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    So who shot at the Russian held plant? Aliens?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-zaporizhzhia/

    The fighting has raised global alarm about the risk of a nuclear accident and prompted urgent calls from world leaders for international inspectors to be granted access to the facility. Russia has occupied the nuclear power plant — Europe’s largest — since March, though Ukrainian workers continue to operate it. Explosions and fires in the area in recent days have led to the deaths of two workers and temporarily disconnected electricity to and from the plant, producing mass power outages in nearby villages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Is googling beyond your capability? I asked u, since Russia has the plant, who has been shooting at them if not ukrainians? Aliens?

    Even in the face of a 2nd chernobyl, u will still defend ukraine no matter what, talk about being ignorant of what's important...this will impact a lot of other countries if this goes bad...

    https://amp.france24.com/en/europe/2...-nuclear-plant

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has warned Russian soldiers who attack Europe's largest nuclear power station or use it as a base to shoot from that they will become a "special target".
    maybe the russians shouldnt have fucking invaded.

    heres a story for you : https://theins.ru/en/politics/254637

    'Russian security forces have been kidnapping, torturing and killing employees of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and residents of Energodar, a satellite city of the power plant, several independent sources has told The Insider. According to ZNPP employees, the Russian military is constantly shelling power lines to disconnect the plant from the Ukrainian grid, hoping to connect it to the Russian one afterwards, and they also intend to remove American nuclear fuel, which had been loaded into four of the plant's six power units. Meanwhile, as The Insider previously reported, the Russian military has been stockpiling munitions right inside the plant, which, if detonated, could lead to a nuclear disaster.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    So who shot at the Russian held plant? Aliens?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-zaporizhzhia/

    The fighting has raised global alarm about the risk of a nuclear accident and prompted urgent calls from world leaders for international inspectors to be granted access to the facility. Russia has occupied the nuclear power plant — Europe’s largest — since March, though Ukrainian workers continue to operate it. Explosions and fires in the area in recent days have led to the deaths of two workers and temporarily disconnected electricity to and from the plant, producing mass power outages in nearby villages.
    Hang on... Russia stages an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, kills and kidnaps their citizens, bombs their shopping centres, train stations, homes, schools, etc but you somehow think Ukraine is in some way to blame for any of this?!?

    If it wasn't so distasteful it would be embarrassing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    maybe the russians shouldnt have fucking invaded.

    heres a story for you : https://theins.ru/en/politics/254637

    'Russian security forces have been kidnapping, torturing and killing employees of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and residents of Energodar, a satellite city of the power plant, several independent sources has told The Insider. According to ZNPP employees, the Russian military is constantly shelling power lines to disconnect the plant from the Ukrainian grid, hoping to connect it to the Russian one afterwards, and they also intend to remove American nuclear fuel, which had been loaded into four of the plant's six power units. Meanwhile, as The Insider previously reported, the Russian military has been stockpiling munitions right inside the plant, which, if detonated, could lead to a nuclear disaster.'
    Are u for real? That's beyond ridiculous. Was that written by navalny? Lul

    Tell how ur source gets its info from a Russian held military base? Pigeons?

    And that is not how u xhange the electricity, that's beyond stupid. "Those ruski soldiers don't want those local ethnic ruski civilians to have electricity for a long while, until its rerouted with a new grid that will sprout forward in the middke of a conflict"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Hang on... Russia stages an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, kills and kidnaps their citizens, bombs their shopping centres, train stations, homes, schools, etc but you somehow think Ukraine is in some way to blame for any of this?!?

    If it wasn't so distasteful it would be embarrassing!
    So u think with ur accusations, giving them a 2nd chernobyl is no big deal then??

    And what about the neighboring countries civilians, ukraine military should give them radiation??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    So u think with ur accusations, giving them a 2nd chernobyl is no big deal then??

    And what about the neighboring countries civilians, ukraine military should give them radiation??
    I think you're parroting yet more Russian lies.

    Maybe Russia should have stayed at home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Is googling beyond your capability? I asked u, since Russia has the plant, who has been shooting at them if not ukrainians? Aliens?

