Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Gaidax]

I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Honestly not wanting to live in a shit hole while you watch your fortune evaporate is a pretty good reason to commit suicide.

Bruh, whatever happens - you can be sure that oligarchs and elites there won't be thinking how they are going to put that black caviar on a bread tomorrow.

Their assets are safe and secure overseas in dozens of offshore entities that nobody even knows belong to them in reality. Same goes for their living standards - don't you worry, if they'd need to import yet another brand new supercar - they can, the sanctions for them are mostly an inconvenience and the struggles of rank and file Russian citizens as result of this shit are very far from their backyard.

Now sure, you can have some dumber ones getting offguard, the noveau riche types that did not have enough time to grow some fat. But you can bet it won't be a head of board of fucking Lukoil.

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The only thng that will actually bump them is either talking too much (as in this case), nuclear war or another bolshevik revolution.

[enigma77]

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status...00349637033985

This is just comical.

It's amazing how stupid those people think others are.

[Poopymonster]

It's amazing how stupid those people think others are.

Now, you will be making report on what I said as truth. Windows known to be very dangerous, eh comrade?

[Kallisto]

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status...00349637033985

This is just comical.

Maybe he was describing one of those return to sender missiles that the russians fire and ends up hitting themselves with

[zealo]

Now, you will be making report on what I said as truth. Windows known to be very dangerous, eh comrade?

All jokes aside, IAEA inspectors likely don't have much to fear in that regard, but that doesn't make it a good idea to just not play along for the moment when at the site, after all, even having access to begin with is something happening at the "grace" of Russia allowing IAEA in to inspect ZNPP.

[Kallisto]

I doubt the IAEA will overtly show blame to either side as a means to keep in the good graces of Ukraine and Russia. A between-the-lines reading might indicate that they do not believe in Russia. But there's likely not going to be a "This place is in danger and Russia is the blame." kind of report.

It will almost certainly have a "The power station needs to be demilitarized and both sides need to make sure not to attack the area." in it. Where anyone who has more than 2 minutes of knowledge of the war knows they mean Russia, but being diplomatic as to keep access to it.

[fwc577]

They do love their hospital suicides but they've got options. Just do a drive-by within spitting distance of the Kremlin or something. It's hardly as if Russia doesn't have multiple options for people to "conveniently" kill themselves/be the victim of a random act of violence. It's just a coincidence the victims are almost all critics of the current regime. Could happen in any country.

Guns are hard to come by in Russia because the Ukraine has been taking possession of all Russian Weaponry en masse over the past few months.

[Pann]

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[Poopymonster]

Putin has spoked. You have 2 weeks to get more shit for him.

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-pu...e-land-1739154

[Twdft]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

To be honest I think it's a good thing. Frees our governments from having to do shady back alley deals with ruSSia to keep the spice flowing. Also once we have established alternatives to zero ruSSian energy it's much easier to stay at zero.

My landlord sent me a letter to consider paying €50 more per month utilities or if I don't want to give them money already to at least put some on the side and not be surprised about the bill later. Yeah well, I'll have no problem paying my bills. I hope my government makes sure everyone else can pay theirs too.

[Fuiking]

To be honest I think it's a good thing. Frees our governments from having to do shady back alley deals with ruSSia to keep the spice flowing. Also once we have established alternatives to zero ruSSian energy it's much easier to stay at zero.

My landlord sent me a letter to consider paying €50 more per month utilities or if I don't want to give them money already to at least put some on the side and not be surprised about the bill later. Yeah well, I'll have no problem paying my bills. I hope my government makes sure everyone else can pay theirs too.

only 50 euros? I was told to save 250 euros a month extra.. which i dont own.

[Saradain]

Meanwhile as counter to rising electricity costs, Finland is introducing a VAT discount for electricity while adding a form of welfare specifically targetting people who may have hard times paying for electricity. Which is not really a big issue. What comes to heating, Finland pretty much imports 100% of its gas from Russia, but less than 10% of the finnish households actually rely on gas for heating.

Russian fantasy of bringing Europe to it's knees the coming winter is a result of their fucked up world view - most of them living in piss poor conditions, without basic necessities like indoor plumbing (lacking that in 20% of the russian households), without the ability to fathom the plentiness most europeans live in (hence why they steal home appliances etc en masse like they would be products of luxury) - so they believe that gas/electricity price would somehow make Europe scream in terror in practical everyday life during the winter, with people freezing to death.

Amusing, really, when seeing russian shitposters spreading this freezing winter panic myth on various places. Poor things.

[Nymrohd]

Meanwhile as counter to rising electricity costs, Finland is introducing a VAT discount for electricity while adding a form of welfare specifically targetting people who may have hard times paying for electricity. Which is not really a big issue. What comes to heating, Finland pretty much imports 100% of its gas from Russia, but less than 10% of the finnish households actually rely on gas for heating.

