high (right after the red army of 1945s). Anyone on our side who'd do anything like this would be immediately put to prison for decades.

    That's what western armies do all the time, not ours.
    One fact (still unchecked by me, because it turned out to be not so easy with the old foreign press, but I hope to get some original western sources one day) is:

    Time Journal ( 17 september 1945):
    Government sent to soldiers about 50 million condoms monthly with illustrations on how to use it.

    This basically invites them to punish the German nation. And later make the occupied germans and the rest to blame USSR.

    Meanwhile Soviet union was caring about our image of liberators, this would be unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathTaker View Post
    Huh, this bullshit was forced by YOUR media. That was histerical estimation of western warmongers, who believed we'd be all like YOU: carpet bomb everything from safe distance and say we won, not even counting the dead.
    We're liberating OUR people, who are either kept hostages or brainwashed by years of YOUR media job.
    This people will live there and not in our interest to destroy more than necessary here.
    I bet your logic still can explain this the other way right?
    What is it with Russians and not knowing where their borders end? The country your army is invading is called Ukraine, not Russia. That's why it's called an invasion, you don't belong there. They aren't your people. It's not even the people you guys are after, it's the land. If it was the people you guys wanted to protect the only thing you'd be doing is letting them into your country, not invading theirs.

    And it isn't the media that has made us all think this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    This hilarious one-and-done poster.


    And hey, the one of those that likes to hide at least showed up again recently. Though maybe should have stayed hidden instead of posting.
    Thanks for your advice, I can decide what to do by myself. Not like you, because if you do or say what's not allowed - you're cancelled. Modern culture, you know. I feel for you. No worries Russia will show the world the cancel culture is cancer for any society, and you'll get cured of it on your own someday.

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