1. #22061
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    This is the part that's almost certainly completely fabricated horseshit, you know. She's literally a political prisoner, being held hostage by their government to extract concessions from our own.
    Is hash oil illegal in Russia? Yes it is. She took illegal stuff into the country by her own admission. Now there's no doubt that she was immediately used as a political pawn but she admits breaking the law herself.

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    Yep she broke the law. If this was a law unique to Russia it would be curious but that shit's illegal in a lot of countries.
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    sorry about late reply; I drink heavily in the mornings.

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    Well, for what it's worth, I don't think anyone should take any confession from anyone in Russian custody at face value.

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    when you look at logistics, I think it's sad to admit Russia has won not just only in Ukraine, but in all their global political agendas. And I'm not even a shill, evidently, but I've just pieced together the facts of what's going on. There's way more to this crisis than just cheering for Ukraine slaughtering cannon fodder infantry in the daily news.

    Russia's, not just Putin's, goal, is to shift the world order into an authoritarian dystopia. And the scope of their influence has infected every democracy on the planet. Ukraine is just the stepping stone to the bigger picture that involves more nations than just Russia (India, Hungary, etc).
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  5. #22065
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    when you look at logistics, I think it's sad to admit Russia has won not just only in Ukraine, but in all their global political agendas.
    NATO is laughing at you.

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    Ow God, it's back again...
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    sorry about late reply; I drink heavily in the mornings.

  7. #22067
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    NATO is laughing at you.
    As it is now, Russia is doubling down on the MAD logic, something Moldova has lately admitted to being very fearful of (them being next for an invasion with that logic in mind).

    Not helped by the fact they keep threatening America to stop sending Ukraine weapons, and America is only doubling down by sending them more and more advanced weaponry in response.

    Also, they're emboldened not just by that fact, but the fact EU has caved into Russia actually going through with their threats to cut gas.

    I think people should understand what winning means to Russia. If they don't win but their enemies go down with them, they consider it a victory. That's been the essence of their culture since their inception.
    Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-07-28 at 04:19 PM.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    As it is now, Russia is doubling down on the MAD logic, something Moldova has lately admitted to being very fearful of (them being next for an invasion with that logic in mind).

    Not helped by the fact they keep threatening America to stop sending Ukraine weapons, and America is only doubling down by sending them more and more advanced weaponry in response.

    Also, they're emboldened not just by that fact, but the fact EU has caved into Russia actually going through with their threats to cut gas.

    I think people should understand what winning means to Russia. If they don't win but their enemies go down with them, they consider it a victory. That's been the essence of their culture since their inception.
    Have you ever considered taking a hint that you are not welcome here?

  9. #22069
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    ...snip
    Repeating yourself...since Russia's 3 day win hasn't happened.

  10. #22070
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    since Russia's 3 day win hasn't happened.
    no, but it's a brutal and uncertain war with more on the horizon to it than just Ukraine vs Russia. I resent the fact the media only makes it appear as though Ukraine is curb stomping Russia and it's only a matter of time before Russia inevitably loses. Optimism is nice, but that's just misleading.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

  11. #22071
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I resent the fact the media only makes it appear as though Ukraine is curb stomping Russia
    So you've not been following along with the majority of the press coverage of the war then, which is unsurprising.

  12. #22072
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Repeating yourself...since Russia's 3 day win hasn't happened.
    But...but I hear stronk ruzzia if wanted they take Kyiv in 3 days. trust me bro they haven't sent their stronk army yet.

    on a serious note tho I don't see Yuppie ever learning anything. He will keep saying Ruzzia has nukez and so on.

  13. #22073
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    no, but it's a brutal and uncertain war with more on the horizon to it than just Ukraine vs Russia. I resent the fact the media only makes it appear as though Ukraine is curb stomping Russia and it's only a matter of time before Russia inevitably loses. Optimism is nice, but that's just misleading.
    Nope, this isn't happening. You Trump supporters always want to blame the media for the lies you spread.

