I understand this might be a bit difficult of a concept to grasp for anyone in a country where you can get thrown out of a window for making too much noise, but in legitimate democracies people don't have this big of a problem with criticising bad things their governments have done.
Saddam had no WMDs and it were wrong for the US to invade Iraq, but that does not change Russian involvement in MH17.
Saddam's problem was he had lied so often when he did have the WMDs that when he started to tell the truth about destroying them noone believed him.
And people were saying that NS2 would never be part of any sanctions....
Putler seems to have underestimated the resolve of Europe in the face of his fascism.
He said to himself, desperately hoping that repeating it enough times will convince the German government not to do anything that might increase his energy bill because that is apparently what's important in a discussion of Ukraine being invaded.
I see we've gone from "NS2 will never be part of a sanctions package" to "well it might for now but it won't last." Waiting for "well it might have lasted but it really didn't matter."
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
With the EU it's about stability, and Russia is upsetting it.
Sure, Jan.
Something something straw breaking the camel's back something something Putain's little Nuremberg redux making it abundantly clear that this isn't going to stop with 'separatist regions of Ukraine' unless doing so represents a significant political and economic liability.Also, don't you think that if they wanted to stop it they'd have done it when Russia annexed the Krim? What do you think is different this time?
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
I know, and it isn't surprising we have people I have NEVER seen before in this forum, suddenly simping for Russia, and not surprising, that all of the known Russian propagandists are in this channel outright fully defending Putin and Russia's invasion here, and not blaming it on Russia, but anyone else but Putin. Seems the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg is paying for overtime.
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Not surprising you are defending Russian terrorist attacks, and Putins invasion of Ukraine.
Don't forget the GOP and their propaganda arm in Fox are still churning out pro-Putain bullshit as a function of having caught the Trump brainworms. See: Them taking more issue with "Biden being weak" than with Putain actually invading Ukraine, and immediately switching to "Biden's a warmonger" at the mention of sanctions.
Like, I'm just gonna say it: the Republican Party may as well be a Russian fifth column at this point. Which is so fucking ironic for the party of McCarthy.
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Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi