1. #24601
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Not really because you are still in the moral judgment.
    No, you can’t claim it isn’t an issue just because they don’t have laws that explicitly ban it when those officials in charge of upholding the laws knowingly and willingly turn a blind or of offenses caused to that group over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    No, you can’t claim it isn’t an issue just because they don’t have laws that explicitly ban it when those officials in charge of upholding the laws knowingly and willingly turn a blind or of offenses caused to that group over it.
    That is what the question was about. Can you get arrested for being gay ? The answer is no. You will however if you promote it (whatever that means). And obviously that is not ok because they will anything to get you into jail. But from a legal standpoint, you won't get arrested for being specifically gay. Can't make simpler than that.

  3. #24603
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    That is what the question was about. Can you get arrested for being gay ? The answer is no. You will however if you promote it (whatever that means). And obviously that is not ok because they will anything to get you into jail. But from a legal standpoint, you won't get arrested for being specifically gay. Can't make simpler than that.
    Until the ruSSian cop looks at you and says by being gay you promote it and off you go to siberia.

  4. #24604
    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    Until the ruSSian cop looks at you and says by being gay you promote it and off you go to siberia.
    Or until the Russian equivalent of the KKK comes, beats you up and potentially kills you only for that RuSSian cop to look at them say "Meh" and just keep going because you were considered subhuman to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    As I understand it the reparations was only one part of it, the other was the dagger-in-back, i.e., that Germany surrendered when it was perceived as being far from losing. That combination is really bad.

    The aftermath of WWII differed in both aspects.

    (Another part was that Germany wasn't allowed to have heavy military equipment; such things are regularly circumvented in various ways.)
    One way of avoiding this if/when Ukraine wins is to not have Russia pay heavy reparations. Another is:
    The MYTH. This dagger in the back is rightfully seen as myth. It was used as a pretense for violence against jews and communists, as the narrative went that seditious jewish elements and communists stabbed the glorious army in the back.

    While it is true it played a major role in the radicalization of german politics, it is important to call it what it is, a myth. The central powers were at their end at the end of 1918. There was no jewish coup.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth

    Important to point out it is an anti-jewish nazi conspiracy theory (not sure if you did not know or just worded in an ambiguous way, but it is important to clarify; after all the procotols of zion come back on a yearly basis, even though they have proven to be fake 100 years ago...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    That is what the question was about. Can you get arrested for being gay ? The answer is no. You will however if you promote it (whatever that means). And obviously that is not ok because they will anything to get you into jail. But from a legal standpoint, you won't get arrested for being specifically gay. Can't make simpler than that.
    Being gay in public will get you arrested, I'm pretty damn sure. Because, you know, they'll consider that "promoting it".

  7. #24607
    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Being gay in public will get you arrested, I'm pretty damn sure. Because, you know, they'll consider that "promoting it".
    Yes, as I said and you'll be arrested for "promoting" it and not for "being gay" legally speaking.

  8. #24608
    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Important to point out it is an anti-jewish nazi conspiracy theory (not sure if you did not know or just worded in an ambiguous way, but it is important to clarify; after all the procotols of zion come back on a yearly basis, even though they have proven to be fake 100 years ago...)
    Of course, I knew that it wasn't real - that's why I wrote that it was 'perceived' in that way. It seems Putin is building a similar myth around the fall of USSR and the Berlin wall.

    However, I hadn't realized that the stab-in-the-back-myth seems to partially have been created as a deliberately attempt of blame-shifting by the German military (already during the surrender).
    Last edited by Forogil; 2022-10-07 at 09:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Yes, as I said and you'll be arrested for "promoting" it and not for "being gay" legally speaking.
    It’s a distinction with zero meaning.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    The war aside, isn't it customary to invite any parties involved to an investigation? I mean when a plane goes down then there's usually the country it went down in, the company and the country the company is based involved, or am I wrong? If not then shouldn't russia or at least Gazprom be involved? (I know the assumption is that russia is the guilty party)
    No its not. An airplane going down usually if shared investigation, is due to either the investigative country lacking the resources ie. a NTSB.
    Also it is somewhat common to ask for expertice from abroad but in terms of the manufacturer like Airbus, Boing. Not the law enforcemts agencies of the country they happen to have their HQ based in.
    Acts of terror crashes are fairly often slightly different if alot of the casualties stem from one or two foreing countries.
    Air plane crashes are pretty niched examples and not at all applicable in the same basket as the Nord Stream sabotage.