Russian fantasy of bringing Europe to it's knees the coming winter is a result of their fucked up world view - most of them living in piss poor conditions, without basic necessities like indoor plumbing (lacking that in 20% of the russian households), without the ability to fathom the plentiness most europeans live in (hence why they steal home appliances etc en masse like they would be products of luxury) - so they believe that gas/electricity price would somehow make Europe scream in terror in practical everyday life during the winter, with people freezing to death.

Amusing, really, when seeing russian shitposters spreading this freezing winter panic myth on various places. Poor things.

I don't think that's a complete fantasy for eastern europe. Not all of Europe has the disposable income of Finland. In countries were people live salary to salary, the extra expense bites.

[Saradain]

I don't think that's a complete fantasy for eastern europe. Not all of Europe has the disposable income of Finland. In countries were people live salary to salary, the extra expense bites.

Yeah, but we have all seen the generosity of Russia, they are not friends - they'd rather enslave you to be at their mercy. Far better to take the harsh hit for now and permanently be free of anything russian for prosperous future, be it gas or whatever. It is no wonder some eastern european countries have pro-Russia people when they don't see the fact that Russia is the one blackmailing them, resulting in them suffering but the blame is somehow put on EU itself.

Weirdly enough russians are burning the excess gas near finnish border, instead of storing it for selling them to more obedient "friends". I guess some environmental damage is better?

[Nymrohd]

Yeah, but we have all seen the generosity of Russia, they are not friends - they'd rather enslave you to be at their mercy. Far better to take the harsh hit for now and permanently be free of anything russian for prosperous future, be it gas or whatever. It is no wonder some eastern european countries have pro-Russia people when they don't see the fact that Russia is the one blackmailing them, resulting in them suffering but the blame is somehow put on EU itself.

Weirdly enough russians are burning the excess gas near finnish border, instead of storing it for selling them to more obedient "friends". I guess some environmental damage is better?

I am not at all saying we should not break economic ties with Russia (we should have started it back in 2009, sped it up in 2014 and been done before this decade started). But let's not pretend this is not going to be a painful winter for a lot of people, and far more painful in some countries than others.

[Saradain]

To add. Russia is being sanctioned for their genocide. Russia also is the one who decided to separately blackmail the world and Europe with food sabotage (via ukrainian grain ships) and Russia also decided to cut off gas because their war machine-benefitting methods were not accepted regarding payments etc.

The blame solely lies on Russia, but many countries namely in Africa don't see the big picture - easy to blame the entity who resists an aggressor via sanctions when this shit happens far from them - instead of blaming the entity who directly is responsible for various crisises.

[Makabreska]

To add. Russia is being sanctioned for their genocide. Russia also is the one who decided to separately blackmail the world and Europe with food sabotage (via ukrainian grain ships) and Russia also decided to cut off gas because their war machine-benefitting methods were not accepted regarding payments etc.

The blame solely lies on Russia, but many countries namely in Africa don't see the big picture - easy to blame the entity who resists an aggressor via sanctions when this shit happens far from them - instead of blaming the entity who directly is responsible for various crisises.

Russia has been spreading it's influence in Africa for quite some time, throwing money at countries and giving them support. So it is no surprise, really.

[Saradain]

I am not at all saying we should not break economic ties with Russia. But let's not pretend this is not going to be a painful winter for a lot of people, and far more painful in some countries than others.

Here's hoping the nations with the harshest winter conditions will introduce protective methods for their citizens. But people of those nations hardly will suddenly just literally die over the winter directly because of the cold, or whatever the hell russian trolls want ignorant people to believe.

It's gonna fucking suck for sure. One year in not-so-distant future all Europe will be free of Russia-dependency.

[Iphie]

Russia has been spreading it's influence in Africa for quite some time, throwing money at countries and giving them support. So it is no surprise, really.

Not just that, russia is seen as the successor of the USSR which sponsored a LOT of independence movements in Africa, more than a few dictators came to power thanks to that. Additionally, a lot of Africans don't look further than: "they never colonized us, they're the good guys.", of course had Peter the Great not died then Madagascar might have had a different opinion.

[Kallisto]

Not just that, russia is seen as the successor of the USSR which sponsored a LOT of independence movements in Africa, more than a few dictators came to power thanks to that. Additionally, a lot of Africans don't look further than: "they never colonized us, they're the good guys.", of course had Peter the Great not died then Madagascar might have had a different opinion.

This is where the west should team with Kazakhstan pointing out that for a few days the USSR existed in Kazakhstan while the Russian federation existed. In essence saying that as Kazakhstan was the last place to leave the USSR they are the true heirs and successors.