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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Well thankfully these "teachers" did not get a chance to apply their curriculum but we have seen elsewhere what culture genocide via education can look like and it invariable ends in violence against children.
    It's just a mental thing, unless these teachers were forced to go, a possibility I do not discount, they are complicit to genocide. I'm just saying it sounds so ridiculous to say that a teacher is as bad as a soldier, you know?

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    Lock them up so they can ponder their actions, what Russia is attempting with those teachers isn't new but a centuries old trick out of their imperialism playbook.

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    While Putin is hiding in his bunker, Zelensky went to Izium to raise the flag.

    https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...ted-izium.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biglog View Post
    One side-effect we're seeing the Russian invasion is in Armenia-Azerbaijan the last couple of days. Russia has been reluctant to arm Armenia, despite Russia asking Armenia for military help in Ukraine. Meanwhile Russia is also semi-friendly with Azerbaijan, having good diplomatic relations and selling them arms. The last war in N-K only ended because Russia intervened to demand a cease fire. Armenia's military has little to no chance against a full-scale invasion by Azerbaijan (without Russian help) if it moves forward since Azerbaijan's is much better equipped and funded.

    Azerbaijan kind of tested the waters with attacks yesterday and the global response was muted. It sounds like those attacks have resumed today. I'm not sure Russia this time will be in a military position to help Armenia if things heat up there, which is probably why Azerbaijan is feeling the waters now. And it would be odd for the West to militarily help a CSTO-member Russian ally. Armenia is in a really tough situation now indirectly from the invasion of Ukraine.
    Armenia is in a no win situation. On one side they have Turkey. A nation that denies a genocide happened to the Armenians to the point even asking about it can land you in prison, also is a NATO member.

    On the other side is Azerbaijan, a nation whose leadership had pushed for ethnic violence against them even before the USSR fell and is for all purposes in the Turkish sphere. Meaning it's practically a NATO partner without it being in NATO.

    Through no fault of its own it pretty much has to buddy up with Russia for defence and Russia is unable to do anything due to Putin's stupidity in attacking Ukraine and is thus isolated.

    At this point I doubt anything will stop the Azerbaijan military from linking up the main part of the country with the exclave on the other side of Armenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Another big haul on Oryx
    the list is mental.

    1000 tanks took 3 months and then 500 vehicles took 2 days lmao

    saw some interesting tidbits like :

    128 tank losses have been visually confirmed during the counteroffensive. In addition the type of 29 older losses has been narrowed down.

    66% of destroyed ones are older tanks while 65% of captured ones are newer.


    and

    (Taken in total, the combat vehicle losses are representative of 8 battalions or 2.6 brigades)
    TANK: 102 (8.5 companies or 2+ battalions)
    IFV: 108 (9 companies or 2+ battalions)
    APC: 86 (7.1 companies 2- battalions)
    ARTILLERY: 66 (11 batteries or 2- arty battalions)
    ENGINEER/RECOVERY: 25 (3+ companies)
    Air Defense: 11 (1 company)
    C2: 24 (3 companies)
    MRAP TYPE: 15 (1+ company)
    TRUCK: 89 (8 companies)
    Drone: 2
    Fixed Wing Aircraft: 5


    This represent 9% of total losses since the war began in this one action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    At this point I doubt anything will stop the Azerbaijan military from linking up the main part of the country with the exclave on the other side of Armenia.
    That remains to be seen, but the land they're taking now (Nagorno-Karabakh) was always recognised as part of Azerbaijan, even if it was an autonomous district with de facto independence through Russian influence. Linking up with Nahichevan would require violating the internationally recognised borders of a sovereign country, something the international community is forced to respond to, especially after Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    They know very well what is going on and what they are doing, and the intent behind it.

    They are just as guilty and should be dealt with accordingly
    Nobody’s claiming they didn’t commit a warcrime… just that it isn’t quite on the same level as killing/raping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Im confused as to who is making that comparison? The only one I see doing it is the person I quoted, unless I'm missing something.
    Iphie at 10:15 today, replying to nymrohd who claimed the teachers wete committing cultural genocide.

    Bit of miscommunication here I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    Nobody’s claiming they didn’t commit a warcrime… just that it isn’t quite on the same level as killing/raping.
    its why they are only getting 15 years in jail. Not sure what the legal grounds are in Ukraine.

    my own moral beliefs are that its fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I'd like to add to the PoW topic that Ukraine is considering those Russian-instilled teachers to be war criminals and not just average PoWs.

    So life imprisonment may very well apply.
    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Im confused as to who is making that comparison? The only one I see doing it is the person I quoted, unless I'm missing something.
    My response was also in reference to that post by Yuppie. Though I do wonder about the legality of designating them as PoWs I thought you had to be a recognised combatant for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    its why they are only getting 15 years in jail. Not sure what the legal grounds are in Ukraine.

    my own moral beliefs are that its fair.
    That's a whole lot more in line with what I think is fair as well.

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    This "war" is still going on? I only hear about it on here now lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    This "war" is still going on? I only hear about it on here now lol.
    That says more about Canadian media thinking Canadians aren't as interested, rather than anything about the war, which is still very much a high intensity one that hasn't slowed down in pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    My response was also in reference to that post by Yuppie. Though I do wonder about the legality of designating them as PoWs I thought you had to be a recognised combatant for that.
    Russia refuses to declare, or even acknowledge it IS a war, so they (ruZZlamists of any sort in Ukraine) should not even be captured as prisoners of war. But as...terrorists that they are.
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    Russia refuses to declare, or even acknowledge it IS a war, so they (ruZZlamists of any sort in Ukraine) should not even be captured as prisoners of war. But as...terrorists that they are.
    Also true. Of course if we go that way then they also haven't committed war crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    Russia refuses to declare, or even acknowledge it IS a war, so they (ruZZlamists of any sort in Ukraine) should not even be captured as prisoners of war.
    They are still PoWs
    In addition to the provisions which shall be implemented in peace time, the present Convention shall apply to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them.
    3rd Geneva convention "Treatment of Prisoners of War.", signed by Ukraine (in 2010) and Russia (well, they haven't ratified it yet).

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    so Xi Jinping is announced to specifically meeting Putin to only discuss Ukraine and Taiwan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    They are still PoWs

    3rd Geneva convention "Treatment of Prisoners of War.", signed by Ukraine (in 2010) and Russia (well, they haven't ratified it yet).
    Much like the convention would not consider ISIS caliphate as legitimate state, neither should Russia be considered anything but temporary terrorist state awaiting dissolution. So, capture and try them as terrorists anyway, not PoWs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigramx View Post
    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Russia clearing out its prisons : https://twitter.com/christogrozev/st...87287643414528

    They really need to be kicked off the UN Security Council, its always been a bit of a joke organization but this is on the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    so Xi Jinping is announced to specifically meeting Putin to only discuss Ukraine and Taiwan.
    he went to all the satellite states and gave them security assurances. China isn't a dragon its a vulture, about to eat the Russian bears carcass.

    Rough break for most of these states stuck in between Russian and China but China will offer them a better deal.

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    I assume this is just baseless rumours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    I assume this is just baseless rumours?
    that guy is a full on bullshit merchant. Hes the one whos been pushing a palace coup narrative since the war started. if you go back in this thread you will see his bullshit. hes like Louise mensch, some mad cunt self promoting.

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