    Even in the face of a 2nd chernobyl, u will still defend ukraine no matter what, talk about being ignorant of what's important...this will impact a lot of other countries if this goes bad...

    https://amp.france24.com/en/europe/2...-nuclear-plant

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has warned Russian soldiers who attack Europe's largest nuclear power station or use it as a base to shoot from that they will become a "special target".
    It is not beyond my capabilities, you however claimed Ukraine issued an admission that they shelled the plant, and that it's "all over the news", when it is not.

    Then when pressed on that, all you've got is a nearly 3 weeks old statement by Zelensky not even about the plant itself, but a warning to the Russian soldiers there?

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    Don't feed the Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    Don't feed the Russian.
    Bulgarian rather, which makes it even more sad that he's buying into the Russian propaganda and swallowing it whole:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    You have 13000 Russians, we in Bulgaria has almost three times that, 31679 Russians, yet you don't hear us crying like little girls "the Russians are gonna invade!!!1111oneone"
    Maybe if you tried cooperation instead of confrontation? I mean you have no real reasons not to cooperate with Russia.
    And on that note, that's a post that has not aged well in itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    That you regard Russia Today as a reliable source explains quite a lot about why your views are so full of misinformation.
    I believe he has said he is Russian, so him using Russian propaganda isn't entire surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Bulgarian rather, which makes it even more sad that he's buying into the Russian propaganda and swallowing it whole:
    Unfortunately, a large number of Bulgarians are buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Bulgarian rather, which makes it even more sad that he's buying into the Russian propaganda and swallowing it whole:



    And on that note, that's a post that has not aged well in itself.
    Both western n ru news, nuclear plant held by russia, or u think washingtonpost n the rest is owned by kremlin?

    I ask again, stop chicken out, who is shooting at the russian held plant?

    As for Bulgaria, it's one of the countries in the neighborhood, that don't want a 2nd chernobyl.

    So, I do care.


    If ukraine wants to fight russia, NOT AT A FUCKING NUCLEAR PLANT FFS. Ukraine is acring like unhinged rogue state that wants to win at any price, incl making its own citizens glow green n neighbor countries too..

    Kinda hard to care about a state that cares so little..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Both western n ru news, nuclear plant held by russia, or u think washingtonpost n the rest is owned by kremlin?

    I ask again, stop chicken out, who is shooting at the russian held plant?

    As for Bulgaria, it's one of the countries in the neighborhood, that don't want a 2nd chernobyl.

    So, I do care.


    If ukraine wants to fight russia, NOT AT A FUCKING NUCLEAR PLANT FFS. Ukraine is acring like unhinged rogue state that wants to win at any price, incl making its own citizens glow green n neighbor countries too..

    Kinda hard to care about a state that cares so little..
    You would excuse ANYTHING Russia is doing. Including Russians planning to steal a whole nuclear plant's worth of energy. Sad...

    Let's just let Russia capture anything and everything, if Ukraine fights back, they are bad guys for having to use more than sticks and stones to fight, thus damaging stuff.



    But that's nothing new from you. You'll parrot Russian lies until infracted, then you back off for a while and return hoping people forget about you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Both western n ru news, nuclear plant held by russia, or u think washingtonpost n the rest is owned by kremlin?

    I ask again, stop chicken out, who is shooting at the russian held plant?

    As for Bulgaria, it's one of the countries in the neighborhood, that don't want a 2nd chernobyl.

    So, I do care.


    If ukraine wants to fight russia, NOT AT A FUCKING NUCLEAR PLANT FFS. Ukraine is acring like unhinged rogue state that wants to win at any price, incl making its own citizens glow green n neighbor countries too..

    Kinda hard to care about a state that cares so little..
    If Russia is so concerned about the possibility of their hostile occupation of a power plant causing a meltdown, they could always just leave.

    Why don't they leave? Why are the Russians risking not only the lives of their soldiers, but apparently the lives of other people who might be affected by the power plant should it go into meltdown because they've made it a target?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    You would excuse ANYTHING Russia is doing. Including Russians planning to steal a whole nuclear plant's worth of energy. Sad...

    Let's just let Russia capture anything and everything, if Ukraine fights back, they are bad guys for having to use more than sticks and stones to fight, thus damaging stuff.



