Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

India joining China in giving Russia the big WTF U DOIN signs. Multipolarity going well for Russia.

When India and China agree that something you are doing is unwise it may be time to re-evaluate your life's choices.

Apparently putin was treated as a second rate leader at the SCO, including made to wait by other leaders and seated between smaller powers.

[YUPPIE]

Apparently putin was treated as a second rate leader at the SCO, including made to wait by other leaders and seated between smaller powers.

for a while now, Putin seems to be the opposite of badass. He was made to look like a bitch by Erdogan too a few months back. By all accounts, with his image of strength, he should be asserting his authority over these people and telling them what to do and what HE wants

but instead he looks like he's gonna get hung dry if he ever talks out of line in these meetings

[DarkTZeratul]

China will need Russia to watch its back, while it will eventually get to gnawing on Taiwan.

I think if anything, this whole debacle has shown how useless Russia would be in watching China's back.

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for a while now, Putin seems to be the opposite of badass. He was made to look like a bitch by Erdogan too a few months back.

"Being a badass" and "looking like a bitch" are traits that only matter in politicians to people like you, who have a laughably tenuous grasp of how international relations wor.k

[YUPPIE]

whatever became of Russia's claim of importing North Korean cannon fodder to the Ukraine frontlines?

[Iphie]

whatever became of Russia's claim of importing North Korean cannon fodder to the Ukraine frontlines?

Like so many claims, threats and bold actions: nothing.

[Saradain]

whatever became of Russia's claim of importing North Korean cannon fodder to the Ukraine frontlines?

North Korea probably doesn't want to declare war against Ukraine to hasten anything bad coming their way eventually...Because that's what it is, you send your military troops to genocide a sovereign nation, you declare war against them.

[jonnysensible]

lol Wagner and volunteer troops going back to Russia from the front after being used as cannon fodder and getting into fights with Rosgvardia.

Pissed off that they got sent to the meatgrinder and Russia didnt mobilize.

[Kallisto]

North Korea probably doesn't want to declare war against Ukraine to hasten anything bad coming their way eventually...Because that's what it is, you send your military troops to genocide a sovereign nation, you declare war against them.

Likely also worried their troops will run off after seeing what the rest of the world is like compared to how North Korea is.

[YUPPIE]

Putin just made a bold statement claiming the West was plotting to destroy Russia from the inside out through espionage and invaded Ukraine to "stop it."

[zealo]

North Korea probably doesn't want to declare war against Ukraine to hasten anything bad coming their way eventually...Because that's what it is, you send your military troops to genocide a sovereign nation, you declare war against them.

Far more likely that North Korea just isn't getting anything substantial in the here and now out of doing that if they opted not to, than any concerns about their diplomatic status with Ukraine and fallout from that. They're already one of the most sanctioned countries on the whole planet next to Iran and Russia, and the whole act of formally declaring war is more and more becoming something of a historical curiosity, and not something widely preceding countries entering them.

[Unholyground]

That says more about Canadian media thinking Canadians aren't as interested, rather than anything about the war, which is still very much a high intensity one that hasn't slowed down in pace.

To be fair I don't go on Facebook more than like once or twice a month and I don't watch news anymore as it angers me 90% of the time and that's not good for my health.

I'll let other people worry about it and get stressed out about it, I'm sure it'll all be over soon enough.

[Bakis]

So yet another undeniable mass grave as a result of Russians. And the previously leaked video of Wagner group doing their best to recruit prisoners in Russian jails as ground combat troups.

Russians will be hated across the globe for decades in most parts.

[Corvus]

Modi publicly telling Putin off was unexpected. India have won themselves no friends with their previous responses but it is a start.

They aren't happy that Pakistan has been rewarded with f16s for their help though. Pakistan has a factory that manufactures 152mm ammo for soviet style artillery and the UK has been flying in many flighs of the stuff for the Ukrainians.

[YUPPIE]

Modi publicly telling Putin off was unexpected.

I'm more surprised Putin didn't try to kill him or threaten him over that. If you think that sounds extreme or over-the-top, look at how terrified Trump acts when pressed to say something antagonistic about Putin. I mean we're talking about a guy for whom the norm is death or torture for the slightest negative remark.

[DarkTZeratul]

I'm more surprised Putin didn't try to kill him or threaten him over that. If you think that sounds extreme or over-the-top, look at how terrified Trump acts when pressed to say something antagonistic about Putin

Putin is not the kind of bloviating, thin-skinned reactionary that Trump is. He's not so insecure he has to lash out publicly against every ill word leveled his way.

