1. #22881
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    So, what to make of this?

    Ok, I'm not sure I believe it, and if it is true what would the fall out be?
    An act of war against NATO for starters probably.
    Because you know, the entire continent being directly effected.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    An act of war against NATO for starters probably.
    Because you know, the entire continent being directly effected.
    Wouldn't that depend on the exact explosion? I mean Chornobyl was, from what I understand, still a relative edge case due a lot of things going wrong at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Wouldn't that depend on the exact explosion? I mean Chornobyl was, from what I understand, still a relative edge case due a lot of things going wrong at the same time.
    It would. An explosion doesn't automatically mean a meltdown, but it's obviously still never a good thing. Of course, it wouldn't be good for the Russians either, and especially not good for the regions of Ukraine Russia claims to be "liberating".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Wouldn't that depend on the exact explosion? I mean Chornobyl was, from what I understand, still a relative edge case due a lot of things going wrong at the same time.
    Yeah but that is 'what are the odds it goes boom without actively trying to make it go boom'. If you actively try to blow it up its still going to be just as bad.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrouded View Post
    It would. An explosion doesn't automatically mean a meltdown, but it's obviously still never a good thing. Of course, it wouldn't be good for the Russians either, and especially not good for the regions of Ukraine Russia claims to be "liberating".
    They said it themselves: scorched earth. If Russians can't have it, then nobody can and they are willing to use nuclear fire for that purpose.

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    We immediately need to deploy more thoughts and prayers to counter this new threat.

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    I don't doubt Russia would do it, but it proves they just don't think as contamination from it would reach Russia and contaminate the water supply leading to Crimea.

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    The US just lobbed another billion dollars of military aid to Ukraine, including more ammo for the HIMARS, 75,000 155mm rounds, 20,000 120mm mortar rounds and mortars, ammo for the NASAMS system (a ground based launcher that fires AMRAAMS and Sidewinder air to air missiles), claymore mines, C4 explosives and more.

    They also confirmed that anti-radiation missiles that could be used by Ukrainian aircraft, without specifying what missiles or what aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    I don't doubt Russia would do it, but it proves they just don't think as contamination from it would reach Russia and contaminate the water supply leading to Crimea.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The US just lobbed another billion dollars of military aid to Ukraine, including more ammo for the HIMARS, 75,000 155mm rounds, 20,000 120mm mortar rounds and mortars, ammo for the NASAMS system (a ground based launcher that fires AMRAAMS and Sidewinder air to air missiles), claymore mines, C4 explosives and more.

    They also confirmed that anti-radiation missiles that could be used by Ukrainian aircraft, without specifying what missiles or what aircraft.
    People who whine about "why do we give so much money to Ukraine but can't pay for xyz domestic problem" don't seem to realize how small 9 billion dollars (so far) is in the grand scheme of things. Especially with what you get from it, and what the alternative is. Yet, 2 trillion for a useless war in a country that didn't even want democracy or help (apparently) is ok?

    In Sweden, we're very happy to help them. Not just morally correct, but we have a lot of stuff in storage that would just waste away.

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    Russia starts stripping jetliners for parts as sanctions bite

    Russian airlines, including state-controlled Aeroflot, are stripping jetliners to secure spare parts they can no longer buy abroad because of Western sanctions, four industry sources told Reuters.

    The steps are in line with advice Russia's government provided in June for airlines to use some aircraft for parts to ensure the remainder of foreign-built planes can continue flying at least through 2025.

    Sanctions imposed on Russia after it sent its troops into Ukraine in late February have prevented its airlines from obtaining spare parts or undergoing maintenance in the West.

    Aviation experts have said that Russian airlines would be likely to start taking parts from their planes to keep them airworthy, but these are the first detailed examples.

    At least one Russian-made Sukhoi Superjet 100 and an Airbus A350, both operated by Aeroflot, are currently grounded and being disassembled, one source familiar with the matter said.

    The source declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the issue.

    The Airbus A350 is almost brand new, the source said.

    Most of Russia's fleet of aircraft consists of Western passenger jets.

    Equipment was being taken from a couple of Aeroflot's Boeing 737s and Airbus A320s, as the carrier needs more spare parts from those models for its other Boeing 737s and Airbus A320s, the source said.

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    Not flying with Aeroflot anytime soon then, or ever really. This also feels like going back 30-40 years.

    Didn't China also say they'd not help russia with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Didn't China also say they'd not help russia with this?
    Russia says China refuses to supply aircraft parts after sanctions

    March 10.

    So, yes.

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    There was talk of Iran being willing to help out at one point.

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    In other warrant-related news, Judge authorizes warrant for US to seize Russian oligarch's $90 million private plane

    The Airbus A319-100 aircraft, authorities say, is owned by Andrei Skoch, a member of Russia's State Duma and a billionaire who made his fortune through a stake in a conglomerate in the metals and mining industry. Skoch has been on the US sanctions list since 2018 for Russia's invasion of Crimea, the eastern region of Ukraine. The plane is believed to be in Kazakhstan, authorities said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Apparently car sales are down 75% in Russia as well.
    Given car production has collapsed like 97%, that makes sense. Very soon they will simply have no cars to sell.

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    According to a report (https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...sment-august-8) the threat to blow up the nuclear reactor may have been falsified.

    Although it is for sure russians are purposefully using the reactor to store volatile ammunition and such.

    This likely misreporting distracts from the very real risks of Russia’s militarization of the Zaporizhzhia NPP, which may include mining the plant and almost certainly includes the unsafe storage of military armaments near nuclear reactors and nuclear waste storage facilities.

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    Two alleged hits on an ammo dump and a weapons depot just North of Crimea.

    Not sure what was used as those are, as far as I can tell, well and truly out of range of the HIMARS munitions, or at the extreme limits if they'd drive 'em up to the literal frontlines.

    https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...91463748927490

    https://twitter.com/michaelh992/stat...79337739194368


    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    According to a report (https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...sment-august-8) the threat to blow up the nuclear reactor may have been falsified.

    Although it is for sure russians are purposefully using the reactor to store volatile ammunition and such.

    I really want to believe this, I would also not discount the possibility that the general acted on his own and the russians aren't AS insane as this seemed to show them to be.
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-08-09 at 09:19 AM.

  18. #22898
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Two alleged hits on an ammo dump and a weapons depot just North of Crimea.

    Not sure what was used as those are, as far as I can tell, well and truly out of range of the HIMARS munitions, or at the extreme limits if they'd drive 'em up to the literal frontlines.

    https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...91463748927490

    https://twitter.com/michaelh992/stat...79337739194368





    I really want to believe this, I would also not discount the possibility that the general acted on his own and the russians aren't AS insane as this seemed to show them to be.
    I think they got extended range rockets from the US in the latest package.

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    Airbases on Crimea hit or "spontaneously" exploded. These are more than 200 kilometers away from the frontline so that rules out HIMARS unless they got 300 km munitions and even then I'm doubting the US signed off on that, as in Biden was quite clear on that.

    https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status...89234052997122

    https://twitter.com/SputnikATONews/s...88235900936193
    Last edited by Iphie; 2022-08-09 at 01:26 PM.

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