  14. #22074
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    So you've not been following along with the majority of the press coverage of the war then, which is unsurprising.
    the press coverage is Russians are being decimated like swarms of bugs and not human beings every day, every hour. Who knows what the real casualty rate is, but it's unanimously agreed to be 50k+ right now according to US and Ukraine intel.

    But Zelenksy himself has admitted until the recent American armaments stepping up their game, Ukraine casualties were 200+ a day. Now it's 30ish according to this word. That's not too optimistic though, just throwing out 30-estimate people dying a day like it's not a huge deal.
    Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    the press coverage is Russians are being decimated like swarms of bugs and not human beings every day, every hour. Who knows what the real casualty rate is, but it's unanimously agreed to be 50k+ right now according to US and Ukraine intel.

    But Zelenksy himself has admitted until the recent American armaments stepping up their game, Ukraine casualties were 200+ a day. Now it's 30ish according to this word. That's not too optimistic though, just throwing out 30-estimate people dying a day like it's not a huge deal.
    Maybe this will get you to think twice about supporting fascists and authoritarians who want to start wars and kill innocent people.
    Last edited by Machismo; 2022-07-28 at 09:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Maybe thise will get ypu to think twice about supporting fascists and authoritarians who want to start wars and kill innocent people.
    Yep. The GQP loves to act like a strong man, threatens wars, etc. But it's always amusing how they react when faced with the reality of war and they act as if all the violence and death is horrifying. I wonder what people expect from war? Their force to roll up and the enemy to unconditionally surrender?
    Plenty of people have been holding their breath waiting for me to fail. I think they all suffocated years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    Just came here to remind people that the right has no moral conscious. If they ever try to morally scold you, it's not because they think what you're doing is wrong. Is because it's effective, and want to discourage you from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Yep. The GQP loves to act like a strong man, threatens wars, etc. But it's always amusing how they react when faced with the reality of war and they act as if all the violence and death is horrifying. I wonder what people expect from war? Their force to roll up and the enemy to unconditionally surrender?
    Well, that was the plan originally. 3 day weekend and you're home in time for Monday's episode of "Hey Giorgy!"
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  18. #22078
    Reportedly multiple Russian outlets are saying representatives from Putin's United Russia party have left Kherson, saying they are no longer able to provide 'humanitarian aid.'

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WhereisRu...60018754895872

    Otherwise known as rats fleeing a sinking ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Reportedly multiple Russian outlets are saying representatives from Putin's United Russia party have left Kherson, saying they are no longer able to provide 'humanitarian aid.'

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WhereisRu...60018754895872

    Otherwise known as rats fleeing a sinking ship.
    If I were a russian soldier there I'd probably start giving SERIOUS thought about surrender. Especially since representatives of that same party previously boasted about russia being there to stay. I also wonder how this will play out at home, as these representatives probably have a little bit of a different perspective, they will talk to friends and family.

    I assume this can't be correct:

    75000

    Couldn't find anything else about it except a Finnish online newspaper.
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  20. #22080
    5 House members (both Democrats and Republicans) will imminently introduce legislation to officially designate Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism. This is leading to a showdown with Sec of State Blinken who says only he can apply the label, but if it passes both chambers then it will put pressure on Biden to sign it into law.

    Early on, the Senate passed a non-binding resolution calling for Blinken to make the designation, though this bill goes further, and comes after Pelosi warned Blinken if he didn't do so then Congress would.

    If Russia is designated a terrorist state then it would allow for secondary sanctions to be levelled against entities that do business with Russia. Like China.

    Can't come soon enough. Russia is engaging in ISIS level of atrocities. Haven't seen it myself and really don't want to see it, but new video has come out in the last day of some pretty horrific stuff, of heads and hands of dead Ukrainians mounted on fences by Russian soldiers and the castration of a Ukrainian POW while he was bound and still alive with box cutters.
    Last edited by Corvus; 2022-07-29 at 03:32 AM.

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