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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    You are right. I'm just tired of so many people acting like violent revolutions were something that would never ever happen ever again, and act so shocked that one might be needed right now.
    violent revolutions are very rare and require very dire circumstances. The problem for Putin is that by threatening to send everyone to die in a pointless meatgrinder of his own creation is that he is creating the very circumstances needed for a violent revolution.

    And this mobilization isn't even going to solve anything, bodies with no equipment and no training are not going to stop the Ukrainian advance, the world will ensure they run out of Russians to shoot before they run out of bullets.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    And this mobilization isn't even going to solve anything, bodies with no equipment and no training are not going to stop the Ukrainian advance, the world will ensure they run out of Russians to shoot before they run out of bullets.
    Not sure about that. Running out of ammo is real concern since world's weapon production is not up to the task of prolonged nation vs. nation war.

  3. #23923
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Not sure about that. Running out of ammo is real concern since world's weapon production is not up to the task of prolonged nation vs. nation war.
    I'm fairly sure the collective west will be able to outproduce russia.

  4. #23924
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I hear sending a bunch of rando's into a combat zone with no training is generally actually a very good strategy and in no way endangers whatever unfortunate units they are attached to. Or maybe they'll be their own unit or something and can unironically be Russia recreating "Operation Human Shield".
    Or they may act like units formed of minorities of Austria-Hungary did in the first World War. All too often they just surrendered en masse.

  5. #23925
    Protests in Russia will amount to nothing.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...eb2x&context=3

    This "brave" lot will get utterly destroyed in Ukraine.

  6. #23926
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    I'm fairly sure the collective west will be able to outproduce russia.
    He meant "concern for russia". They already are buying old chinese ammo from n. korea and iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Protests in Russia will amount to nothing.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...eb2x&context=3

    This "brave" lot will get utterly destroyed in Ukraine.
    Yea, even Iranian women have more balls than russian men, nothing new.
    My nickname is "LDEV", not "idev". (both font clarification and ez bait)

    yall im smh @ ur simplified english

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    Well here is a fun thread. Paraphrasing The Economist issue published on 14th of October 1854 about the then current Crimean war:

    https://twitter.com/DecodingTrolls/s...t-94GC1JA&s=19

    tl;dr it was a shitshow of Russian ineffectiveness and corruption and if they adjusted few dates and names they could reprint that article as accurate analysis on current situation.

    Russia never changes.

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    Orban got his marching orders it seems. Hungary wants to lift sanctions on russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Orban got his marching orders it seems. Hungary wants to lift sanctions on russia.
    Probably because the EU is going to sanction Hungary.

  10. #23930
    Quote Originally Posted by Vladier View Post
    And people who say stuff like "corruption is okay as long as it's for the greater good" are Shalcker and his ilk, so why even bother spreading their views further?
    /shrug It's easier to go after the weakest positions. Especially when there are people like Shalcker around who are seemingly happy to be living examples of those sort of positions. I don't think it's quite the same as a strawman, but it's close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    Probably because the EU is going to sanction Hungary.
    Hope EU will finally crack down hard on this Putler agent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Hope EU will finally crack down hard on this Putler agent.
    The question is, how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Orban got his marching orders it seems. Hungary wants to lift sanctions on russia.
    He's going to be the tripping stone towards NATO then, if he's that clearly paid off by Putler.
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

  14. #23934
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Orban got his marching orders it seems. Hungary wants to lift sanctions on russia.
    A Hungarian military jet - which mostly gets used to haul his around when he's on holiday - flew to St. Petersburg on Tuesday and only returned on Thursday. The military is not telling who did what there, but Orbán had no public appearances during that time.

    Make of that what you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    He's going to be the tripping stone towards NATO then, if he's that clearly paid off by Putler.
    You know there is no procedure to kick someone out of the EU but you absolutely can suspend a NATO member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    The question is, how?
    Money, obviously. EU Commission already proposed it (unprecedentedly and unanimously) last week. 65% (7.5 bilion euros) less funding from EU. Voting it next month, and Hungary needs like 5 countries total to reject it. Enough is enough.
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2022-09-22 at 02:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    You know there is no procedure to kick someone out of the EU but you absolutely can suspend a NATO member.
    And frankly, where Turkey has leverage Hungary's is a whole lot less when/if the choice comes up between Hungary and Sweden/Finland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Money, obviously. EU Commission already proposed it (unprecedentedly and unanimously) last week. 65% (7.5 bilion euros) less funding from EU. Voting it next month, and Hungary needs like 5 countries total to reject it. Enough is enough.
    I mean sure but it still won't matter imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I mean sure but it still won't matter imo
    Wont matter, if they loose this amount of money? #doubt. EU money is the only thing that keeps Hungary in EU.
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2022-09-22 at 03:58 PM.
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  20. #23940
    So I guess some of the Russian milbloggers are getting called up and suddenly this war is a lot less fun and exciting for them.

    Oh noooooooooooes.

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