At the end of the day if US and/or Europe decided to enforce sanctions, much of the south would be forced to go along because the reality is, however much China and Russia like to talk about their influence there, Foreign Direct Investment from the US and Europe remains the plurality if not the majority. If anything the ones loudest will be corrupt governments who chafe at the minimal restrictions placed on them by the West which China and Russia will not require for investment.
Don't forget the Flyboyz.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1569484504812556288
(Note: The ability to fly by believing you can only works for Orks in the Warhammer universe.)
The Russians did colonize. It's just that they colonized land next to their own which everybody somehow does not consider colonization. And they still hold on to all that land.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territ...tion_of_Russia
I meant specifically in Africa. There was an ill-fated attempt to colonize Madagascar as far as I know but Peter the Great died halfway through the trip so the ships returned when they heard that, or so I'm told.
So Africans don't perceive russians as colonizers but rather as freedom supporters as they helped a lot of nations gain independence from Western powers. (Which OBVIOUSLY had nothing to do with expanding the sphere of influence of the USSR.)
The situation is getting worse by day, a lot of deep hate is being built up for a long long term. This is not good at all, its very worrisome. Most of the soldiers dying on either side are mostly just young recruits, its just sad.
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I find it interesting: the fact social media tries to enforce a "no racist/nation bashing" policy as a whole but Russia seems to be exempt from that, even on this thread. Most of the time people aren't just shitting on Putin, but Russians as a whole, calling them all kinds of slurs, nicknames, and shitting on their state identity. But no one minds it all that much, if at all.
In real life right now, saying you're Russian or admiring your state in any way abroad actually earns you a literal ass-kicking, to the point people have been trying to deny their ethnicity altogether.
Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2
Pretty sure the “deep hate” is quite justified on the Ukrainians’ side, considering the wholesale murder and war crimes they had perpetrated against them.
If the Russians are looking for someone to hate, they should look to the leaders of their own country that sent them to die pointlessly.
“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
Words to live by.
There are lots of stories of racially motivated ass beatings and, more notably, Russian businesses facing arson attacks and vandalism.
While I doubt this will illicit much if any sympathy, that’s just the illustration of being openly Russian abroad right now unless you’re in the mafia or with Trump. Hell, some businesses and organizations will even ask you to denounce your country as we see in Sports.
I don't agree with the other poster when he said "hate runs on both sides", though. No one gives a shit if Russians hate Ukrainians or anyone for that matter. With everyone else, though, being Ukrainian right now earns you sympathy points by default.
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Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2
Well if your country is waging a genocidal war, I don't think it's unacceptable to demand people renounce it.
Also the Russian people are the ones enabling their government, they're all guilty.
If anything we're being far too lenient. Russians should be expelled or put into camps, like the Japanese were during WWII.
When I hear about some Russians protesting in Germany, demanding the German government ceases the arms shipments to Ukraine my blood boils. They should be arrested or shot on the spot for being terrorists.
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Generally I've never seen it called nation bashing when you discuss actions of an aggressor nation during a war.
you know there's the minority that still says the Russian citizens are just being "oppressed" by Putin/Kremlin and unable to do anything because the average person doesn't want to be skinned alive with their whole family and knifed to death.
It's up to the person to decide if it's their fault or not.
Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2
Lazarević: Are you a student of history, Mr. Drake? Nathan Drake: ...I've read a book or two. Lazarević: Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot - they were all GREAT men. But do you know why they prevailed? [beat] Because they had the will to do what other men could not. - Uncharted 2
Quite often yes.
However signs point to the guy who claimed they would shut the fuck up until nukes start flying and then failed to shut the fuck up despite no nukes being launched so far as not being genuine so sometimes it's pretty easy.
Edit: How is this trolling and/or worthy of an infraction?
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