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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Duh. I already saw a mention that he reportedly had a "nazi shirt".
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ce-2022-09-26/

    Swastika on shirt, commits suicide after murdering kids, conveniently...Now authorities can decide his motives when the man is no longer alive to risk telling something else than Kremlin intends...

    Not saying it's a conspiracy, school shootings happen sadly. But why would a russian wear a nazi shirt when doing that kind of shit, especially if he really committed suicide after?

    Be it unlucky coincidence or not, Kremlin gonna have a field day using this as propaganda...Not that it would help much at all given how fucked their war goals are.
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    lol putin gives snowden citizenship, now draft him vlad!

    school number 88 in that shooting pretty big sign. there are plenty of nazis in russia.

    Rinaldo Nazzaro moved there to avoid us authorities etc.

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    Is it really a wise decision to send conscripts who don't want to fight forcefully into a war? I have to say if I was sent to the frontlines where I know I'm almost certainly going to die I would just turn the gun around the moment it's put into my hand and take down as many of the bastards as I could out of spite.

    300k disgruntled, barely trained and unwilling soldiers aint worth shit, they are just gonna be target practice and ammo soakers.
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    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said President Vladimir Putin "deeply mourns" the deaths. He described the incident as "a terrorist act by a person who apparently belongs to a neo-fascist organisation or group".

    Already laying the groundwork to "discover" it was an inside job my the ukranian nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Not saying it's a conspiracy, school shootings happen sadly. But why would a russian wear a nazi shirt when doing that kind of shit, especially if he really committed suicide after?
    Not going to downplay the display of nazi symbols, but some simply associate with the Nazi ideology because they see themselves as completely ostracized from society, similiar to how Nazism is being ostracized.
    I will take a wild guess and say there's a reasonable overlap between schoolshooters and people who believe in (or associate themselves with) extreme political ideologies.

    That's why how i see it, if this had happened anywhere else, nobody would be surprised if a schoolshooters wore Nazi Symbols.

    Or maybe that guy was an actual Nazi who despises the russian goverment and rather goes out on his "own terms" before being sent out to get blown up by Ukrainians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakna View Post
    Is it really a wise decision to send conscripts who don't want to fight forcefully into a war? I have to say if I was sent to the frontlines where I know I'm almost certainly going to die I would just turn the gun around the moment it's put into my hand and take down as many of the bastards as I could out of spite.

    300k disgruntled, barely trained and unwilling soldiers aint worth shit, they are just gonna be target practice and ammo soakers.
    300000 is still quite a lot to meat grinder. But mass deserting, surrenders and fraggings aren't impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    300000 is still quite a lot to meat grinder. But mass deserting, surrenders and fraggings aren't impossible.
    It's also quite a lot of wasted equipment and supplies though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakna View Post
    Is it really a wise decision to send conscripts who don't want to fight forcefully into a war? I have to say if I was sent to the frontlines where I know I'm almost certainly going to die I would just turn the gun around the moment it's put into my hand and take down as many of the bastards as I could out of spite.

    300k disgruntled, barely trained and unwilling soldiers aint worth shit, they are just gonna be target practice and ammo soakers.
    Even better. Ukraine reports ruskies are trying to draft people going to the referendum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Even better. Ukraine reports ruskies are trying to draft people going to the referendum.
    thats bad tho. Imagine you are an 18 year old ukranian who was chilling the fuck out and you didn't flee (maybe looking after a relative or whatever) and then war turns up, russians turn up and it sucks. They they come to your house with a bit of paper that says 'do you want to join russia, yes or no' and its men with guns asking you....then as soon as you tick yes because you dont want to get shot or arrested they draft you and send you to die for russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    thats bad tho. Imagine you are an 18 year old ukranian who was chilling the fuck out and you didn't flee (maybe looking after a relative or whatever) and then war turns up, russians turn up and it sucks. They they come to your house with a bit of paper that says 'do you want to join russia, yes or no' and its men with guns asking you....then as soon as you tick yes because you dont want to get shot or arrested they draft you and send you to die for russia.
    You don't have to be 18. They're recruiting even past middle aged men.

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    russia, admitting mistakes. What's their angle? Could they be seriously afraid of a revolt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    russia, admitting mistakes. What's their angle? Could they be seriously afraid of a revolt?
    No, it's just Putin using the opportunity to appear a wise and just ruler surrounded by idiots to pan out his rating. He always does that after doing something unpopular, if he can. Nothing will really be done, of course, it's just that the propaganda will tell everyone that everything's fixed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladier View Post
    No, it's just Putin using the opportunity to appear a wise and just ruler surrounded by idiots to pan out his rating. He always does that after doing something unpopular, if he can. Nothing will really be done, of course, it's just that the propaganda will tell everyone that everything's fixed now.
    Yup. There is even a perfect saying describing this: "good tsar, bad boyars".

    In other news - Polish venue cancels Roger Waters concert after he opposed sending weapons to Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    In other news - Polish venue cancels Roger Waters concert after he opposed sending weapons to Ukraine.
    He should team up with Noam Chomsky and tell us how this is all the fault of the west.

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    Snowden is a good example of an old Cold War principle: the punishment for spying for Russia is living in Russia.

    Always found it very karmic how depressed Kim Philby was living in Russia after defecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    russia, admitting mistakes. What's their angle? Could they be seriously afraid of a revolt?
    They aren't admitting anything. There's actually nothing in the official decree that describes a "partial mobilization". It's very open to interpretation and that's how it's treated by the recruiters.

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    The newly mobilised are being told to bring their own medicine as there is none available, and to ask their wives for tampons to stop the bleeding from bullet holes.

    https://twitter.com/SevaUT/status/15...3oKOwBhzI95Xfg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    russia, admitting mistakes. What's their angle? Could they be seriously afraid of a revolt?
    It's the classic Russian 'the tsar is good, the boyars are bad'. They are throwing a few lower ranks under the bus while saying Putin will fix it. It's the way Russia has always operated.

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    The deputy mufti of Crimea appealed to all muslims in Russia to surrender if at all possible, but if not then he knows where to shoot, and he thinks they do too.

    Looks like fragging is back on the menu boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    300000 is still quite a lot to meat grinder. But mass deserting, surrenders and fraggings aren't impossible.
    People always flee war. 11 million fled Ukraine.




    https://www.nj.com/news/2022/09/more...uge-in-nj.html

    More than 11M people fled Ukraine. Meet one family finding refuge in N.J.

    Published: Sep. 04, 2022, 7:30 a.m.

    The pair are among the estimated 11.5 million people who have fled Ukraine in the six months since they were torn from their homeland amid a relentlessly brutal war. Total pop is 41 million on wiki. So 25% fled the nation.
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    That was almost entirely women and children, a lot who have now returned. Unlike Russian men, the Ukrainian men stayed and fought. They had more volunteers than they could use.

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    A Russian economist is saying Russia's economy will die by winter due to the mobilisation.

    https://fortune.com/2022/09/26/russi...-mobilization/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    That was almost entirely women and children, a lot who have now returned. Unlike Russian men, the Ukrainian men stayed and fought. They had more volunteers than they could use.

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    A Russian economist is saying Russia's economy will die by winter due to the mobilisation.

    https://fortune.com/2022/09/26/russi...-mobilization/
    That's what I was also thinking, 300k random civvies being pulled out of their regular day (or night) jobs to go fight in a war, what is that going to do to the economy when there is suddenly 300k less employees overnight?
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