[Bakis]

Poor putin in his mini gathering on the international stage.

Hes the tiny junior partner to China which he try to cuddle with.
And on top of that India puts him off.
And reorganize gas and oil sells globally after decades of physical investments by Russia on infrastructure to the west and now shifting to the east wont make it.
On the other hand even if Russia sells to bargain price via the few possibilities of transport eastbound that can sustain their war crimes for quite some time.

But what none except the west can provide is the tech needed for Putler to in the long run avoid a total military and domestic disaster.
Seems the concerns were more widespread than at least the west media reported among Russian domestic officials.
2,5 weeks of Ukrainian immense progress and even Goebells state media in Russia have shows and interviews with officials stating (after 7 months),
everything from that there are issues <--> the invasion was a mistake with the few days of special operations (TM facists) to de-nazify Ukraine and liberate our brothers concept promised.

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Putin is not the kind of bloviating, thin-skinned reactionary that Trump is. He's not so insecure he has to lash out publicly against every ill word leveled his way.

To be fair Putin doesnt need to, somehow people tend to die when speaking up.

[DarkTZeratul]

To be fair Putin doesnt need to, somehow people tend to die when speaking up.

I mean, yes, there's that, too. I'm just commenting that the general idea of "I'm surprised Putin didn't do this, because Trump would have" is ridiculous because Putin and Trump are different people.

[Bakis]

I mean, yes, there's that, too. I'm just commenting that the general idea of "I'm surprised Putin didn't do this, because Trump would have" is ridiculous because Putin and Trump are different people.

Ah, sorry

Any comparison with Trump vs anything should just be ignored.
There are dictators, demoractic leaders and everything in between.

And then there are crazy (ex) leaders like Trump

[YUPPIE]

is something about to happen or is Joe Biden just being himself? He's warned Putin twice the last few days to NEVER even consider the use of nukes.

The Biden administration has announced another $600 million in military aid to help the Ukrainian army maintain momentum against Russia. In an interview for this Sunday’s “60 Minutes,” Scott Pelley spoke with President Biden about Ukraine’s recent battlefield success — and the dangers that could bring.

“As Ukraine succeeds on the battlefield, Vladimir Putin is becoming embarrassed and pushed into a corner,” Pelley said to President Biden. “And I wonder, Mr. President, what you would say to him if he is considering using chemical or tactical nuclear weapons.”

“Don’t. Don’t. Don’t. You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II,” Mr. Biden said.

When Pelley asked what the consequences would be if Putin crossed that line, the president wouldn’t say.

“You think I would tell you if I knew exactly what it would be? Of course, I’m not gonna tell you. It’ll be consequential,” Mr. Biden said. “They’ll become more of a pariah in the world than they ever have been. And depending on the extent of what they do will determine what response would occur.”

If there's something I find interesting about this statement is mentally I've been wondering for a while now: "Why hasn't Putin deployed chemical weapons like in Syria if he's so desperate?" And I didn't realize that those were seen on the level of nuke bad.

[Zinstorm]

is something about to happen or is Joe Biden just being himself? He's warned Putin twice the last few days to NEVER even consider the use of nukes.

The Biden administration has announced another $600 million in military aid to help the Ukrainian army maintain momentum against Russia. In an interview for this Sunday’s “60 Minutes,” Scott Pelley spoke with President Biden about Ukraine’s recent battlefield success — and the dangers that could bring.

“As Ukraine succeeds on the battlefield, Vladimir Putin is becoming embarrassed and pushed into a corner,” Pelley said to President Biden. “And I wonder, Mr. President, what you would say to him if he is considering using chemical or tactical nuclear weapons.”

“Don’t. Don’t. Don’t. You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II,” Mr. Biden said.

When Pelley asked what the consequences would be if Putin crossed that line, the president wouldn’t say.

“You think I would tell you if I knew exactly what it would be? Of course, I’m not gonna tell you. It’ll be consequential,” Mr. Biden said. “They’ll become more of a pariah in the world than they ever have been. And depending on the extent of what they do will determine what response would occur.”

If there's something I find interesting about this statement is mentally I've been wondering for a while now: "Why hasn't Putin deployed chemical weapons like in Syria if he's so desperate?" And I didn't realize that those were seen on the level of nuke bad.

Due your not getting your nuke (or chemical) usage. Give it a rest already.