    Lets say an American company here in Sweden are suspected of breaking the law, then we dont invite US law enforces as default to participate in the investigation.
    Nor if said foregin company is the the target of a crime.
    Gazprom is a Russian company so Russia has no right to insigth in a Swedish criminal investigation. Obviously Russia can ask of being included but no right to be included.
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  11. #24611
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Yes, as I said and you'll be arrested for "promoting" it and not for "being gay" legally speaking.
    That's about as pointless to point out as "you'll be arrested for using drugs and not for possessing them".

  12. #24612
    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    As I understand it the reparations was only one part of it, the other was the dagger-in-back, i.e., that Germany surrendered when it was perceived as being far from losing. That combination is really bad.

    The aftermath of WWII differed in both aspects.

    (Another part was that Germany wasn't allowed to have heavy military equipment; such things are regularly circumvented in various ways.)
    One way of avoiding this if/when Ukraine wins is to not have Russia pay heavy reparations. Another is:
    That theory is largely based on propaganda and is considered one of the biggest cases of falsified history by actual historians. My point is: True or not, it wouldn't have mattered. Russians boldly claim they are doing war against NATO. We all are well aware it's not true. Doesn't change Russians from probably believing it. You're sitting on the other side of propaganda and it's quite interesting to witness it, innit?

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    I wish people stopped making this silly and demeaning argument. Zelensky is a short guy too.
    Yeah, but he owns his body. Whereas Putin runs around on practically high-heels cos he's a bitch still hiding in the closet. Which brings up a theory of mine, the bigger the homophobia, the gayer the guy. :P
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  13. #24613
    For Putins 70th birthday, Lukashenko gave him...a tractor. Obviously he hasn't been following the memes.

    Interestingly, his 'friend' Xi never sent him a message of congratulations even though 2 days ago he sent one to the president of Tajikistan for his 70th.

    https://twitter.com/TUmarov/status/1...2GYDPlENcHpaFQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    For Putins 70th birthday, Lukashenko gave him...a tractor. Obviously he hasn't been following the memes.

    Interestingly, his 'friend' Xi never sent him a message of congratulations even though 2 days ago he sent one to the president of Tajikistan for his 70th.

    https://twitter.com/TUmarov/status/1...2GYDPlENcHpaFQ
    As I said earlier, if I didn't know any better I'd think it was a not so subtle dig.

  15. #24615
    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    Zelensky is a short guy too.
    Yeah, but he doesn't wear pumps to try to make himself look taller because he's an insecure manlet.

    Being short is fine. Being tall is fine. Love who you are. But we are absolutely going to mock an insecure authoritarian for being a manlet and that has nothing to do with short kings. Short kings like Zelensky are kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    I wish people stopped making this silly and demeaning argument. Zelensky is a short guy too.
    Zelensky is a short guy that does not pretend to be something he is not. Putin on the other hand is a shorty that lies about his own self worth and the perception of Russia as a whole. The only credit we could give Putin is that Russia was a culture built on lies before he even came to power.
    Last edited by Collegeguy; 2022-10-08 at 02:10 AM.

  17. #24617
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post

    Being short is fine.
    whenever i see someones name trending on twitter for something controversial and im bored, i google their height if they are a man. If they are below 6ft i dont bother to learn anymore about it. Short people shouldn't be humored imo.

  18. #24618
    Something, possibly a train, is on fire on the Kerch bridge.

    https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/...C2mPj5F0wXDVsw

    Happy birthday putler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Something, possibly a train, is on fire on the Kerch bridge.

    https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/...C2mPj5F0wXDVsw

    Happy birthday putler.
    What I don't get is why the bridge is still standing. Ukraine has submarines, why don't they just blow it up ?

    Firing at the pillars underwater should cause it to collapse, no?

  20. #24620
    Quote Originally Posted by enigma77 View Post
    What I don't get is why the bridge is still standing. Ukraine has submarines, why don't they just blow it up ?

    Firing at the pillars underwater should cause it to collapse, no?
    https://twitter.com/alphacentauriii/...01334537740288

    Looks like with this post, it has partially collapsed.

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