Russian invasion of Ukraine

[zorkuus]

How...are they more sovereign now than they were in January?

They prevented the ukrainian "nazis" from attacking ruZZia.
Yes, that is one of the forms of propaganda being fed to the gullible ruski population, that Ukraine was a threat to ruSSia.
Their state TV propagandists have even said that Ukraine might have done a chemical terrorist attack on ruski fascists if not stopped.
There is no bottom to the insane lies this rogue state is now willing to spread.

[Iphie]

Erdogan wants what's best for Erdogan.

Turkey has an election coming up in the first half of next year, and he's anything but secure ahead of that with what's been happening financially for many turks, with such an extreme inflation rate. It's my read of the situation that he's scrambling to try to find just about anything to boost his domestic support with.

It's my understanding that Erdogan cannot be re-elected himself anyway, due to limits imposed by the constitution, that obviously may not mean anything but it might be the reason why he's being a bitch.

[DarkTZeratul]

It's my understanding that Erdogan cannot be re-elected himself anyway, due to limits imposed by the constitution, that obviously may not mean anything but it might be the reason why he's being a bitch.

Didn't he already change it to make himself president for life?

[Corvus]

Seems the central electrical distribution centre in Belgorod (Russia) had a smoking accident, leaving half the city without power. What a shame.

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Oryx is struggling to keep up with the amount of Russian losses coming in from the recent counteroffensives. 76 vehicles and artillery pieces (and 1 plane) in just 1 update.

[Kaleredar]

Damn...never thought catfishing would turn so deadly but that's wild. This is why you should always try to think with your upper brain, gents. The lower brain is great, but it can get you into a lot of trouble.

It's a real testament to Ukrainian strength and Russian weakness that Ukrainian online presences tactically weed out Russian soldiers and use their own Ukrainian guile and Russian gullibility to surgically execute invading Russians.... meanwhile, all Russian online presences have to offer is people like Shalcker, pointlessly barking Russian conspiracy theories on a WoW gaming forum.

There's a certain quality and effectiveness difference, there.

[Bakis]

Russia is completely depended on its rail system, and its military especially so. The problem for them is it is also depended on foreign supplied bearings, which now are no longer available to them. The outcome? 10,000 of its staff on short-term 'contracts' to fight in Ukraine, with promises of massive wage increases. But as those in Ukraine are complaining, the pay is largely a myth.

I guess with trains not running, this lot are surplus to requirements and its cheaper to sent them off to de than to continue paying them.

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This is only from a Ukrainian source so far, so I'd want to see other sources first, but they are reporting Putin wants to meet Zelensky to discuss the completion of the 'special military operation.'

https://www.dialog.ua/ukraine/258158_1662296997

They couldnt mobilize troops quickly enough in WW1 for that very reason as well. They had a minuscule length of track in total.
Russian progress to still suffer from lack of trains, maintenance, tracks.

[Iphie]

Didn't he already change it to make himself president for life?

I don't think so, but it could be that you're right.

[Ripster42]

Didn't he already change it to make himself president for life?

That was putin. Erdogan is doing something different: His party is claiming that, because turkey reformed their constitution in 2017 to combine the rolls of PM and president, that this was actually only erdogan's first term in office as president. Just blatant corruption that no one can do anything about because the AKP have too much power.

[Bakis]

Putler and Erdogan will go all out US Supreme Court in time spent at their respective position(s).

[Corvus]

The latest ISW report states that Ukraine has captured around 400 square KM of territory in one day in its Kharkiv counteroffensive. Which just happens to be about the same amount of territory that Russia has taken in the last two months.

And the offensive is still going. The Ukrainians are loose in the rear echelons of the Russian forces and are still pushing forward. There is a NSFW video of a Russian Grad MRLS launcher that had been ambushed by Ukrainian infantry. These things have 50km+ ranges and are meant to be far, far behind the frontline. They shouldn't be anywhere near enemy infantry unless something has gone badly wrong. Which in this case it has.

[Gabriel]

Thoughts and Prayers with the invaders. Hope hell is as cold as they say.

[Cynical Asshole]

Thoughts and Prayers with the invaders. Hope hell is as cold as they say.

According to a war veteran from an older war, hell is neither burning nor freezing, it's just cold and wet.

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It's a real testament to Ukrainian strength and Russian weakness that Ukrainian online presences tactically weed out Russian soldiers and use their own Ukrainian guile and Russian gullibility to surgically execute invading Russians.... meanwhile, all Russian online presences have to offer is people like Shalcker, pointlessly barking Russian conspiracy theories on a WoW gaming forum.

There's a certain quality and effectiveness difference, there.

Shalcker is very likely a bunch of people using the same account. Propaganda bots are hardly lone wolves.

[jonnysensible]

Shalcker is very likely a bunch of people using the same account. Propaganda bots are hardly lone wolves.

Nah he was just some vatnik idiot.

Anytime you asked him about his sources it was the most garbage youtube channels and partisan opinion writers. Its like talking to someone who is into Qanon or fox news they are just suffering from an echo chamber and full on information pollution.

[Bakis]

Is that account perma-banned yet btw?
I've been waiting for a few years for mods do to the obvious thing.

[zealo]

According to a war veteran from an older war, hell is neither burning nor freezing, it's just cold and wet.

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Shalcker is very likely a bunch of people using the same account. Propaganda bots are hardly lone wolves.

As MASH once put it, paraphrasing, war is war and hell is hell, and war is worse because it's full of innocents and bystanders getting caught in the middle of it all.

[postman1782]

Is that account perma-banned yet btw?
I've been waiting for a few years for mods do to the obvious thing.

I think his last ban was permanent. He got like 3 30 day bans since the 3 day war started in Ukraine.

[Bakis]

I think his last ban was permanent. He got like 3 30 day bans since the 3 day war started in Ukraine.

Hallelujah

pst.. it's a Special operation

[zealo]

I think his last ban was permanent. He got like 3 30 day bans since the 3 day war started in Ukraine.

Yeah, hand-waving ethnic cleansing on the scale of hundreds of thousands of children seems to have been a step too far for the mods here from him, with how long he's been banned now.

[postman1782]

Yeah, hand-waving ethnic cleansing on the scale of hundreds of thousands of children seems to have been a step too far for the mods here from him, with how long he's been banned now.

Yeah, his last post was June 22nd, and he is still banned. I don't think they have anything higher than a 30 day ban. @Bakis

[Gabriel]

I think his last ban was permanent. He got like 3 30 day bans since the 3 day war started in Ukraine.

Worth the infraction I'll get for this.