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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, apparently he wanted to retire ages ago, but Putler does not let him. Maybe he is low key trying to undermine the war effort so he could go on a vaycay. Would be hilarious.
    hes got alot of property in europe. (and alot via his family too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, apparently he wanted to retire ages ago, but Putler does not let him. Maybe he is low key trying to undermine the war effort so he could go on a vaycay. Would be hilarious.
    He might get a permanent vacation to all places nowhere if he's not careful, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Gotta ask how he supposes to get the required gear over there... 2000 soldiers isn't really going to cut it without support.
    Nothing is going to happen in Moldova in the near future. Ukraine has indicated publicly they're ready to help Moldova with their transnistria issue if Russia tries anything, and there's no reason to doubt their commitment to that as it would also remove a thorn in their own side in the ongoing war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, apparently he wanted to retire ages ago, but Putler does not let him. Maybe he is low key trying to undermine the war effort so he could go on a vaycay. Would be hilarious.
    2016 I think was his first retirement attempt. Since then he's basically become more and more ostracised from Putin. He's not a decision maker or in the inner circle (he wasn't even informed of the invasion until the first missiles flew.)

    He's basically nothing more than the Iraqi that was talking about huge victories for Iraq as American M1s were rolling into central Baghdad.

    Wouldn't be surprised if he just knows too much, but also too well connected to people outside of Russia to be offed or fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    2016 I think was his first retirement attempt. Since then he's basically become more and more ostracised from Putin. He's not a decision maker or in the inner circle (he wasn't even informed of the invasion until the first missiles flew.)

    He's basically nothing more than the Iraqi that was talking about huge victories for Iraq as American M1s were rolling into central Baghdad.

    Wouldn't be surprised if he just knows too much, but also too well connected to people outside of Russia to be offed or fired.
    He is a vastly experienced and skilled diplomat who knows how to handle people and negotiate. He may not create international politics, but all these things are still very valuable and may be the reason he is still kept around. And I wouldn't go wild with "he knows too much". This is all a very loyal and tight knit group who knows the price of betrayal. Plus, what reason would he have it to risk this much? He is Team Putler since the beginning and a benefactor of Kremlin system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    the old line of 'at least putin saved us from the 90's' isnt going to cut it when the gangland shit comes back in force. The carbombing the other day and all of these fallings out windows :

    The head of the board of directors of Lukoil, Ravil Maganov, died after falling out of a hospital window.
    Russia really needs to invest in sturdier windows. I feel like this same accident keeps happening and it's an incredible coincidence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Russia really needs to invest in sturdier windows. I feel like this same accident keeps happening and it's an incredible coincidence!
    It's this draft man, they keep opening too many windows!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    It's this draft man, they keep opening too many windows!
    They say it's the Russian winter you need to worry about, but summer is dangerous too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    The head of the board of directors of Lukoil, Ravil Maganov, died after falling out of a hospital window.
    American source that cites a Russian source.

    Ravil Maganov,, chairman of the board of directors for the Russian oil and gas giant Lukoil, died Thursday after falling out of a window at a hospital in Moscow, Russian news agency Interfax reports, citing an anonymous source.

    Maganov is the latest in a series of Russian oligarchs, many of whom were involved in Russia's energy sector, who have died under unexplained circumstances.

    Before Maganov's death on Thursday, at least seven Russian oligarchs have met sudden unexplained — and sometimes violent — deaths this year, though suicide is officially suspected in the incidents, according to Deutsche Welle.

    Two sources confirmed to Reuters Thursday that Maganov, 67, died after falling from a window at Moscow's Central Clinical Hospital.

    Two people familiar with Maganov also told Reuters they believed it was highly unlikely he had committed suicide.

    Lukoil, Russia's second biggest oil and gas company, said in a statement Thursday that Maganov "passed away following a severe illness."
    It was at this point that I took a look around for what that illness could be, suspecting the answer is "allergic to concrete". Big surprise, I found nothing on any English-speaking site. Even time-stamping the search didn't find anything referring to his illness but poorly-dated sites with this very article.

    I know we have some Russians on this site, perhaps they can find a documentation of this supposed severe illness from before this "accident"? Until something backs this claim, I will diagnose the illness as "acute pushouta windowson"

    "Ravil Maganov immensely contributed to the development of not only the Company, but of the entire Russian oil and gas sector," it added.

    Lukoil's board of directors seemingly broke ranks with the Kremlin in March by calling for "the soonest termination" of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, CNN reports.

    "We express our sincere empathy for all victims, who are, wait, what are you doing, no NO, AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa......," the board said just days after the start of the invasion.

    The Department of Justice announced Wednesday that the U.S. obtained a warrant to to seize a corporate aircraft owned by Lukoil.
    I will admit, it's technically possible he loved his plane so much he'd rather die than live without it. I find that pretty low on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Russia really needs to invest in sturdier windows. I feel like this same accident keeps happening and it's an incredible coincidence!
    "Man accidentally cracks his skull open against a bulletproof window" just doesn't have the same vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okacz View Post
    "Man accidentally cracks his skull open against a bulletproof window" just doesn't have the same vibe.
    They do love their hospital suicides but they've got options. Just do a drive-by within spitting distance of the Kremlin or something. It's hardly as if Russia doesn't have multiple options for people to "conveniently" kill themselves/be the victim of a random act of violence. It's just a coincidence the victims are almost all critics of the current regime. Could happen in any country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    They do love their hospital suicides but they've got options. Just do a drive-by within spitting distance of the Kremlin or something. It's hardly as if Russia doesn't have multiple options for people to "conveniently" kill themselves/be the victim of a random act of violence. It's just a coincidence the victims are almost all critics of the current regime. Could happen in any country.
    or have them trip on a knife, 50 times.

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    I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Honestly not wanting to live in a shit hole while you watch your fortune evaporate is a pretty good reason to commit suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Honestly not wanting to live in a shit hole while you watch your fortune evaporate is a pretty good reason to commit suicide.
    benefit of the doubt does not work when it's Russia we're talking about

    we must always assume the worst until proven otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Honestly not wanting to live in a shit hole while you watch your fortune evaporate is a pretty good reason to commit suicide.
    Yup, it's totally believable one just happens to slip on banana peels and fall out of hospital windows. And, of course having criticized the "speshul operation" has no relation to the case. None. He was just depressed about having less billions, rather than more billions.

    I'd kill myself too!
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    Yup, it's totally believable one just happens to slip on banana peels and fall out of hospital windows. And, of course having criticized the "speshul operation" has no relation to the case. None. He was just depressed about having less billions, rather than more billions.

    I'd kill myself too!
    You know the one thing that does bug me here is that IF he did jump by his own choice because of depression, then we're making light of an illness.

    I don't think he did, but depression can be a real bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    You know the one thing that does bug me here is that IF he did jump by his own choice because of depression, then we're making light of an illness.

    I don't think he did, but depression can be a real bitch.
    And meteor strike could kill us all tomorrow. I still won't rob the bank today and live like a Queen for a day
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigramx View Post
    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    Haha, that's a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kante View Post
    Haha, that's a good one.
    The cops likely thought it was a protest by the Taxi drivers.

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