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    Quote Originally Posted by Feltima View Post
    Right, that was my point about the US not having any civilian centers targeted, however, I was under the impression that European cities aren't that distant from launchers.
    Irrelevant. Even if there were no nukes in European countries, they are still part of NATO. And US is part of NATO. Ergo, US is not sitting it's thumb up it's butt. Meaning nukes are reserved for US targets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feltima View Post
    Right, that was my point about the US not having any civilian centers targeted, however, I was under the impression that European cities aren't that distant from launchers.

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    The Belogrod supposedly has 6 100 megaton "posideon torpedoes". Aint nobody said anything about radiation poisoning the waters for decades and mutant cows, however, an irridated tsunami sweeping London is a nightmare.

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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...drone-28150436
    ........... ah yes the "super uber doomsday weapon" that is suppose to cause radioactive Tsunamis, if you believe that shit actually works... I have a bridge to sell you in Kherson (totally not blown up I promise)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feltima View Post
    Right, that was my point about the US not having any civilian centers targeted, however, I was under the impression that European cities aren't that distant from launchers.

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    The Belogrod supposedly has 6 100 megaton "posideon torpedoes". Aint nobody said anything about radiation poisoning the waters for decades and mutant cows, however, an irridated tsunami sweeping London is a nightmare.

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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...drone-28150436
    Those are torpedoes you absolute chicken little, not to mention that there's some serious questions about the feasibility of them. russia's "normal" missile launched nukes are mostly under the 1 megaton range, and the reason they are is because russia's nukes are inaccurate, the US ones have a lower yield on average but are more accurate meaning their yield ends up where they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    Irrelevant. Even if there were no nukes in European countries, they are still part of NATO. And US is part of NATO. Ergo, US is not sitting it's thumb up it's butt. Meaning nukes are reserved for US targets.
    I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you saying that RU would prioritize strategic targets in US, or that the US would also nuke Russia as well per article 5?

    If the latter, there's no question about that, but there's no guarantee the US would strike RU before they launch, and they have first strike advantage right now thanks to the hypersonic missiles, we don't have a counter for hypersonic missiles yet.

    https://www.military.com/equipment/w...een-radar.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torched View Post
    ........... ah yes the "super uber doomsday weapon" that is suppose to cause radioactive Tsunamis, if you believe that shit actually works... I have a bridge to sell you in Kherson (totally not blown up I promise)
    See, you don't know that. That's your opinion, I'd rather not find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Those are torpedoes you absolute chicken little, not to mention that there's some serious questions about the feasibility of them. russia's "normal" missile launched nukes are mostly under the 1 megaton range, and the reason they are is because russia's nukes are inaccurate, the US ones have a lower yield on average but are more accurate meaning their yield ends up where they want.

    It used to be reasonable to not want to go to nuclear war, nothing chicken little about that.

    A torpedo can still strike a coast, and we do not know how effective the weapon would be, till it happens. Maybe it's a nothing burger, maybe a coastal city like London is engulfed in a 1600 ft irridated tsunami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feltima View Post
    I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you saying that RU would prioritize strategic targets in US, or that the US would also nuke Russia as well per article 5?

    If the latter, there's no question about that, but there's no guarantee the US would strike RU before they launch, and they have first strike advantage right now thanks to the hypersonic missiles, we don't have a counter for hypersonic missiles yet.

    https://www.military.com/equipment/w...een-radar.html
    Sigh, the Russian wonderweapons. Yeah, I'm not worried. Sorry. We've seen how some of them have fared in Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    Sigh, the Russian wonderweapons. Yeah, I'm not worried. Sorry. We've seen how some of them have fared in Ukraine.
    You don't have to apologize to me. I hope you're all right, Russia is just a paper tiger, and this is all over soon.

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    If there is one consistent thing about all the wunderwaffe that Russia keeps boasting about, it is that it works far below claims, if it works at all. Just look at the Armarta, the su57, the s400 and everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feltima View Post
    You think Europe would be fine after being hit by tens to hundreds of 50-100+ megaton warheads? A 50-megaton nuke has a blast radius of about 22 miles.