    But that's nothing new from you. You'll parrot Russian lies until infracted, then you back off for a while and return hoping people forget about you
    TBF I don't think "don't blow up the nuclear power plant even if it has Russians in it!" is the super spicy take people are freaking the fuck out about in this thread. I'm pretty sure the Russians can't win merely by holding it, I'm not sure how many Russian troops it could hold and without knowing that I'd only speculate that its main value as a military target is to allow the storage of Arms and Munitions where denial of access is a key Ukrainian military aim.

    The Russian war machine is admittedly impossible to understand but surely shelling its own troops in a known piece of occupied territory seems a bit of a stretch no? I mean it's not been shelling Kherson has it?

    Also fuck Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    TBF I don't think "don't blow up the nuclear power plant even if it has Russians in it!" is the super spicy take people are freaking the fuck out about in this thread. I'm pretty sure the Russians can't win merely by holding it, I'm not sure how many Russian troops it could hold and without knowing that I'd only speculate that its main value as a military target is to allow the storage of Arms and Munitions where denial of access is a key Ukrainian military aim.

    The Russian war machine is admittedly impossible to understand but surely shelling its own troops in a known piece of occupied territory seems a bit of a stretch no? I mean it's not been shelling Kherson has it?

    Also fuck Russia.
    There's a reason russians are acting awfully calm during the said bombardments of the nuclear plant - because they know they are not actually shelled by Ukraine. Just classic ol' Russia faking everything. Because Russia can simply NOT aim at the exact plant, just around it.

    That's the thing here, no one wants a nuclear plant to go into meltdown, russians inside or not. But these troll parrots regurgitating utter falsehoods and putting their whole anti-Ukraine argument around it gets old here.

    Ukraine has zero reasons to cause a meltdown, to wipe out a big chunk of their energy needs. Russia has all the reasons to make the world think Ukraine is reckless enough to do so, to just wipe out some orcs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    You would excuse ANYTHING Russia is doing. Including Russians planning to steal a whole nuclear plant's worth of energy. Sad...

    Let's just let Russia capture anything and everything, if Ukraine fights back, they are bad guys for having to use more than sticks and stones to fight, thus damaging stuff.



    But that's nothing new from you. You'll parrot Russian lies until infracted, then you back off for a while and return hoping people forget about you
    What part of nuclear plant being off limits u don't understand? There's a whole country to fight over, one plant if damaged will hurt EVERYONE.


    N that is real reason I don't post here often, so little common sense in this thread..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    What part of nuclear plant being off limits u don't understand? There's a whole country to fight over, one plant if damaged will hurt EVERYONE.


    N that is real reason I don't post here often, so little common sense in this thread..
    Sweet irony. Off-limits, but not for Russia right? Why is Russia at the plant again?

    How about Russia fucks off from the plant and never go there again, and we don't have a risk whatsoever - no russians, no need for closeby warfare.

    Common sense - you lack it. Okay for Russia to take a nuclear power plant as hostage, to store their weapons there for "safety" and reach for their own genocide forces.

    Not okay for Ukraine to stop Russia from performing the greatest energy heist in history

    Yeah, don't post here please, after all it's you getting chased off the thread for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    What part of nuclear plant being off limits u don't understand?
    Yeah, so why is Russia there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    What part of nuclear plant being off limits u don't understand? There's a whole country to fight over, one plant if damaged will hurt EVERYONE.


    N that is real reason I don't post here often, so little common sense in this thread..
    Hold on, arent there russians in that plant? Also, you lack even more common sense then all of us combined.

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    Oryx also documents Ukrainian losses so they are impartial in that regards.

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    And Russia is the one fucking around with the NPP. They have troops and weapons stationed there, even in the power plant which was shown on video with the IAEA inspectors walking past.

    And who can forget the Russian 'expert' trying to explain how the artillery shell that came from the direction of Russian forces somehow did a 180 degree turn in the air so must have been Ukrainian. My children can come up with more convincing lies.

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    Video showing Russians firing off MRLS from right beside the nuclear power plant.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/christogr...64139780837378

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