    Yeah, Moscow will be glass, but so will London, Paris, Warsaw, Brussels, and many more.

    Terrifying times we're in when folks think that's worth it. Europe would be economically decimated from this for decades, famine would run rampant, and the consequences of radiation for survival would be terrible.

    Well, that's one way to solve global warming, I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Feltima View Post
    You don't have to apologize to me. I hope you're all right, Russia is just a paper tiger, and this is all over soon.
    For more than a decade I've seen varied Russian posters talk about this or that Russian super weapon which is so far more advanced than anything NATO has. ALL of them were duds so far. Most never became operational, those that did definitely did not match "expectations" (propaganda). The latest nuclear rumor was about those Poseidon torpedos which if they ever work were not even supposed to be operational for several more years yet suddenly they have many of them ready to fire.

    Without the ability to blackmail Europe over gas, all that Russia has left is the nuclear threat. So I get you might actually be scared of it but you really should get used to it because most of their propaganda in the coming days will be variations on that theme.

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    Hmf...Russia's nukes are likely more dangerous to Russia.

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    The nuke torpedo is technically a drone and has never even been tested.

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    You guys are still playing into putin and his threats by obsessing over nukes. There's a reason the pro-russia people here wants to keep it as a subject. They are paid to spread fear and end our Ukraine support after all. They do not want to die like everyone else. They want to win, but will take a loss if no other choice. Keep THAT in mind. >.<

    You lot are just playing into what the ones who owns the news agencies obsessing over nukes and russia wants.

    His threats aren't new. The end.

    Here's a good video on what he's trying to make you do:
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    Hey now, gotta give the Russian paid trolls something that they can show to their bosses otherwise they’ll end like poor shackler and sent to the front lines as cannon fodder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    Hey now, gotta give the Russian paid trolls something that they can show to their bosses otherwise they’ll end like poor shackler and sent to the front lines as cannon fodder.
    Seriously, I wonder if he was... O_O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidism View Post
    Seriously, I wonder if he was... O_O
    No he isnt:
    https://twitter.com/shalcker/status/...diUHC7fmQ&s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidism View Post
    Seriously, I wonder if he was... O_O
    Pavel doesn't seem to have been conscripted to the frontlines yet, with him still spending time on Twitter making the same sort of messages he used to on here, although that might just be a matter of time as Russian manpower needs grow more dire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    Not going anywhere near that but I imagine he is having trouble coping with the collapse of the Russian army.

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    The latest hardware being sent to Ukraine includes more High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems


    The US's decision to send more military aid to Ukraine "increases the danger of a direct military clash" between Russia and the West, Moscow has warned.

    Russia's ambassador to the US, Anatoly Antonov, said it was an "immediate threat" to Moscow, describing the US as "a participant of the conflict".

    Earlier, the US announced another $625m (£547m) in military aid to Ukraine.

    Advanced US weaponry has been credited with helping Ukraine build momentum against occupying Russian forces.

    Ukrainian troops have made significant advances in the country's north-east and south in recent weeks.

    The latest US hardware includes another four of the high-precision Himars multiple rocket systems.

    In all, Washington has committed nearly $17bn in military support for Kyiv since Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on 24 February.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    I mean, could be that he's tweeting from the frontlines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    The fuck do we want with third world countries in the EU? Geez... the ideas you guys have sometimes. Israel is the only country that would bring anything to the table.
    Trouble, mostly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Not sure if the unanimity (is that a word? lol) can be continued for much longer. Scholz already made advances to getting rid of it for certain aspects.
    I heartily support the abolition of veto in EU decision-making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Sounds like the northern Kherson front is rapidly collapsing. Must have felt left out from all the other Russian collapses of late. And this time they can't blame it on separatists and other conscript forces - this is where they stuffed most of their best forces.
    But they cannot resupply those forces. The Ukrainians have set up that battlefield nicely - the Russians have a major river behind them and it's regular Himars o'clock on the bridges. What's left of them.

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